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I wasnt gonna do this but i just gotta...

on honda-tech this guy is claiming he is running completly stock B16 down to the clutch, with slicks and 10psi and hes running 11.95 -1/4.
ohh yeah, and a fmu for FM. ::)

I simply dont believe him. Beau is running 22psi and pulling the mid 11's...

im not tryin to call out beau, im just tryin to bust this guys balls.

check out the thread. BTW, im junkyard racer on www.honda-tech.com

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=988435

am I right...?

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ill call B.S. on that. we need proof of a time slip.

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10psi on a fmu? :-\

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no ----. notice in the thread i mention no pictures or video for proof. anyone who is gonna drive to the track, knowing they are gonna run at least 12's usally takes a camera or a video camera right? this guy makes it seem like 12 sec is nothing for him... ::)

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let's do some math, just for fun: stock fuel pressure ~ 42psi fmu ~10psi per 1psi boost. so @ 10psi boost the fuel pressure is raised 100psi, total fuel psi= 140psi, that's about 350% of the original, fuel lines are going to start getting tired if you do that on a regular basis, plus what stock pump is capable of sustaining that pressure?

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with just 5 posts, i think we have him busted

keep posting.

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damn Kyle lately i've been notice your really good at math and ----...

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he now has a video of "his car" and i paused it on his launch, and there was 12sec of the vid left. a high 11's could be possible. but a "stock motor" with 10psi
i dont believe.


EDIT
after i re-read it, he says its a 1/8 mile. so here hes running 12 sec in a 1/8 mile @ 9psi

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I'm going to be the black sheep and say I believe him. I've dealt with him before and he is a SUPER cool guy. He sent me a TPS for free just to see if it would help my problems. I can't seee him telling stories like this. :-\

I don't think Beau has had a good run without any problems yet. He has always had something go wrong, which prevented him from running what the car is capable of.

I say it's true.
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Im a cool guy and I lie here and there....
doesnt everyone? its like the time i went fishin and cought 20 huge bluegill in 10min but have none to show for it.

a stock B16 at 10 psi and no fuel management. im still in dis-belief.

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its not impossible

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just the the type of tunning thats stated that makes me not believe him

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Well, airtonics used an FMU around 10psi and his A/F ratio was damn near perfect. :-\

I still say it's very possible and he is not lieing.
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airtonics also has a body kit and his car is automatic gear. I don't think this guy is that cool.

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Posts: -13245


what the hell? How you get to that # boost ???

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he's pulling vacuum on his posts.

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^^^oh ok..

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Oh its definatly possible. All you really need to be is around 260whp in a gutted hatch with a 1.760ft time you can hit 11's. I'm sure he has a good tranny too, not a tall ass a1 like beau ;)

Just because he ran this time doesnt mean its safe either, I bet you throw a wideband on that thing and he'd ---- his pants. FMU and stock injectors, ya thats the ---- right there baby. ::)

Jeff

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Just to give you guys the 411 alot of guys back in mid late 90's ran fmu's. Couple got into the 10's on them. Dave from dh-racing ran 10.40 on 270 injectors, chipped ecu and a fmu on a b16/ w a 50 wet shot I worked on the car so trust me it's all it had. It's believable. Back in the day when rev hard sold kits like crazy there we tons of low 12 sec b16's w/ there kits in eg's hatches at lacr all sporting fmu's.

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well...if Jeff and Boost say its true then i quess its true

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I seen a pig flying the other day! :o :D
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i thought i seen your girlfriend.

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Just thought I would reply and at least put my 2 cents in. This is my car, the same one I have owned and worked on for 2 years. I don't like being told I am full of BS but then again I wouldn't be posting the times if I didn't think they weren't something to be proud of so I can see where the times would be questioned. I have posted plenty of proof, videos, timeslips, and people who have vouched for me. I have posted times, slips, and vids, all through my build of the car from the time I got it bone stock to when the motor first went in, to the time I first turboed the car, up until now. All those posts are under my name on Honda-tech.

I bought the car and put a bone stock 2nd gen B16 in it. Didn't upgrade the clutch or anything, just drove it. It started off running high to mid 14's. Then got it down to low 14's and invested in some drag radials which got me a 13.9 timeslip with only I/H/E. I drove this setup for a year. Right before I decided to go turbo I took the tranny out to fix a noisy input shaft bearing in the tranny. At this time I bought a stock Exeddy/Honda clutch off of a clutch store on Ebay for $160. It is a bone stock B16 OEM Honda clutch. The turbo went on almost exactly a year ago and is the basic DRAG kit. FMU, inline, deltagate. I also had a walbro 255 intank that was already in the car. I ran this setup at first to 12.6's in the 1/4. After dropping the very small exhaust and going up in boost to 8psi it ran low 12's. I then adjusted the slick pressure and went up to 10psi. At the Nopi NDRA race at St.Louis I drove 200 miles to the track, took out the back seat, put on the slicks and ran a 12.0 off the bat. I lowered the pressure in the slicks and in the 1st round of qual. in turbo4 went 11.84 at 112.58 against the ZEX CRX which got me into the field. In the first round the next day I ran another 11.88 agaist a 10 second Eclipse and was eliminated. My times and name are still on the Nopi/NDRA site. Titan was there and saw the run, I was pitted with Clay Sloan which won the last NHRA race in all motor and he saw the run along with his crew.

Me and my brother are partners in a shop here in Evansville, IN. We have the areas only Dynojet dyno and my car has seen many runs on the dyno. The A/F is rich but right on the mark. This complete setup is my daily driver 40 miles round trip per day. It drives to all events and has over 15k miles on it this year alone without one broken part, axle, or one problem.

I have nothing to hide and no reason to lie. My car is the real deal and I would be happy to let anyone check my car over and witness the car make passes. The motor is going to be built this fall and I will be happy to take many pictures of everything as it comes apart for anyone who would still doubt it. Until then, believe what you want it's up to you.

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:-X

too bad Boost doesn't have a girlfriend...would have been better if you said his mom or sister but its ok ;)

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i guess so.

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hahaha.

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is evansville near ball state university. i went to school there. sounds like a sweet setup. my friend brian had a b16 in his hatch running 9psi on street tires and only managed a 13.2 thats a complete stock motor too. so if he at 1psi and got slicks he could run low 12s huh?

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well ---- man. i admit it. you busted me out.

I GOT OWNED

thanks for the inspiration man. ;)

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I was afraid of something like this would happen. I would hate for the people who vouche for you come over here and start ----. Well if its true than its true. Not trying to insult you or anything it was just hard to believe at first thats all.

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that is what he is saying.

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Evansville is in the southern part of the state. Also, no 1psi more would not make that big of a difference. I have slicks, light car, and spend alot of time driving at the track seeing what works best. Seat time will beat any mods you can do to a car. People are too quick to take their new setup out and run bad times and blame it on someone else or call bs on times when they are faster. 250whp + 2190 race weight = 11 second timeslips in formula. Look it up, it's completely possible in theroy and I have proven it at the track with decent driving and a simple setup.

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Nobody will come and hate. I understand why it's hard to believe that's why I made the post to clear it up :)

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welcome to homemadeturbo.com ;)

I dont want to get on your bad side, Im a fellow Hoosier! :-* i just found things a little hard to believe. thats all.

around here, it takes alot to get into the 11's. well, at least a little more than 10psi and slicks anyways.

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ok cool ;)

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I was too late to have said it, but I believed him. I've seen high 12 sec stock internal D-series EG's before. anything can happen w/ a decent amount of power and a gutted car.

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well is car is gutted. only has a drivers seat. he made about 240whp when he was tunning his car at modernspeedlabs in indy. his name is hoggy and he is a member. the b16 is no longer with us, (rings went to ----) but damn i bet if he got slicks he could have been in the 12s

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Eh, thinking a bit farther here its not too off the wall.

I'd say its entirely do-able, those are some pretty good sized slicks. The guy doesn't really seem like he's a bullshitter either.

Dragon - yeah I am having slow moments, I been grinding Jeep bumpers all day and my minds a little fried.

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Did you read the tread at all??? ???

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I ran pretty much that same mph but was a full second slower. Its amazing what slicks willl do :-\



And your fuel management really doesn't matter when it comes to running the times, you'll just gernade that much sooner

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Slicks will lower your trap speeds more than you think. Even with me getting 1.9 60ft's spinning the slicks I was trapping 115mph. Going down to 1.7's dropped the traps and the ET's.

BTW more people blow motors daily trying to do thier own Hondata, or AEM EMS tune without knowing what they are doing. A FMU is very safe under 10psi. Out of boost which I do 99% of the time it's running off my stock P30 ECU program and fuel pressure so it drives like stock. Once in boost the amount of fuel it dumps is more than safe. Granted I could tune it to make more power by taking out some fuel up top with a real management but it's not nessasary at my power levels. You gotta remember, i'm not making huge power here. 250whp on a B16 at 10psi is average and tons of people do this with even less psi. I've put over 15k miles on the motor with the turbo/FMU in a year and the engine is in as good of shape as it was when the turbo went on.