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Well I often consider where I will go from hondas ...

I would really like to build a muscle car with and put a turbo to a big V8 using a Holley blow through carb. Simple, yet powerful ... but the realization of how much body work /paint/money I would have to put into an old car usually kills that idea.

I also see myself in a late 80s 944 turbo. I would like to know more about these cars... mostly any inherent problems, ease of upgrades, how can they be tuned, what are the HP limits of the stock motors , how similar is the NA car, etc.

Please share what you know. I would imagine the goal would be at least 400whp .... 550 would be perfect.

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those are pieces of ----......replacing the motor is probably the smartest thing youll do. th 944 is porsches attempt to make an economy car. come on..........its porsche. they should have sticked to high end cars. not cheap, gas milage ones.

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944 is ------- sexy as ----(probably my most favroite car for astetic reasons). get a 928 and youll get your v8 and you can pretend you're ------- tony montana!

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granted they are sexy as hell......especially with a nice set of rims, paint, and a little drop

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I love the 944's. Almost bought one as my first car, wish I would have. :'(


The motors are complete ---- in those things thats about it. Take it out and put in something cool and non-VW

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What can you swap in there besides a V8? Are there any Porsche turbo motors that will bolt in there that aren't complete pieces of ----?

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porsche 944 turbo was greater

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same here.

I love the way they look. And they're about the only way I could afford to get into a porsche. I knew the NA cars were pretty lame with something like 140whp or so .... I kinda thought the turbo version was closer to 250 and prolly a stronger motor .... and from what I have read they handle like slot cars ...

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Grassroots had a good article about the 944
http://grmotorsports.com/news/012005...ed-porsche.php

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1995-1999 Saab 9000 Aero.

Faster acceleration than a 911 from 30 to 80...
Stock bottom end good for 450+ HP.
Unlike most Honda's, you can actually carry more than one friend. And some gear.

It's the ultimate sleeper.

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944 turbos are extremely slow

the 944 v8s or whatever they were that look like 944s are just slow and extremely expensive!

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Too bad it's still FWD.

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944 turbos are pretty cool, a close friend of mine has one. they respond very well to early modifications, as they have some problems from the factory that limit them. first thing you would want to do is get a new WG. the factory one opens VERY early in an effort to provide a N/A type power band. just that alone turns the car into a whole different animal. with just a WG, chip and 3" turbo back they're pretty fast on the highway and i can personally tell you they'll run to 170+.

if you like to drag race, you probably wont enjoy it very much. next to impossible to launch worth a ----.

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944 turbos are sssslooooowwww

and what would opening the wastegate do other than make the car extremely slow LOL

na powerband, lots of NA cars run their exhaust through quarter sized holes :1

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Production: 1984-1988
Engine Type: Water Cooled Turbocharged Inline 4
Displacement: 2500 cc
153 cu. in.
Power: 217 hp @ 5800 rpm [1988+TurboS]- 250hp
162 kW @ 5800 rpm
Torque: 243 lb. ft. @ 3500 rpm[1988+TurboS]-258lb.ft
330 Nm @ 3500 rpm
Weight: 1360 kg
2999 lb

0-60 mph:
~0-100 km/h: 5.5 s [TurboS]-5.4
Quartermile: 14.5 s
Top Speed: 245 km/h
152 mph [TurboS]-161mph

Sounds alright but nothing spectacular.For what parts probably cost etc I would say it isnt worthwile.The 1988+ Turbo S models sound decent with more power,lsd,larger brakes etc.

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Good info. I was thinking they had 250hp so I guess I was looking at an '88 S t get that info. Definately a little heavy .... 14.5 1/4 :3 kinda lame ...

I guess the goal would be a sexy car that hauls ass RWD or AWD style .... has ~400whp+ and turns out high 12 sec 1/4s or better. Preferably more impressive to roll up in than a honda/dsm ... done for under $10k .... any ideas ???

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I'd go 240SX.I have always liked them and Im doing a SR swap in one as a winter project for a local and I really want one now.$10k would be enough to build a nice one and they handle well,look good IMO and it wouldnt be very hard to put one in the 12's.Either do a SR swap and upgrade turbo or boost the KA.The other option would be a RX7 TurboII but if you are not a rotary guy it probably wouldnt be a good choice as you need to know what your doing with one or it will be unreliable etc.If you arent set on a import I would buy a Mustang like a 96 style and boost it.The fox body ones 87/88-92/3 I dont know the exact years are a awesome starting point and it takes nothing to put one in the 12's.Alot of people dont like the looks of them and the interior is brutal but there is nothing easier to build a killer street car from.

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I'd really like an RX7 but I would want a really nice one and I am thinking I would be in the $15k+ price range .... and so far I think the Porsche still has the vote for pimpness ... 8) :6 ^-^ :S :X

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porsche for the win!

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And you're driving a what? That does what in the 1/4?
You silly, silly monkey. :S

Back on topic...

The 944 can be had cheaply because they were Porsche's attempt at a mass-market car. As others have said, unless you have a trust fund somewhere, the engines absolutely suck. You'd be better off with an older 911, with it's classic body style and more workable engine. It's not a stop-light smoker, so don't go drag racing it, but the overall balance and handling will win you over. (The 928 beats it for sexiness, but the repairs will kill ya....)

Even a relatively simple old-school 911 will still cost a gonad or two every couple of years for maintainence if you don't do the work yourself. A friend had the engine in his 77 911 track car rebuilt a couple of years ago: $7,000....

He learned to do the work himself

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i almost bought one a while back my friend had like 3 man those things are junks but man those things looks sweet if they are mint. i love that 80s sports car look. and that thing has it.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...t/e1f46053.jpg

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944 = sexy ass money pit. :6
93-95 RX7 = super sexy, but kinda pricey. :y :y

What about a gen 2 Rx7 turbo. I seen a few of those that look pretty sweet.

Fiero with a Lambo kit.... :4

Riceboys make Hondas embarrassing.

What about the domestic camp?

I know opinions are like assholes... but 240SX<sexy.

My $0.02

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my friend must of dumped 8 grand into his 944 944 = money pit

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You could get the ultimate geriatric hot rod....C4 CORVETTE.

Driven a couple. = LAME

Only ones excused from the mid life crisis badge are the ZR1s and the later Calaways. Mmmm. Lotus codeveloped twin cam V8 or twin turbo madness. > poster wants to spend.

'89 Turbo TAs are becoming pretty affordable. Grand National in an f-body. :y
Mid 12's off the showroom floor with lots of potential. Decent handling in stock form with way more potential with the right parts.

Grand Nattys are sexy as hell but most factory g-bodies handle like ass form the factory.
Lots and lots of upgrades available. = BAD MOTHER FUCKER.

LT! powered cars respond really well to mods. Get an f bomb and GM Performance Parts HOT LT4 kit with a quality exhaust system and have 425+. you could do the same to an Easy Caprisy, or Impala SS, and have a pretty fast car with ass loads of room. A good friend of mine has a 96 Impala SS and it handles surprisingly well for such a big ass car.

Everyone is jocking them but, LS1 powered cars are pretty damn fast. Earlier Z28s and TAs A getting to be very affordable.
98-02 WS6 = sexy ass mullet madness.

Be like everyone else in the domestic camp and get a fox body mustang and a summit catalog. ::)
Yes, I know they are a great cheap and fast platform.

You can buy a brand new 67-68 Camaro coupe or 69 convertible shell for 10 grand. Yes ladies and gents, they have hit kit car status.

My apolagies for the long post ,but being jobless is starting to take its toll. :S

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early c4 corvettes own, 225hp of madness

the LT1 and LT4 c4 vettes are nice though

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https://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e...t/e1f46053.jpg

Oh yes :o :y :S :7 :6 ^-^ :-X :8 That + 500whp would be a dream .....too bad they suck

I have a buddy with a '93 Vette that does 11s on the bottle ... I think I could live with that ..

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lets just say a 2nd gen rx7 beats a 944 in every way. it also turns better, and is well... well its s better car.

only if it dont catch fire. lol.

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kain get off the rx7s, from the factory the 1st and 2nd gen rx7s are complete garbage, they dont do anything well.

the 3rd gens are decently fast, handle, and brake decently.

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get a 300zx twin turbo, is a fun ass car, intake, full exhaust and a boost controller puts you 12.4 to 13.0 depending on how you drive, then put some 555 cc injectors in it and you'll be in high 11's @ 17psi maxing the stock turbos out. sad part is the injectors cost 1000 dollars and thats the only ones available :-\

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my friend raced a turbo, then got arrested. But he won.

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so tell my whay they call the poor mans corvette an rx7 with an ls1? the first gen was simply thrown togeather from ---- mazda had laying around. turned out to be pretty damn good. also, the 2nd gen came out to compete directly with porche, and it was better. the thrid gens where pretty nice. although the cosmo and the jspec ones came 3 rotor from factory only in japan, and if they braught them here, the would directly com[pete with many cars on the road now adays.

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i like the way the second gens handle, they feel very nice. there pretty popular for scca, and i hear that it is relatively easy to swap small blocks into them and keep a perfect 50/50 weight distribution

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I had an 83 Porsche 944 for a few months. The only thing I would say that is decent about it is the suspension. Motor is weak (no power) but it can beat an Escort ZX2 by like 3 lengths, yeah its that fast! I had a throttle rotor, intake and cat back exhaust. Don't waste your time on any of them, even the turbos. Like he said it is an economy car. It will break with few upgrades. HAHA weak sauce.

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RX7's never came with 3 rotors in Japan, just the cosmos.
I have an 85 and a 95 rx7 and love them both although they are heavily modified and far from stock.
My buddy just picked up a 944 turbo. I have ridden in it a couple times and I'm impressed for what it is. They seem to be designed well. Nice external oil cooler, divorced wastegate that has a separate exhaust and y's back in to the system downstream, brake ducts integrated in the front bumper, etc.

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Mate, that's exactly what I'm doing!!!!!!!

Porsche 944 isn't the most powerful but Porsche wouldn't change to a V6 or V8 as they have strong principals. Once they made their mind up, that was it. How about a flat 6 hanging out the back of a car behind the rear axle. Never catch on, eh???? ;o)

The 944 is more about straight line speed as it's a perfectly balanced chassis with the transmission all in the back on the rear axle.

I've bought my basic one as a non runner for little and have thrown all the crap out of it. There's a company in the US doing US V8 conversions but I didn't want to do it as a heavy small block could really upset the cars balance.

I'm going for the Lexus 1UZFE 4 litre 32 valve all alloy engine to be different and also because it has a 6 bolt main crank.

Going to use a blow through holley and have a Vortech V2 in my garage ready to go.

A bit low on money at the moment but should get there. The Lexus engine is wider than a SBC but should squeeze in.

Oh by the way, Porsches are a money pit if you want to keep everything working in it. So I decided to throw anything out that wasn't bolted down. Along with the engine has gone all the interior. Will put perspex glass in, glass fibre wings and bonnet. Should save about 250ibs hopefully. Once running there will be nothing on it to go wrong other than my own engineering attempts! ;o)

A mate of mine here in the UK has done his own conversion putting the alloy Rover (Range Rover) V8 in (ex buick lump). With a simple set up of a webber carb and careful attention to the chassis using decent bushes and suspension the tired old 944 is now a frightening 948!

Let me know what you think.

Cheers
Mark

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i bet the garbage 1uzfe motor weights a lot more than an ls1/ls6/ls7/etc...

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probably weighs about the same. if not alittle bit more because its dohc. dohc v8's are physicaly huge.

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1991 CRX HF that does 14's in the quarter with a bone stock motor and no turbo.

Fun daily driver? Yes
Race car? No

Sounds like the OP wants more of a race car he can drive on the street, tipping the scale to RWD. My origional comment was aimed at that SAAB thing or whatever it was, which in my opinion would be a better car if it were RWD or AWD.

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Yes, a very fast and impressive looking street car is what I am wanting. A late model Supra or RX7 would be just the car if I wanted to spend that much money. Kind of trying to brain storm another route that calls for $10k or less ... not having much luck though ...

Just kinda burnt out on my teg ... spent alot of money and took alot of work to get to a car that might turn 12s, isn't as fun as RWD, won't lauch like AWD, has all the bugs of a car that wasn't originally turbo, and doesn't come accross as stunna ... more like highschoola .... :-\

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z28/ss camaro
any mustang
corvette etc...
poopras and rx7s are gay