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turbo4age 01-04-2007 03:42 PM

turbo4age 5.5psi no tune vs. pretty solid 20v 4age
 
i threw my turbo on the old engine out of the car we swapped the 20v into and went for a run. the 20v car (camera car) literally just got his swap running good and right. my car was running like complete ass and i couldnt floor it or it would just bog down and start shooting flames and ---- like i had an anti lag.

heres the video
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...h_100_0932.jpg

heres another one i did when it was running right on my old engine... its long and boring at the beginning but its what you folks call a "ripper" so i figure id post it up. the pull is near the end of the video and is of me doing a ~15 to 85mph pull through 2nd and third. boost was about 7psi.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...h_DSCN0254.jpg

93z6t 01-04-2007 04:30 PM

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not bad video nice car

Ogubudiah 01-04-2007 04:48 PM

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good job speeding in your neighborhood

Smith-02 01-04-2007 04:49 PM

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id hit it

turbo4age 01-04-2007 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ogubudiah
good job speeding in your neighborhood

that wasnt in my neighborhood. if you want to make me feel bad for what i did then PM me and let it all out.

ill have some more highway and auto-x/race track/(gasp) drift videos in the upcoming weeks and months.

salesmonkey 01-04-2007 05:13 PM

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is it just me that cant even see a link or a clickable to the video?

turbo4age 01-04-2007 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by salesmonkey
is it just me that cant even see a link or a clickable to the video?

just click on the picture... at least thats how it works for me. is it not letting you?

J-SMITH69 01-04-2007 05:37 PM

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uh impressive? :l

turbo4age 01-04-2007 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
uh impressive? :l

im not sure... 5.5 psi at less than full throttle doesnt exactly make a fast car. but its one of the only videos i have of my car and i felt compelled to post here. maybe im a masochist and im just waiting for people to start posting horrible things about the car and how slow it is...

i guess the point is to just post something up thats not a honda

koreanwilcox 01-04-2007 05:53 PM

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Looks like a fun car.

I wish I had RWD, someday I will kick the Civic habit and do something RWD and turbo. mmmm...

turbo4age 01-04-2007 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ej1 wilcox
Looks like a fun car.

I wish I had RWD, someday I will kick the Civic habit and do something RWD and turbo. mmmm...

thats funny, because my plan is to build a coupe since ive had 2 gts hatches and then when thats complete... i was thinking eg hatch. the car and everthing is fun... but its a pain in the ass sometimes. when you start making any sort of power you have every component in the rear diff to worry about, then the driveshaft and transmission. ive never owned a fwd car before, but i assume its going to be a ---- ton easier to work on. i know this car inside and out and have borderline mastered it mechanically speaking... but its time form something else. im leaning towards an eg or a 4th gen celica all-trac.

Smith-02 01-04-2007 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by turbo4age
thats funny, because my plan is to build a coupe since ive had 2 gts hatches and then when thats complete... i was thinking eg hatch. the car and everthing is fun... but its a pain in the ass sometimes. when you start making any sort of power you have every component in the rear diff to worry about, then the driveshaft and transmission. ive never owned a fwd car before, but i assume its going to be a ---- ton easier to work on. i know this car inside and out and have borderline mastered it mechanically speaking... but its time form something else. im leaning towards an eg or a 4th gen celica all-trac.


get a 2wd yoda pickup and run 20lbs.

turbo4age 01-04-2007 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by c0mpl3x

get a 2wd yoda pickup and run 20lbs.

ive got an 86 4x4 22r 5speed, irs front though, for my daily/ work beater... im a toyota guy i guess. i was thinking about a truck, but i want to try a different drivetrain in a car.

Smith-02 01-04-2007 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by turbo4age
ive got an 86 4x4 22r 5speed, irs front though, for my daily/ work beater... im a toyota guy i guess. i was thinking about a truck, but i want to try a different drivetrain in a car.

3rz 5spd.

ososlohatch 01-04-2007 07:27 PM

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turbo pwns .. nice car

J-SMITH69 01-04-2007 07:55 PM

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quote author=turbo4age link=topic=73579.msg868886#msg868886 date=1167954113]
im not sure... 5.5 psi at less than full throttle doesnt exactly make a fast car. but its one of the only videos i have of my car and i felt compelled to post here. maybe im a masochist and im just waiting for people to start posting horrible things about the car and how slow it is...

i guess the point is to just post something up thats not a honda
[/quote]

sounds like full throttle to me.

turbo4age 01-04-2007 08:06 PM

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sounds like full throttle to me.


i was running an open dp... idle sounds like full throttle. the second video is full throttle. but the first one, the one at night, i couldnt floor it or it would run like complete ass, bucking, hopping, and backfiring. im pretty sure my fuel pump took a dump on me and when i floored it the pump couldnt keep up... i drove it just now and it wasnt worth a ----. it would barely rev over 1000rpm and when it did it wouldnt run right.

anyone have a cheap 255lph? haha

J-SMITH69 01-04-2007 08:14 PM

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i only watched the 2nd video

why do people claim they weren't flooring it in their weak videos. just admit its weak and try harder next time

turbo4age 01-04-2007 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
i only watched the 2nd video

why do people claim they weren't flooring it in their weak videos. just admit its weak and try harder next time

well if you watched both instead of being an ignorant ------- you would make a clear deliniation between when the car is being floored and isnt being floored. the second video the car is actually accelerating... the first one i give it enough throttle to pull on the guy and not destroy my car. call bs all you want, but if you were in my passenger seat youd being singing a different song.

J-SMITH69 01-04-2007 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by turbo4age
well if you watched both instead of being an ignorant ------- you would make a clear deliniation between when the car is being floored and isnt being floored. the second video the car is actually accelerating... the first one i give it enough throttle to pull on the guy and not destroy my car. call bs all you want, but if you were in my passenger seat youd being singing a different song.

yea you're right, id be singing "oooooooooo fifteen second quarter miles"

whats the difference between you running 5.5psi at 75% or 100% throttle, except that your timing will be very advanced at part throttle...

your car is ugly and slow and you're the ignorant ------- for polluting this site with your slow ugly car

Smith-02 01-04-2007 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
yea you're right, id be singing "oooooooooo fifteen second quarter miles"

whats the difference between you running 5.5psi at 75% or 100% throttle, except that your timing will be very advanced at part throttle...

your car is ugly and slow and you're the ignorant ------- for polluting this site with your slow ugly car

i dont see you making any videos :S

J-SMITH69 01-04-2007 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by c0mpl3x
i dont see you making any videos :S

::)

i have a lot of videos

turbo4age 01-04-2007 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
yea you're right, id be singing "oooooooooo fifteen second quarter miles"

whats the difference between you running 5.5psi at 75% or 100% throttle, except that your timing will be very advanced at part throttle...

your car is ugly and slow and you're the ignorant ------- for polluting this site with your slow ugly car

i may have started with the name calling... my bad. i used the word ignorant in its true context, since you made a comment even though you lacked knowledge on the situation (you didnt watch both videos). but youre ignorant, so i think you took my use of the word ignorant out of context. but im not going to fight with you man. nor do i have any reason to bring my slow ugly car to this site and lie about it. the difference is that running off the gate i make 7psi... at part throttle on that run the most i saw was just over 5. i have a time slip that says i run a 14.8 @ 95 at only 6psi as well. but thats not fast enough for you so, please, talk ---- on it. i got into it just enough to pull on the guy and just enough so it ran decently.

not to mention it seems like most of the response from members here about my slow ugly car are positive, and you seem to be the odd man out.

i just posted a video to show a comparison between a lightly boosted gts and a 20v swapped gts... and to mix it up in the mass of hondas on the site.

thanks,

Tom-Guy 01-04-2007 10:06 PM

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I see you've met Johnny. My condolences.

turbo4age 01-04-2007 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
I see you've met Johnny. My condolences.

well he is an admin... so i guess im in for it for calling him an ignorant ------- huh? even though ive been a member here for over 3 years...

J-SMITH69 01-04-2007 10:29 PM

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so a swapped 20v sweet gts runs slower than 14.8?

14.8 might as well be 15 seconds so i stand by my song

turbo4age 01-04-2007 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
so a swapped 20v sweet gts runs slower than 14.8?

14.8 might as well be 15 seconds so i stand by my song

my gts with the stock engine ran 16.8... they are very slow. its rare to see them in the mid 16s on a stock engine. 14.8 or 16.8 i dont really care, its not a drag car and my trap is good for low 14s with a decent launch. not to mention that was the same setup that made 150rwhp and 156rwtq on a mustang dyno at ~6psi. when i get my gze pistons im putting on itbs and running megasquirt... i figure 15psi on that setup will see about 250rwhp and similar torque. and just for you... ive nicknamed the car "ugly" since the day i bought this one over a year ago. it had a shitty rattle can primer paint job and stock bumpers.

thanks for reading my thread,

TTC 01-04-2007 10:47 PM

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My 4agte will decimate all. Ran 12 psi last year, but the oil pump keiled it. 18psi this year, with cams, adj cam gears ect ect.

turbo4age 01-04-2007 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TTC
My 4agte will decimate all. Ran 12 psi last year, but the oil pump keiled it. 18psi this year, with cams, adj cam gears ect ect.

whats your setup? pictures? video?

id like to compare and see if there is a better way to go about all this.

stillnoturbo 01-04-2007 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by turbo4age
thats funny, because my plan is to build a coupe since ive had 2 gts hatches and then when thats complete... i was thinking eg hatch. the car and everthing is fun... but its a pain in the ass sometimes. when you start making any sort of power you have every component in the rear diff to worry about, then the driveshaft and transmission. ive never owned a fwd car before, but i assume its going to be a ---- ton easier to work on. i know this car inside and out and have borderline mastered it mechanically speaking... but its time form something else. im leaning towards an eg or a 4th gen celica all-trac.

I just sold my 86 and don't miss it really. After I installed a TRD 2way and some simple boltons and did the susp. I didn't like the way it felt. Now I'm AWD but then I got the DSM name to worry about. Blown radiator first week I owned it FTW! lol. It was patched up so with the temps really low and then with it patched with some kind of epoxy and some highway rippers I'm not too surprised.
I almost had a 20v silvertop in my hatch but then sold the whole setup(longblock, harness, ecu...etc.) and then just sold the car. Now it's just the Galant VR4 and the Datsun with some T4 lovin'.

turbo4age 01-04-2007 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by stillnoturbo
I just sold my 86 and don't miss it really. After I installed a TRD 2way and some simple boltons and did the susp. I didn't like the way it felt. Now I'm AWD but then I got the DSM name to worry about. Blown radiator first week I owned it FTW! lol. It was patched up so with the temps really low and then with it patched with some kind of epoxy and some highway rippers I'm not too surprised.
I almost had a 20v silvertop in my hatch but then sold the whole setup(longblock, harness, ecu...etc.) and then just sold the car. Now it's just the Galant VR4 and the Datsun with some T4 lovin'.

very nice... i had an NA '83 280zx
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ge/IMG_059.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ge/IMG_016.jpg

im leaning towards an all trac for my next project. i had a blast driving my friend tylers gsx and evo... so me thinks awd is the way to go. but not until i build this bottom end and put the itbs on.

TTC 01-04-2007 11:33 PM

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I have a thread on dorikaze.com if u want to check it out, theres a few of us boosted 4age's there.

evo_lucian 01-05-2007 07:28 AM

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Your car would run 5x better if you had some real fuel management or at least a fmu until you get the megasquirt . The afm click you spoke about is ghetto and is the weakest link in your set up. fmu and 4agze injectors would be the route i would go if i were you. I too am planning on building a turbo 4age 16v come summer time and thats what im gonna run for fuel management until i can afford megasquirt. Oh and contrary to johnny, your car is the ----. Only a toyota guy can love the looks of the hatch.

assh0l3 01-05-2007 08:22 AM

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Looks good to me, but I'm a toyota guy too.

drunkinmaster1 01-05-2007 08:32 AM

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id like to see a money shot of the engine bay. specs of the turbo and settup. get some better videos, those suck. get some 1 to 5th rippers.

stillnoturbo 01-05-2007 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by turbo4age
sounds like full throttle to Hotrex.


turbo4age 01-05-2007 10:25 AM

Re: turbo4age 5.5psi no tune vs. pretty solid 20v 4age
 

Originally Posted by drunkinmaster1
id like to see a money shot of the engine bay. specs of the turbo and settup. get some better videos, those suck. get some 1 to 5th rippers.

heres some assorted pictures of the setup...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...e/DSCN0159.jpg
yes i know the intercooler is crooked, i need to adjust my charge piping
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...e/100_0875.jpg
and now the engine...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...e/100_0914.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...e/100_0913.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...e/100_0912.jpg
yeah its a messhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...e/100_0930.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...e/100_0928.jpg

my setup is a bonestock largeport 4age with the ssauto manifold, 365cc 4agze injectors, barry grant 1to1 fpr (that was my mistake, im getting a 12to1 asap), blasst t3 .48/.60 (almost perfect turbo for the price and this setup. i highly recommend them), and then a ---- ton done elsewhere in the car that doesnt have to do with the engine...


Originally Posted by evo_lucian
Your car would run 5x better if you had some real fuel management or at least a fmu until you get the megasquirt . The afm click you spoke about is ghetto and is the weakest link in your set up. fmu and 4agze injectors would be the route i would go if i were you. I too am planning on building a turbo 4age 16v come summer time and thats what im gonna run for fuel management until i can afford megasquirt. Oh and contrary to johnny, your car is the ----. Only a toyota guy can love the looks of the hatch.

for sure... all this i know. but i just got impatient and have the resources and time at the moment to just drive and try to tune it through trial and error. i gotta fix the fuel pump, it took a ---- on me, and then order my pistons and im ready to go. i may try to hook up the megasquirt soon... i have to go find a few sensors for the edis though. and thanks for the complements. more, better, videos coming soon!

TTC 01-05-2007 11:34 AM

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http://www.pitobread.com/media2/roll...ture%20001.jpg
http://www.pitobread.com/media2/roll...ture%20002.jpg
http://www.pitobread.com/media2/roll...ture%20006.jpg

This is mine, 14b ported exhaust and wastegate.
3" dp into 2" exhaust.
2.5" charge piping
440cc injectors
megasquirt 3.0 running edis
custom Ic
my HMT log mani
1g dsm bov, that i cracked in half and jbwelded bck goether, now it whistles and its super ---- ------- loud.
Smallport 4age head, bluetop bumpsticks , blew up after the oil pump decided it wanted to goto the strippers rather than pump my oil

New setup: Not by choice lol but it was cheap

aw11 largeport (boooo!)

kent camgears, 256intake/264 exhaust cam plus all the other craps


Tom-Guy 01-05-2007 12:59 PM

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It's obvious that you're a good dude; welcome to HMT. Don't let the idiots, like Johnny, drive you off.

RENR 01-05-2007 01:40 PM

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nice setup. I like the exhaust tone from the video. those cars look sick with a nice drop.


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