Originally Posted by marcj

religion is merely a form of governing the people without force.

Originally Posted by Ravage70

Religion doesn't cause wars, money does.

Originally Posted by SinisterCRX

ninja edit?

Also,

Wrong. :1 Just most wars :-* :P

Those types should be strung up by the balls and left to die. They're just playing on the idiocy of people. And hey, it works.

Also I think giving to a church is a good thing you should do, and I personally believe God said 10% so the church would only have enough to live on and not so much as to corrupt them. Mind you, churches were never intended to be as huge as some are

Serious part:

slo, you got it all wrong. Did you know that Judaism doesn't subscribe to the fall of lucifer and the angels?

The story of the revolution started by Lucifer, being thrown out of Heaven, etc was not taken from the old testament. Strange, huh? Regardless they don't even believe that Lucifer is "evil" per se. In Judaism as far as I know (any jews out there, if I'm wrong, correct me) its taught that Lucifer is not an enemy of God, but an ally, and he's supposed to steer people off course from their walk with God to make it stronger or something along those lines?

Also with Genesis there's a lot of information left out. For one thing, you're assuming that cain and abel were the only children of adam and eve at that point. It never explicitly states that they only had those two at that point, but that those two are the only ones being talked about, since if you believe in the story, that is the first murder in history, pretty important. In some accounts adam and eve had dozens of children, its just not in the Bible. Maybe it was considered irrelevant to the story and thrown out? Who knows. Also, with him finding a wife, it never specifies the length of time either. According to the old testament Adam lived to ~930 years, cain would've had plenty of time to find a wife.

And yeah, some incestual bs wouldve had to go on at some point. Kinda creepy.

Originally Posted by slo_crx1

You hit the nail on the head Dan...the story of Lucifer and all that crap I think was told in Revelations. Either way, Judaism doesn't follow anything that deals with the new testament because they don't believe Jesus was the son of God. And do you blame them? Hell, they have found scrolls and other materials that say that Jesus was just a fanatical carpenters son who got his g/f knocked up and they made up a story of some "immaculate conception". From what I understand it was true that Jesus was a descendant of King Solomon and such, but kings by that point were long gone. And if you really want to dive into a whole other bag, check out the story of the priory knights and what they did and who they are to this day. There's a lot bigger and better stories out there than just the Bible, just ask the Mason's...if they decide to tell you about it. ;)

Originally Posted by slo_crx1

Genesis

Originally Posted by marcj

life evolved from hydrogen and carbon polymerizing in the atmosphere, forming into RNA which evolves into DNA