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t3t5 07-02-2006 11:09 PM

want to build a v8 turbo car
 
i am looking for a regal,malibu,cutlass maybe a mustang but i would rather stick to gm. one of those cars in 80s. i want to rebuild the engine and turbo it. any ideas on what kind of car i should get and i would like one that i could just buy a chevy short block and build it up then throw it in there. but i am having a hard time finding one of those cars for a reasonably price.

78NOVA 07-02-2006 11:13 PM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 
get a trans am or camaro. i got a 82 t/a and with a stock 305 it has plenty of balls. build up a 350 to a 383 and a couple snails like the garrent banks twin snail system and you be good to go.

Tom-Guy 07-02-2006 11:27 PM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 
I thought 383's had mild reliability problems (r/s related, rod bearings munched themselves over time) that boost would bring to the fore?

Personally, a mild build cheap turbo V8 with rods and cheap forgings, and the rear two bores properly toleranced is enough to get the average HMTer killed.

drunkinmaster1 07-02-2006 11:48 PM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 
the 305 had shitty head casting that were thin enough to either warp or crack.

buk9tp 07-02-2006 11:49 PM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 
4.3l v6 is where its at ^-^








:P

Tom-Guy 07-02-2006 11:52 PM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 

Originally Posted by buk9tp
4.3l v6 is where its at ^-^

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drunkinmaster1 07-02-2006 11:54 PM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 

Originally Posted by buk9tp
4.3l v6 is where its at ^-^








:P

the biggest problem with that is they put it in that peice of ---- blazer and s-10

Tom-Guy 07-02-2006 11:56 PM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 
Lets not forget the Astro...

HondaTuner 07-02-2006 11:58 PM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 
350's are always a good bet. I've seen too many supercharged-to-hell-and-back built 350's in old cars around these parts to think of.

What JD said about the 383's sounds familiar, but i'm not very familiar with those engines much.

Avoid 305's if you can.

drunkinmaster1 07-02-2006 11:58 PM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 
i thought astros had an inline six

buk9tp 07-02-2006 11:59 PM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
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LennyJ 07-03-2006 12:09 AM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 
I'm in the process of the same build. I found my 86 Regal for $550. I'm in Florida and it was an original FL car so no rust. You just have to wait out the good deals.

As for the 383, I'd say just stay with the 350 or 355 if it's in need of an overbore. The stroker motors are great setups for nitrous or all motor but dropping the compression and running a mild cam to make use of the turbo setup is defeating the purpose of building a stroker.

Any of the 4 bolt main sbc's will do the trick. Even finding a 2 bolt and then having the machine shop drill and tap for 4 bolt caps from Milodon or another company will work.

And with the 305's, if you have one, use it. There are plenty of single turbo 305's running around to show there is nothing wrong with them. The heads flow worth ---- stock, but with a little porting, they'll do the trick just fine. A lot of people ---- on them because they can't make the same hp as a 350 for the same price. I have one in the garage destined for the shop truck once I can find a tranny. Just have to make use of what you can find.


Tom-Guy 07-03-2006 12:11 AM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 
Astros got 2.5's and 2.8's and 4.3's just like the Homo10's.

And Sy/Ty's have drivetrains of glass, that make DSMs look bulletproof. You think bandwagoning on HT is assinine? Go hang out on a Sy/Ty forum for twenty seconds, you'll puke. Apparently Sy/Ty owners are where ITR owners come from... only the ITR owners aren't all old and conservative yet. :1

buk9tp 07-03-2006 12:16 AM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 
no idea what u just said :1

Tom-Guy 07-03-2006 12:19 AM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 

Originally Posted by buk9tp
no idea what u just said :1

You have no idea about anything having to do with cars. :1

I think you need to spend some time getting your hands dirty, working on + learning about cars. I'm going to go ask Jeff if we can't make your mentioning of S10's or 4.3 liter V6 grounds for 3 day bans, thereby creating goodly sized chunks of free time in which you can actually learn about cars.

drunkinmaster1 07-03-2006 12:20 AM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 
rofl

HondaTuner 07-03-2006 12:21 AM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 
I thought s10's got 2.2's as well?

con 07-03-2006 12:22 AM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Astros got 2.5's and 2.8's and 4.3's just like the Homo10's.

And Sy/Ty's have drivetrains of glass, that make DSMs look bulletproof. You think bandwagoning on HT is assinine? Go hang out on a Sy/Ty forum for twenty seconds, you'll puke. Apparently Sy/Ty owners are where ITR owners come from... only the ITR owners aren't all old and conservative yet. :1

astros have 2.5's and 2.8's ??? got any proof?

drunkinmaster1 07-03-2006 12:25 AM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 
who gives a ----

Tom-Guy 07-03-2006 12:26 AM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 

Originally Posted by highroller54
astros have 2.5's and 2.8's ??? got any proof?

I have eGay open in another browser window... better than Google, I tell you!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=7982754845

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/83-87...QQcmdZViewItem

I spent a number of years as a wrench when those piles of ---- still roamed the earth in large numbers. There is little I loathe more than a GM 2.8 V6 except for the GM DOHC 3.4 miscegenation based off the pushrod 2.8... although bukkake is taking 4.3's to that level with me.

drunkinmaster1 07-03-2006 12:27 AM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 
http://www.bottledbeer.co.uk/photos/mgd.jpg
now isnt that more interesting

con 07-03-2006 12:27 AM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 

Originally Posted by drunkinmaster1
who gives a ----

aparantly I do since I work on them all the time and never seen one, not saying they were never made I had a 88ish 2.5 tech tbi 4cyl 4x4 s10 in the other day and I didn't think they were ever made :-X

HondaTuner 07-03-2006 12:28 AM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 
I know 1985-1990 they had 2.5's or 4.3's as an option.

con 07-03-2006 12:30 AM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
I have eGay open in another browser window... better than Google, I tell you!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=7982754845

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/83-87...QQcmdZViewItem

I spent a number of years as a wrench when those piles of ---- still roamed the earth in large numbers. There is little I loathe more than a GM 2.8 V6 except for the GM DOHC 3.4 miscegenation based off the pushrod 2.8... although bukkake is taking 4.3's to that level with me.

wow, I really dont think we got those in Canada never saw one with anything but a 4.3 and I've been working on those bastards for 15 years :P

con 07-03-2006 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by drunkinmaster1
who gives a ----

if you ever get to the point were your done learning its time for you to kill yourself because you just become ignorent. ;) :1

Tom-Guy 07-03-2006 12:34 AM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 

Originally Posted by highroller54
aparantly I do since I work on them all the time and never seen one,

The 2.8's have all fallen apart. Think of the 3.1, replete with intake gasket problems, only add in serious bottom end defects... to the point that most mechanics weren't aware of the 2.8's intake gasket problems because the engine would sling a rod first.


Originally Posted by highroller54
not saying they were never made I had a 88ish 2.5 tech tbi 4cyl 4x4 s10 in the other day and I didn't think they were ever made :-X

Not many of those were ever sold; the 2.5 iron Duke could barely move that heavy 4X4 drivetrain. I liked the 2.5 fine for what it was - an inexpensive reasonably reliable beater engine. As soon as you tried to make them work hard they died... I knew a guy withone in a CJ8, he kept trying to build them and kept breaking cranks at the 150 whp level. Awesome!

buk9tp 07-03-2006 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
You have no idea about anything having to do with cars. :1

I think you need to spend some time getting your hands dirty, working on + learning about cars. I'm going to go ask Jeff if we can't make your mentioning of S10's or 4.3 liter V6 grounds for 3 day bans, thereby creating goodly sized chunks of free time in which you can actually learn about cars.

lol thats why i breathed life into a POS s10 that hasnt been turned on in 15 ------- years and changed all the wiring that was aten out by rats? and got the thing running like the day it drove off the lot (cant say it looks like the day it drove off the lot though :P)

and i just got into a car accident and bent the rack and pinion fucked the axle. and outer tie rod and bent the frame. fixed it all in 2 days in my own ------- back yard... swapped out the axle.. changed the rack and pinion (which is a pain in the ass on the w bodys cause u gotta drop the kframe.) then used some crude pulling tools to straiten out my frame.. and when all was said and done it doesnt even need an alignment!

not to mention i had a POS 87 civic wagon that i barely kept running before i gave up on her and junked it :1

and the other two s10's i own..

dont forget the body work expierience i have, can u work a frame machine? k thnx.

everyone tries to learn what they can. im in the process of trading my monte for a cx hatch and 2000 bucks. then ill get gooing on a turbo project to shut everyone up :1

jmhalder 07-03-2006 02:44 AM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 
i know im a noob, at least on this board... s10's got a bunch of ----, the 4.3l V6, the 2.8l V6, and some other I4 ----... but i was only aware astro's/safari's got the 4.3l... not that it matters, unless your some beaner trying to boost your molester-mobile... in that case, more power to ya

AgentMurdoc 07-03-2006 03:24 AM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 
omg... you guys are actually responding to tuname? He's not gonna buy a v8. His old nissan/datsun 300zx is the closest thing to a v8 he will ever buy.

Tom-Guy 07-03-2006 09:58 AM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 
tuname? Where? Isn't that guy banned?

con 07-03-2006 10:08 AM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
The 2.8's have all fallen apart. Think of the 3.1, replete with intake gasket problems, only add in serious bottom end defects... to the point that most mechanics weren't aware of the 2.8's intake gasket problems because the engine would sling a rod first.

Ive worked on plenty of 2.5,2.8's carbed and fuelie, 3.1's just not in ------- vans ;)



if this really is tuname how is your lincoln-millermatic working for you now a days?

http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/3...yton0057nv.jpg



FAGGOT

crxmatt2 07-03-2006 10:16 AM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 
my original 305 in my truck has 324,800 miles.. i'd say that's pretty reliable. The only difference in a 305 and 350 is the heads... buy a cheap 305, put 350 heads on it and turbo it all to hell.

con 07-03-2006 10:21 AM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 

Originally Posted by crxmatt2
my original 305 in my truck has 324,800 miles.. i'd say that's pretty reliable. The only difference in a 305 and 350 is the heads... buy a cheap 305, put 350 heads on it and turbo it all to hell.

Your a ------- idiot, I think you better go brush up on your sbc's ::)

Tom-Guy 07-03-2006 10:31 AM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 
Doesn't that leave you with valve clearance problems?

LennyJ 07-03-2006 11:22 AM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 

Originally Posted by crxmatt2
my original 305 in my truck has 324,800 miles.. i'd say that's pretty reliable. The only difference in a 305 and 350 is the heads... buy a cheap 305, put 350 heads on it and turbo it all to hell.

Why would you make yourself look stupid by saying something like that? :3


Damn, google it or something before just posting something that dumb.

thiggyperformance 07-03-2006 05:47 PM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 
you sir are a moron :1 :1 :1 :1 :1 :1

Originally Posted by crxmatt2
my original 305 in my truck has 324,800 miles.. i'd say that's pretty reliable. The only difference in a 305 and 350 is the heads... buy a cheap 305, put 350 heads on it and turbo it all to hell.


if i was doing a turbo V8(sbc) i would do a destroked 400. but it depends on your usage of the vehicle and budget!!

buk9tp 07-03-2006 05:48 PM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
tuname? Where? Isn't that guy banned?

he got another chance :1

HondaTuner 07-03-2006 06:04 PM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 
Although 350 heads would work nice on a 305... a 305 is defintely a ton different than a 350.

Think of it as a d15b2 block (305) with a d16z6 head (350)... definitely a huge improvement with the new head. The blocks aren't even close (350 > 305 hands down) but the better head on the crappy block helps out a good bit.

thiggyperformance 07-03-2006 06:19 PM

Re: want to build a v8 turbo car
 

Originally Posted by SinisterCRX
Although 350 heads would work nice on a 305... a 305 is defintely a ton different than a 350.

Think of it as a d15b2 block (305) with a d16z6 head (350)... definitely a huge improvement with the new head. The blocks aren't even close (350 > 305 hands down) but the better head on the crappy block helps out a good bit.

well yea but, the major difference is the bore size and they all (305) have 2bolt mains (from the factory)
305 bore 3.736"
350 bore 4.001"
305=5.0L and 350=5.7L


thiggyperformance 07-03-2006 06:28 PM

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one more thing on the 305 heads they have very small combustion chambers (=high compression) and the 350 heads are a lot larger.


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