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USS 08-23-2006 10:14 PM

Traction on a budget, radials or slicks?
 
Here's my dilema-

Poor college student, but still budget for my car. I'm finishing everything up with my car, but I'm looking at either getting Lenso wheels/Slicks, trying to mount slicks on steelies, or just getting drag radials for my stock tires.

Hopefully going to make ~275 hp on my LS (b16 tranny) with a GM9. I've got 900lb Skunk2 drag coilovers and a J-K tuning traction bar. I've also got about ~300 bucks to spend.

I found a used pair of lenso's with MT 24.5" slicks for 400 bucks. They've got a few passes on them, but they are in pretty good condition. I've also priced BFG drag radials, and that'll put me at about 270, or 240 if I go with Nittos. Last option would be to find a steelie that I could mount a set of slicks onto. Are there any 13" steelies that I could even fit slicks on? I'm not sure if this is commonly done. I suppose I could dish out the 40 bucks and get custom made steelies, but that's even more hassle. Thanks guys.

Colin

MikeJ-2009 08-23-2006 10:19 PM

Re: Traction on a budget, radials or slicks?
 
If you want to go super budget, I'd look into some used road race tires. They're plenty because people go through them, and I cut a 1.94 60ft with the D series crx with sprint springs.

Or you could just watch out for a used set of drag radials.

USS 08-23-2006 10:26 PM

Re: Traction on a budget, radials or slicks?
 
I was looking at the ones on Ebay. What's the widest tire you could fit on those 13" honda steelies?

Zeniceguycrx 08-23-2006 10:29 PM

Re: Traction on a budget, radials or slicks?
 
buy a set of snow tires, realy soft and get realy sticky

USS 08-23-2006 10:36 PM

Re: Traction on a budget, radials or slicks?
 

Originally Posted by Zeniceguycrx
buy a set of snow tires, realy soft and get realy sticky

That's what I'm going to burn off my current wheels >:D

Reddy 08-23-2006 10:40 PM

Re: Traction on a budget, radials or slicks?
 

Originally Posted by Stealthmode
If you want to go super budget, I'd look into some used road race tires.


Terrible advice. I don't know what hardness tires you were running but some autocross tires built for long heat cycles will absolutely suck for drag racing. I would reccomend regular all season tires way before used autocross slicks for drag racing

IndianRide 08-23-2006 10:48 PM

Re: Traction on a budget, radials or slicks?
 
my bfg drag radials hook great, but I'm not making 270hp, if you can have spare rims I'd say go with slicks.

beerbongskickass 08-23-2006 11:13 PM

Re: Traction on a budget, radials or slicks?
 
S[end the 400 bucks for lenso's and 24.5 slicks... You will need them with your power...

88dx 08-23-2006 11:22 PM

Re: Traction on a budget, radials or slicks?
 

Originally Posted by beerbongskickass
S[end the 400 bucks for lenso's and 24.5 slicks... You will need them with your power...

I think 24.5" would be overkill for 270hp. If you cant spin them a little your going to bog pretty bad before spool up. Id say 22" would be perfect for now but when you make more power you probaby will want bigger ones :-\

MikeJ-2009 08-23-2006 11:47 PM

Re: Traction on a budget, radials or slicks?
 
Nitto 555r drag radials = 2.1 60ft.
Advan road race tires= 1.9 60ft.

Same car, same night, same pressure. Not that all road race tires are going to outperform and drag radials, but this "terrible advice" worked for me.

Turblow 08-24-2006 12:13 AM

Re: Traction on a budget, radials or slicks?
 
I personally have a ---- of a time in 1-2 for traction on the original Azenis

Ive got maybe 300hp on 15psi in this car (88 crx)

I need to invest in some slicks

anothercivic 08-24-2006 03:01 AM

Re: Traction on a budget, radials or slicks?
 
24.5's are WAY too big for you ::)

G2turbo_terror 08-24-2006 07:26 AM

Re: Traction on a budget, radials or slicks?
 

Originally Posted by Snafubmx234
Are there any 13" steelies that I could even fit slicks on?

Would 13"s even clear your breaks? I know they won't fit my car.

USS 08-24-2006 09:00 AM

Re: Traction on a budget, radials or slicks?
 
I think I'll go for some BFG drag radials for now. I've looked at buying some 15X7 steelies (custom made for like 40 bucks). I'll probably do that, then buy some 22" slicks next spring.

hotrex 08-24-2006 09:19 AM

Re: Traction on a budget, radials or slicks?
 
for me traction on a budget is wearing a ribbed condom when im riding your moms sweet ass.


RENR 08-24-2006 11:53 AM

Re: Traction on a budget, radials or slicks?
 

Originally Posted by Stealthmode
Nitto 555r drag radials = 2.1 60ft.
Advan road race tires= 1.9 60ft.

Same car, same night, same pressure. Not that all road race tires are going to outperform and drag radials, but this "terrible advice" worked for me.

I witnessed this and ---- my pants. you didnt mention that they were the ADVAn a032r 195/50/13, yes 195!

Ogubudiah 08-24-2006 12:22 PM

Re: Traction on a budget, radials or slicks?
 
yeah 13" honda steelies wont fit around integra brakes.


anothercivic 08-24-2006 02:29 PM

Re: Traction on a budget, radials or slicks?
 
Nope but 13" Lenso's will ;)

jarebear667 08-24-2006 03:13 PM

Re: Traction on a budget, radials or slicks?
 
24.5" slicks are too big for under 300 hp.. i had some MT's on my civic and i ran slower times than with my 15" falken's.
i had my silcks mounted on. 13" honda stealies and they cleared my 94 si hatch but i dont think they will clear integra brakes.

Running925 08-24-2006 03:46 PM

Re: Traction on a budget, radials or slicks?
 
i'm currently running some BFG's & love them.. but you guys talkin about the price of those lenso's with the slicks makes me ancy.. where are u guys finding these prises on teh lenso's with MT's

If i can get a good price on them, i'd be willing to sell you my HX wheels & 5mm spacers with plenty of tread left on the BFG's for a good price.

ju-on 08-24-2006 04:06 PM

Re: Traction on a budget, radials or slicks?
 
I guess I don't spend enough time on Honda forums to know if there's anyone already using these on Honda's, but quite a few FWD DSM guys who needed some sticky tires on a budget bought these tires called Green Dot Retreads. They are cheap, and apparently are extremely sticky and work perfect for drag racing.

And yes these are RETREADS, which is probably why they are dirt cheap. But plenty of people have ran them with pretty good success.

I'll see if I can find the site they sell them on, and maybe some links for you on some DSM sites of some threads where other people used them.

ju-on 08-24-2006 04:25 PM

Re: Traction on a budget, radials or slicks?
 
OK here's the site. The ones that everyone uses are the ones on the top of the list called High Performance Z Class http://www.retreadsunlimited.com/

I know turbotrix used to sell them too, but it looks like they don't have them on their site anymore.

And some links to give you an idea of what others asy who used them on FWD DSM's...
http://dsmtuners.com/forums/showthre...light=retreads
http://dsmtuners.com/forums/showthre...light=retreads
http://dsmtuners.com/forums/showthre...light=retreads
http://dsmtuners.com/forums/showthre...light=retreads


Those are just a couple I found doing a quick search. Just a nice cheap alternative for you to consider.

And since I'm sure there will be a few people on here who will come and put their 2 cents in about how they hate retreads and how they are just going to blow apart because they are shitty, yet have zero experience with them, here's a little retread info for you to learn from. http://www.retread.org/

BoosTedZSix 08-24-2006 05:21 PM

Re: Traction on a budget, radials or slicks?
 
just buy some bfg's. Some local guy was selling a used set with a lot of life left for like 100 bucks 15"

beerbongskickass 08-24-2006 06:51 PM

Re: Traction on a budget, radials or slicks?
 
Stop being -----'s... 24.5 inch slicks dropped from 7-8k will be fine... He has a b-series so 300-350whp is not that hard to obtain... ::)

USS 08-24-2006 08:17 PM

Re: Traction on a budget, radials or slicks?
 
I'm going to go with some new 14" BFG's. I'll just run them and see what happens. If I keep spinning them, I'll go for slicks.

beerbongskickass 08-24-2006 11:47 PM

Re: Traction on a budget, radials or slicks?
 
Dude I spin my 14" Nitto's no problem, your going to spin yours... Get the slicks... After the first run you will thank me...

Josh Ross ran his dad's car before it was built with 277whp (or right around there) and pulled an 11.99 @ 110-112mph with a high 1.6/low 1.7 60ft if I remember correctly...

88dx 08-24-2006 11:50 PM

Re: Traction on a budget, radials or slicks?
 

Originally Posted by beerbongskickass
Dude I spin my 14" Nitto's no problem, your going to spin yours... Get the slicks... After the first run you will thank me...

Id rather have a set of drag radials then slicks, since you can use the DR on the street and they last longer. And 24.5" will be too big for you

daubleaaron 08-24-2006 11:59 PM

Re: Traction on a budget, radials or slicks?
 

Originally Posted by BoosTedZSix
just buy some bfg's. Some local guy was selling a used set with a lot of life left for like 100 bucks 15"

And I picked them up ;D Im going to give them a try on sunday at rock falls.

beerbongskickass 08-25-2006 12:01 AM

Re: Traction on a budget, radials or slicks?
 
I realize that Steve, but street racing is pretty much dead. Like I said my car spins drag radials like nothing at about 210whp and I have a Quaife LSD, so 270+ whp will be useless on the street with 14" drag radials... I'd much rather have slicks for the track, and I have had both. The slicks won't be that much too big, come on now...

WhiteEmerica723 08-25-2006 09:39 PM

Re: Traction on a budget, radials or slicks?
 

Originally Posted by Snafubmx234
I think I'll go for some BFG drag radials for now. I've looked at buying some 15X7 steelies (custom made for like 40 bucks). I'll probably do that, then buy some 22" slicks next spring.

Where are you getting these custom made steelies for $40 cuz i got some dr's sitting in my basement that need something to be mounted on

Racintweek 08-25-2006 11:30 PM

Re: Traction on a budget, radials or slicks?
 
get a set of corraddo steelies (15x6) and put a set of 225/45/15 tires on and you are at like 23" and done on the cheap. and since they are reg tires they will last way longer than any DR or true slick


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