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LilWayne 02-15-2009 07:31 PM

Re: Valentines? Fuck dat. I'll spend the weekend with the Shuttle.
 
Post some fucken updated pics of what your doing on this drunken sunday!

rosario4124 02-15-2009 08:34 PM

Re: Valentines? Fuck dat. I'll spend the weekend with the Shuttle.
 
sweet mani

Guy-Fast 02-15-2009 08:38 PM

Re: Valentines? Fuck dat. I'll spend the weekend with the Shuttle.
 
You guys have tracks up there?

Tom-Guy 02-15-2009 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by turbob16hatch
i have never had a problem with creep on this manifold. but like steve said a wastegate coming off the front looks retarded.

I could care less if it's coming off the front or the side. Having to turn 90 or more degrees severely hurts exhaust flow.


Originally Posted by turbob16hatch
plus steve isn't trying to run a gt40r at 10 lbs..... ::)

Cool, then why do non-ideal wastegate exits cause creep with commonplace turbos? Drag manifold, perfect example.

Smith-02 02-15-2009 08:51 PM

Re: Valentines? Fuck dat. I'll spend the weekend with the Shuttle.
 
you gonna use the stealth shuttle for usps deliveries in bumfuck usa or what? dirty seconds/thirds from mailbox to mailbox lets everyone know whats up

turbob16hatch 02-15-2009 09:03 PM

Re: Valentines? Fuck dat. I'll spend the weekend with the Shuttle.
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
I could care less if it's coming off the front or the side. Having to turn 90 or more degrees severely hurts exhaust flow.

Cool, then why do non-ideal wastegate exits cause creep with commonplace turbos? Drag manifold, perfect example.

because people try and run 10 lbs on a large turbo, and try and use a relitivly small "valve" to bypass a huge amount of exhaust.

if i remembet correctly the drag pulls exhaust from just one cyl. correct?


Tom-Guy 02-15-2009 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by turbob16hatch
because people try and run 10 lbs on a large turbo, and try and use a relitivly small "valve" to bypass a huge amount of exhaust.

What huge amount of exhaust? It's just 10 pounds. Just because the turbo is capable of insane amounts of power doesn't mean it makes much more than a run of the mill T3/T04E at that pressure. There's a little less pressure across the larger turbo's turbine, so if the exhaust can't naturally flow out the wastegate it goes across the turbine instead creating boost creep. If it can flow out the wastegate exit easily, there is no exhaust creep.



Originally Posted by turbob16hatch
if i remembet correctly the drag pulls exhaust from just one cyl. correct?

No, it pulls from all four, but three of the cylinders are expected to make sudden sharp changes in flow direction when the wastegate opens. Shear/tumble happens, and the whole works goes to hell in a hand basket. The idea is to let the exhaust's momentum do all the work for you, and put the wastegate exit at a shallower divergence.

turbob16hatch 02-15-2009 11:56 PM

Re: Valentines? Fuck dat. I'll spend the weekend with the Shuttle.
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
What huge amount of exhaust? It's just 10 pounds. Just because the turbo is capable of insane amounts of power doesn't mean it makes much more than a run of the mill T3/T04E at that pressure. There's a little less pressure across the larger turbo's turbine, so if the exhaust can't naturally flow out the wastegate it goes across the turbine instead creating boost creep. If it can flow out the wastegate exit easily, there is no exhaust creep.

Ok...... this is stupid. this is from my experience, when running a larger turbo (gt40) at very little boost pressure it is needed to make the wastegate a priority, as it is hard to slow down the turbo to stop it from spiking/creeping. correct?

now with this setup he is running "high" boost pressures ALL the time so wastegate priority is not of importance. also when asked to make a certain style manifold that is "very" popular that will be used the way he is going to use it. why would i stop and suggest to him i make a custom one off manifold that has "boost" control as priority as to run very low boost? explain?


Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
No, it pulls from all four, but three of the cylinders are expected to make sudden sharp changes in flow direction when the wastegate opens. Shear/tumble happens, and the whole works goes to hell in a hand basket. The idea is to let the exhaust's momentum do all the work for you, and put the wastegate exit at a shallower divergence.

um NO, it clearly pulls from 1 cyl. please explain to me how you think exhaust from the other cyl. flows against cyl. 1 up it's runner and out the wastegate?
http://www.dragturbokits.com/index.html

to finish this off, JD post up your manifolds that you have designed. i would like to see your work on fixing "boost creep"...... :l

if you havn't designed and built manifolds please stfu

i'm all about having a discusion about manifold designs, but you don't even have your facts straight on the drag manifold. then you start talking about a gt40 on a k series like that has anything to do with a 60-1 on a b18 ::)

BigBird 02-16-2009 12:01 AM

Re: Valentines? Fuck dat. I'll spend the weekend with the Shuttle.
 
Damn it's been so long since a shuttle update I can't remember if this block is sleeved or not?

turbohf 02-16-2009 12:06 AM

Re: Valentines? Fuck dat. I'll spend the weekend with the Shuttle.
 

Originally Posted by rudebwoy
thats what I am talking about its about someone else on here build a nice project. HMT does not mean ghetto.

thank you..... steve, she is lookin good...still loving the Carbon Bronze paint too...


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