are we all setup to fail from birth???
 

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I like your avatar.

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this thread is a failer but your avatar is a thread saver by itself, so in conclusion its not a bad thread but not a good thread.

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To answer the question, yes.
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your forgetting that the bible was written by a human. have to take it with a grain of salt.

10% of whatever come across the table to the church? ---- that.

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God doesnt exist. Bible is a child story. And our setup gonna failed! :y

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i didnt write that, i found it browsing another forum. just wanted to stir the pot a bit

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This thread ------- sucks. ----, I can't say ----. Jesus will be pissed :-\

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you only said ---- because god made you corrupt ::)

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The only two groups of people who were setup to fail from birth are ------s and hotrex.

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its ok if people have a religion...EVEN THOUGH IT CAUSES ALL WARS....but for people to collect money with it is a shame. plus i have seen too many people that are gung-ho about it, and end up completely crazy!!! i guess im agnostic..searching for something to beleive in...but don't beleive the ---- that is going on now. no way im crazy like tom cruise with the scientology ---- the way he describes it!!


anyways, i was up till 6:00 AM one morning, and this "preacher" was trying to sell jesus bread. "it was made by the same methods and recipe as taught by the bible." if you take a bite, you are "guaranteed to come across a sum of money in the near future."
it gave me a chuckle, so i wrote down the number and called it 1-800-810-6249. dude even sounds like a scumbag. he doesnt ask for $$, but asks for your address. im sure he will rob you or send ---- to you. what an -------

so back on the question, we are all flawed. actually, even if we aren't flawed, someone in your life is there to flaw you whether you want it or not

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Religion is for the weak, people that are extremely religious are either people that look for help when "---- hits the fan" or people that are easy to manipulate and like to lie to themselves.

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god sent the corrupt angel to test adam and eves faith. they failed, and humans have been failing since then, thank god for forgiveness

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Actually the accounts of the book of Genesis are a little screwy, and a little backwards at times. When you put the "timelines" in order, you have God as el numero uno and Lucifer as numero dos. He was like God's right hand man, best friend type deal and he got cocky and tried to overthrow the big honcho. God got pissed, tossed Lucifer and his minions out of heaven and "into a lake of fire", and then decided to create the earth and Adam and Eve. So according to the Bible, God didn't send Lucifer here to test Adam and Eve, he was pretty much free to roam around anywhere he pleased except for heaven with all his demon buddies.

All in all it makes for a semi-ok bedtime story, the part that always bothered me was after Adam and Eve had Cain and Abel and Cain killed Abel it says Cain left the area and moved somewhere else and found a wife. WTF did this other woman come from if Cain and Abel were the only "2" children Adam and Eve had up to this point? :l Either someone botched the story or there's some major incest goin' on there. :X

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sinister is gonna come bustin into this thread any second now

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i think hes too busy bustin loads into your ex ;)

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if your mormon, they want 10% and like 40% of your time. my mom is mormom and she goes to every meeting, between work and churchin she has like 2% free time.

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ninja edit?

Also,

Wrong. :1 Just most wars :-* :P

Those types should be strung up by the balls and left to die. They're just playing on the idiocy of people. And hey, it works.

Also I think giving to a church is a good thing you should do, and I personally believe God said 10% so the church would only have enough to live on and not so much as to corrupt them. Mind you, churches were never intended to be as huge as some are

Serious part:

slo, you got it all wrong. Did you know that Judaism doesn't subscribe to the fall of lucifer and the angels?

The story of the revolution started by Lucifer, being thrown out of Heaven, etc was not taken from the old testament. Strange, huh? Regardless they don't even believe that Lucifer is "evil" per se. In Judaism as far as I know (any jews out there, if I'm wrong, correct me) its taught that Lucifer is not an enemy of God, but an ally, and he's supposed to steer people off course from their walk with God to make it stronger or something along those lines?

Also with Genesis there's a lot of information left out. For one thing, you're assuming that cain and abel were the only children of adam and eve at that point. It never explicitly states that they only had those two at that point, but that those two are the only ones being talked about, since if you believe in the story, that is the first murder in history, pretty important. In some accounts adam and eve had dozens of children, its just not in the Bible. Maybe it was considered irrelevant to the story and thrown out? Who knows. Also, with him finding a wife, it never specifies the length of time either. According to the old testament Adam lived to ~930 years, cain would've had plenty of time to find a wife.

And yeah, some incestual bs wouldve had to go on at some point. Kinda creepy.

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wrong, she's now apparently pregnant to a half negro/arab style deal, kinda like you.

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life evolved from hydrogen and carbon polymerizing in the atmosphere, forming into RNA which evolves into DNA
anyone who believes in creation is mislead or uneducated.

religion is merely a form of governing the people without force.

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winner

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I've been trying to figure out whats that stuff on the stomach of the chick in your avator

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Religion doesn't cause wars, money does.

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Not money, just greed in general.

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You hit the nail on the head Dan...the story of Lucifer and all that crap I think was told in Revelations. Either way, Judaism doesn't follow anything that deals with the new testament because they don't believe Jesus was the son of God. And do you blame them? Hell, they have found scrolls and other materials that say that Jesus was just a fanatical carpenters son who got his g/f knocked up and they made up a story of some "immaculate conception". From what I understand it was true that Jesus was a descendant of King Solomon and such, but kings by that point were long gone. And if you really want to dive into a whole other bag, check out the story of the priory knights and what they did and who they are to this day. There's a lot bigger and better stories out there than just the Bible, just ask the Mason's...if they decide to tell you about it. ;)

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Uhh no duh that they don't follow the new testament. You restated the story of the fall of lucifer and the angels who joined forces with him as coming from genesis when it didnt ;)

Are you stupid? Joseph and Mary had Jesus, who was the "immaculate birth". Not Jesus' supposed child you speak of :S

The masons are loonie bins. Are you one of them?

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Genesis?..no the one after that ..Super nintendo :6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q57ZjWRarM8&

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who do you even care? if you hate religion don't talk about it

the real religion you should be scared of is government, the religion of liberals. and it has complete power over you, and STEALS your money everyday... it doesn't ask nicely

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got proof?

anyone who believes in big bang/evolution is mislead or uneducated. after all, there is no proof of the origin of life, therefor you're using your faith and maybe a best judgement... pretty stupid

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most people who believe in evolution dont base thier whole life (and afterlife) around it ;)

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they do base their life on it.

and what would they base their afterlife on with the theory of evolution... lol

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find me one person(who doesnt drink a vial of acid daily) who worships amoeba and single cell organisms.
read what you quoted again, i thin kyou misread/micomprehended it

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you need to think deeper.

people do base their life on it.

they rally against religion, call people people who are religious ignorant, etc...
lots of them life their life with a me first, anything goes, free love mentality, because they don't believe in anyone higher than themselves

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so these peope are afraid of pissing off single cell invertabrates so they dont go to amoeba hell??

i see where you are coming from, but i think you are stretching it a bit :-\

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its not a strech really.

i understand your point. and what does it matter to you who other people are afraid to piss off to get to heaven?

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we call those people atheist, the non-agnostic.

but if your like someone like me.. i believe in the story of the creation, also evolution, big bang theory & reincarnation all wraped into one.

basiclly there was all matter, spirit, & energy rolled into one (GOD). one day we said. "hey we are going to do this cool thing. Poof big bang.. then the laws of the universe were created along with everything else we cannot understand for whatever reason" then out of those atoms and such came the cosmos. and the cosmos to planets and systems. and then simple compound atom, then complex molecues, then RNA, then DNA. then BOOM blue prints for life.. then evolution. etc. then advance life. then those advance life forms travel to other stars and such.. to create more life through genetic modification and start creating more life. (basicly they speed up the process)

then those life forms integrate the soul with each other to form a group consciousness. the soul can reincarnate into different vessels per different incarnation. and the point is to move into integration. it moves up and up and up until everything is reintegrated. from matter- soul - time - space. everything will come back.. or what's called movement to singularity.

then we are god all over again. just this time with cool experience of being infinite, separated and reintegrated. i just think we are monards of the whole. i think the energy found in a rock is just a form of energy in a different frequecy and vibration to what every other then is, such as light, sound, movement, tempiture. i think all of it is related to energy. and we are all (including the soul) in the very basic is energy in different alignments. but to end..

God = energy. All that is (the isness) is what it comes down to.. we are just 1 thing.. that's god.

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the constant contradictions in thier religion is what really bothers me, their reliance on science in everyday life but the refusal to use science to prove that thier religous "leader" is real is a fine example

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The rest of that set is so ------- hot :-*