SSS Autochrome
 

Hey guys, just wondering if all of there stuff is bad or just there OBX lifetime warranty manifold. Would you guys buy a turbo from them.
When looking for a new one anybody know of a better place?-DL Enjoy My AVATAR!! I will tonight

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you gunna make love to a red x?

you sick sonofabitch

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for one you have a nice big red X as an avatar


for 2 you should be banned for starting this thread

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Im testing about 7 different products from SSautochrome right now. Turbos/Gates/Valves etc..

He asked me about a new designed manifold to replace the very common one that breaks.

Keep in mind even though all of these products were giving to me for free, I won't judge that, If they are ----.. I will rate them as ----.

1- T3/T4 "T70 Turbo"
2- T3/T4 57trim .50/63 (internal gated)
3- T3/T4 57trim .50/63
4- Tial look alike 50mm BOV
5- 2 TurboXS's cloned RFL's
6- 45mm Cloned HKS Gate / 40mm HKS Cloned Gate
7- Tial look alike 35mm Gate

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i don't think the turbos are that bad. they blow seals fast tho. like 4 of my friends are runnin one. my brother included in that. hes had his for 20k miles no probs

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Oh and before everyone here gets on the "SSAutochrome turbos break in half" bandwagon like on honda-tech, I actually was informed that it wasnt even one of their turbos at all.

SSautochrome Owns XSturbo USA, all turbos are built here.

Supposivly there is a China Company that cloned the Turbo XS turbo and started selling them on Ebay as well, SSautochrome wasnt selling them either.

Heres an example

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/ssauto/xsturbo1.jpg

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/ssauto/xsturbo2.jpg

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/ssauto/xsturbo3.jpg

These turbos are made here in the US, and from what he has told me they have very little problems at all with these turbos. The turbos before this were the ones with the "Turbo XYZ" or whatever on the compressor housing. We used one on a turbo z6 almost 2 years ago and its still running just fine.

I also have one of these turbos that I will be using on a customers car.

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/ssauto/Fake1.jpg

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/ssauto/Fake2.jpg

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/ssauto/Fake3.jpg

Here are The chinese versions of the XS Turbo, the ones that were split in half and were claimed to have been sold by SSauto on HT.

I've been lurking Ebay for several years now and have always watched what he has sold, and I have never seen him sell one of those turbos, I thought for sure they were all the same but I guess not.

Some people might be in shock that I am defending the guy, and giving his products a chance. We all know his manifolds arnt the greatest, but he is planing on retiring that pos with something better. He was even talking if we could get 5 hmt guys here to prototype a new manifold. I'm always willing to give people a chance, and try out their products. I'll be checking all these products out and seeing how they perform. I've already ripped apart all the turbos, gates, and valves and everything looks great. I just hope everything turns out well. For the price he sells this stuff, its definatly worth a test.

Jeff

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Huh? thats funny it works on my computer can you guys still see it on the homepage its the HMT boob pic.
And racintweek I take it you don't care for there products? Abaz let me know how they do?

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ha thats funny. that top turbo is the same exact one i have on my d15. the 50 trim. and its awesome

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jeff your w3rd has a big influence on this site and its members. i hope the free ---- doesnt cloud yout judgement. i hope you rape those turbos and parts just as you would any other setup

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::)

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Oh I know... if his products are ----, I will just come out and say it. And dont worry about me raping the ---- out of my car, thats pretty much standard operating procedures. :)

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hey good for ss auto_____ and good for hmt, There is no questions about the manifolds, but there othere products aren't that well known. As long as jeff provides HMT with an honest opinion of the product, It wlil be cool for us. If the stuff works, it works

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I've had one of his 35mm wastegates for almost a year now with no problems. I have the knock off rfls waiting to go on. If jeff green flags the turbo I might put one on my built zc when I get around to finishing it this winter. I'd also be willing to prototype one of his new mani's on it. Have an all ssauto setup :o

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whats the differance between the old and new manis? cuz i have one of the xspower manis on my car. and no problems so far

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which manifold do you have? you have a B or D in your car?

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d15 motor but i got the d16 manifold. and it was ordered from ss not ebay. it came in a box that said xspower all over it. i got the turbo and mani for free so i can't complain. but when i heard about the manifolds i took the turbo apart to look at it. and the cold side is one piece not two like the china one

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See, I used a XS power mani on a ZC turbo project about 1 1/2 years ago and it worked ok. I think the big problem are the B-series ones. Since he sent me one yesterday I took a close look at it, and this is what I found.

1. The braces on the manifold was broke when I got it? maybe it happened in shipping I dont know.. But the packaging was very nice and I dont see how any damage could have happened. Obviously this is a easy fix.

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/ssauto/crack.jpg

2. I couldnt help but notice how much the flange/collector was tilted at almost a 7 degree angle downward. It is said that anything over what 10 degrees? is way to much. I'm just curious on why the manifold is even setup like that? Also, The WG port is in the wrong spot unless you like 850 degrees blowing out by your compressor housing. This manifold wont support t3/t4's (compressor side pass)

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/ssauto/tilt.jpg

3. When I bolted the manifold to the block for inspection I noticed a huge gap on the end, so I put the manifold on several different flat surfaces to find out the head flange was heavily warped,

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/ssauto/warp1.jpg
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/ssauto/warp2.jpg

I emailed all this information to him, with his response was he wanted to retire that manifold and come up with a new design and asked for my input.

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well mines no where near titled that much ha. its tilted alittle. but its turned to. i have to have my exhaust side on the passanger side. if i put the cold side on the passanger side the housin will touch the block and won't bolt to the manifold. so i have to have my downpipe right next to the radiator which sucks and heats up and causes my radiator to heat up and my car over heat when i'm giving it full throttle. so now i have to spend like 100 bucks for some heat wrap. which sucks :(

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Wel Jeff, maybe the other products arn't as bad as the current manifolds.. Let us know what happens with all the stuff he sent you. Thats also pretty nice of him

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whatever is clever. gotta give people a second chance///

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Haha, hotrex, does this mean you going to unban yourself from the classifieds?

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I used a turbo and a manifold from them in my old setup and they both worked fine for me but it was a T25 so there wasn't alot of load on the manifold.I really hope he starts producing some better designs as the pricing is awesome and instead of piecing together used crusty parts alot of us could run new ----.Anybody use one of there intercoolers?Ive never heard anything about how they perform.

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is he trying to completely make a new manifold design or just make the current one not shitty?

as long as its not shitty i'd like to give it a try, tell him to hurry up cuz im about to just order a DIY log :P

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no ----; it'd be really nice if his t70 thing turned out to be decent. my garret t3/t04e is taking a ---- and i'll need a new turbo pretty quick

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Lol, this thread remind me of that dity slut that I was banging and I had to explain to all my friends how she wasn't a dity slut, but everyone including me knew she was. :-\

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Id get one of the BOV's. There isnt too much to ---- up in one of them and i cant afford a real RFL. O0

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tell him to make a HF manifold for b-series :D id test one out.

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well 1 night of street racing the setup has done pretty well... about 8 races 17~19ish psi (turned it up and isnt holding to well)

Blow off valve is working good, I'm gonna put on his 45mm gate tommorow and see how well it holds boost, this audi gate is about as bad as a delta creeper.

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ALL the turbo form XS are built in China, not singal one of them are built here in the US. (Yes I know exactly no matter what they said)
Most of the manifold flanges are wraped, head flange AND turbo flange. They are resurfaced BEFORE they are welded together.
Some of the bolt pattern are misaligned. head flange and turbo flange.
Their D16 manifold does Not clear anything bigger T3/04B even tho they said it works with all T3/4
Almost all the the welding does not really penatrede (spell :P) deep enough

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going based on everyone's experiences they have a very awful rep. now that there seems to be some real research beeing done by a knowlegable person on their NEW products, they seem to be going in the right direction. Jeff's tests could chenge thier rep if everythign turns out ok

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Yeah, I still wouldent trust the mother fucker. people dont all of the sudden hop up and change.

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Nice, I hope this turns out good, i wanted to get one of their 60-1 turbo's but wasn't about to risk it. If they work fine then that's a huge money saver.

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Hm... interesting that they turned a new leaf.

I've never seen or dealt with an SSautochrome piece first hand, so everything I've heard has been over the interweb. If their ---- isn't as bad as it's made out to be, I might have a new turbo ;)

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Its not the product that I would woory about, its the customer suport. Seams once you bought it its too bad so sad :-\

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ive got a customer who dyno'ed today and for whatever reason couldn't spool for crap. I suspect the SS Auto wastegate honestly.

Nothing in the setup has changed, and I dont suspect any leaks on the compressor side, as it still builds 12psi. The problem is that now instead of spooling 12psi by 4500-4800 or so, it doesnt get all the way there until redline at 7400.

I'm concerned that the gate isnt working properly. I've seen it happen on a couple before, but at the same time I've seen them work perfectly several times as well.

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I had a 2piece xs and it split in half. I just jb welded it 2gether and kept using it. O0
And i've had the xs manderel mani for like 5k miles ... no problems, and i bought it used , the guy b4 me had it on his car for like 15k he said. So not all of thier ---- is crap .. For the price you cant really beat it.

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i got a top mount turbo mani for my sr20 and i am going to use it hopefully it works out good i will let you know

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There's general material choice problems with the manifold. After being rewelded, braced to kingdom come, etc, ad nauseam, Speed Phreak's SSAC blew out a chunk of metal between the four runners, ventilating the collector.

I can understand why a thin wall tubular on a dynamically unbalanced four cylinder is going to ---- the bed if it is expected to support wastegate or turbo. I can't understand why it would blow out welds in a 340 whp 12 psi situation. Less than 2000 miles on the thing, no less.

Tell the guy to do a short runner unequal length shorty, sort of like what I think their DSM unit looks like but am too lazy to verify, out of different or thicker metal. Bonus points if the flange is cocked a little to allow 9" compressor scrolls.


Sometime in the last two weeks he removed himself from the ban list. Previously, he was #4 or so listed. I haven't said anything, been waiting for Shipping 103 to ensue...

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funny how i defended them months ago and explained the same stuff thats already being explained and no one cared and bashed me.

im glad that some of you guys are actually opening up to at least think about SSAC.

i have gotten a few things recently and will be trying out other items of his soon (bov and wg)

hopefully all the tests work out well for everyone. i know my testing has been great with SSAC's products for over a year now, and their customer service and responses are quick and top notch. and any problems i have had with them were taken care of quickly and exceeded my expectations.