Toyota MR2
 

What are you general opinions of these cars? I know a lot about them and have looked at a couple over the years. Just wondering if there are any owners on here or anyone with driving impressions. I was primarily looking at the SW20 (91-98).

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I would love to have a gen1 or 2...they are pretty sicc

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Working on the engine is a bia bia :-X

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---- yeah

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i likes them, I likes them a lot.

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i'm rolling in one right now, my bes friend is letting me take care of it while he is gone in another country. NA versions are very torquey but lacking on top. turbo versions are the opposite. driving HARD in one is pretty hard to get used to. Correcting ovrsteer in one is counterintuitive. Where you'd usually lift during oversteer to regain control you have to stay in the throttle and correct w/ the steering wheel. It is definitely hard to get used to, but turn in is RIGHT NOW, and response is amazing.

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they are toyotas only true sports car. The sw20 is the ----, hard to work on, but man do they haul, leather, and the looks, the only car I deem worthy enough to replace my civic hatch. The 93+ have better brakes and ----. My friend has ordered one from japan (sw20 90), and it will be legal for importation here in march, it will then be placed in my garage for a full install of everything HKS under the red sun. I'll have a full report on what a stand alone tuned stock block sw20 pimped to the tits rides like 8)

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What about the Supra?

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what about it, lol. ;)

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Awesome thanks for the input Bamb. I have always loved them and have driven an 87 supercharged version before but I really like the looks for the MKII. Mostly because of the turbo option.

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Yea um 2jzdet enough said bitch.

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what about the supra? or are you meaning like technically since its just a 2 seater?

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$7,000 or $30,000...enough said b1tch.

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damnit i missed that

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The supra is more of toyotas 'muscle car' in a sense, it's not a all around 'sports' car like the mr2.

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Also stock the MR2 T does 0-60 in 5.9 and the 1/4 in about 14.5. The Supra TT 5.1 and the 1/4 in about 13.5. For the extra $23,000 your save you could make your MR2 eat any Supra out there.

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Exactly, on the road course the MR2 would leave the Supra in the dust.

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MR2 turbo engine sucks at high Rpm unless it is the latest version. (the 94+ or soemthin?)
but it does haul ass under like 5K rpm
but once it hits like 90mph it just die off quick like that

like bamboo said. it`s def.ly not a good car for amture to take corners with. grip limit of the MR2 very unpredictable, they are senstive to every singal input. limit comes in very late, yet hard to correct because of the weight disburition. once it oversteer/understeer (depens on your input)there`s only a slight chance to correct. Not your typical counter steer on RWD could do. on corners it runs a complete different lines with different requirment of gas/braking/steering to balance it out.

but it will be a very fun car if u take it slow and learn how to tamp it

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what is the trap speed.
don`t forget the supra focus only on high speed/high rpm range

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The engine you are referring to is the 3SGTE, and I dont really quite understand where the "die-off" is coming from. I mean it makes max power, 200HP, at 6000RPM and the redline is only 7200RPM. As well there were only slight changes throughout the 91-98 version of the 3SGTE used in the MR2T mostly are strengthening. And if the car dies out so soon why would they haev 4th or 5th gears? The car will do 91MPH in 3rd gear?

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first of all here, there is only 91-95 MR2, second, we get a shitty version of the 3SGTE. #rd what he means is, the dinky little CT20 turbo on the thing is only enough to carry you so far into the RPM range. I'm not sure he actually meant MPH. The car (turbo efficiency-wise) feels something like an LS w/ a starion turbo if you know what I mean.

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there`s an upgrade on the turbo on late model 3sgtes.
i`ve drove eariler models and they SUCK.
i don`t remember which gear but i do remember after like 90 it takes a good while to reach higher speed.
don`t get me wrong that they stop accelating but it just take a while which IMO shouldn`t happen.

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Well I know that we only got the 91-95 versions but in Japan they went right until 98 I believe. And I realize that we get the shite turbo to. But it can be upgraded to the CT25 without much cost or trouble. The block and what not are almost identical especially in the 93 and earlier models right?

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well, there they have the 3rd gen 3SGTE that is MAF sensor instead of MAP and appx 245hp from the factory.

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I think your engine code is wrong. Its 2JZGTE

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I used to want one really bad, and did a bunch of research on them, and was about to purchase one, until I got something better suited to commute. Its a really freaking choice car.

Handling is about as close to a GT car as you can get and still be street legal. The early '91's and I think '92's had a really agressive rear end geometry, that gave it a TON of oversteer. What Bamboo said about throttle on power steering is correct, as most of the weight is on the rearend, so breaking unweights the rear and breaks the tires loose.... After 92' Toyota beancounters figured not enough people here know how to drive, and gave the rearend a much more neutral suspension (like Honda did with the CRX)

The SW engine you refer to is from the 1st gen MR2's, the second gen got the 3SGTE (also found in the Celica GT-S) it is a closed deck block made of cast Iron, w/ and aluminum head. Like most toyota engines the engine is almost bombproof, and caple of lots and lots of boost, a lot more then the dinky turbo it comes with provides.

Getting to the engine/turbo is anouther matter. The engine has to be removed to get to it, and the removal is kind of funny, as you have to drop the entire rear end section, wheels and all out to get to the engine. Not hard, just a little different. A big turbo and a standalone ECU and some cooling upgrades would get you one fast car.

Its one bad ass car, I wish I saw more around. If you are after something a little different, know how to drift really well, and have a large garage, then its the car for you.

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You can also stick a camry v6 in there with a supercharger.

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buy it :D
i love them

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thats like saying hondas only true sports car is the integra or crx.

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One of my friends has an 86. He put the yokohoma parada spec 2 tires on there and upgraded the endlinks. While it's not the fastest thing in the world, it's got lower gearing than a porsche and handles like there's no tomorrow. The car was completely engineered for handling and nothing else, so its completely impractical as a daily driver, but theyre great as toys

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all stock mr2s are slow as donkey balls and are ugly as sin. and a stock turbo supra would eat it alive on a road course because it is so much faster.

im sure you can make em fast.

fieros are ugly as sin too but at least you can buy a kit to put a v8 in it.

btw neither MR2s or supras are true sports cars.

front engine, rear drive, 2 seats

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so u are saying Ferraris F50, Honda NSX and such are not true sport cars? :-*

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The first gen MR2 was the AW11 not the SW. And it was never found in the Celica GT-S, it was in the Celica All-Trac Turbo. It(MR2) came with the 4AGE and the 4AGZE(supercharged). The second gen MR2 is the SW and all of the 2nd gen cars came with the 3SGTE(Turbo) of the 5SFE(NA). The newer of hte SW's came with a the option of LSD and it was stronger as well. Same withe 1st gens in 87 there was a lot done to the block for strength.

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To me a sport car is a two seater thats fast. I think we discussed this before a while back. The nsx is a sport car ansd so is the Ferraris. When i think of honda sport car I think of the s2k. imo the mr2 and supra are toyota sports car.

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i italic'd true sports car because that is the traditional definition.

now there is not a real standard definition. but usually two seats/two doors/built for speed not luxury.

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why does everyone say anythign but a honda is a bitch to work on, hondas are so ------ simple, you should try working on something else and being a little diverse who give s ashit if its hard to work on, more props to you.

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i got one for sale 91 turbo leather 95 wheels only 102k miles 5 speed mr2 like that will sell for 6 grand on ebay only thing wrong is that the turbo is blown because of that it dies out once in a while ill will be posting it soon 4500 bucks
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I have a white 1985 MR2 that runs perfectly. They aer fun lil cars ;)

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The 3SGTE's top end pretty much sucks because of the freak'n ct26 turbo man. It becomes such a bottle neck for that engine. If I were in the market for an MR2, I'd get a NA one with the 5sfe in it, and turbocharge that. The 3sgte exhaust manifold, turbo, and downpipe all fit perfectly. Then all you need is a SMIC, some Supra NA injectors, supra NA map sensor, fuel pump, and then you boost that bitch... wait wait wait, that's my setup!

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I havent seen too many of them out there boosted that is why I was assuming with the higher comp ration that it wasnt really liked among MR2 owners. As far as the strength of the block compared to the 3SGTE how does it hold up? What are you running for boost? And is the transmission in the CND models the only difference between ours and yours down south because the base model is almost two seconds faster in the 0-60 and a second faster in the 1/4 mile specifications. As well there are some differences in the transaxle I think.