Sony PSX ( the new playstation)
 

Well as usualy the US is getting shafted with not getting new products from Japan till way later. The Japaneese get this new PSX on Jan. 13'th. Thease guys pulled it apart for the hell of it, they got it first lol. The controllers are USB 1.1 with an option of a 160 GB or 150 GB harddrive. I WANT THIS SYSTEM lol


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Damn man...
I wouldnt mind one either:P

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xbox > everything

700mhz pIII
directX graphics...
:)

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umm ---- MICROSOFT lol

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whatever you think about microsoft...

xbox owns everything

ps2 can't even be compared to it... ps2 blows ass in my opinion... it runs all the games slow too :/

ps2
CPU: 128 Bit "Emotion Engine"
System Clock: 300 MHz
System Memory: 32 MB Direct Rambus <-- haha
Memory Bus Bandwidth: 3.2 GB per second

Vector Units: VU0 and VU1 (Floating Point Multiply Accumulator x 9, Floating Point Divider x 1)

Floating Point Performance: 6.2 GFLOPS
3D CG Geometric Transformation: 66 million Polygons Per Second

Compressed Image Decoder: MPEG2
Graphics: "Graphics Synthesizer"
Clock Frequency: 150MHz
DRAM Bus bandwidth: 48 GB Per Second
DRAM Bus width: 2560 bits
Pixel Configuration: RGB:Alpha:Z Buffer (24:8:32)
Maximum Polygon Rate: 75 Million Polygons Per Second
Sound: "SPU2+CPU"

CPU Core: Current PlayStation CPU
Clock Frequency: 33.8 MHz or 37.5 MHz (selectable)
Sub Bus: 32 Bit
Interface Types: IEEE1394, Universal Serial Bus (USB)

GPU in the xbox is about as fast as the CPU in the ps2

xbox
CPU: 733 MHz chip crafted by Intel
Graphics Processor: 250MHz custom chip named XGPU, developed by Microsoft and nVIDIA
Total Memory: The RAM in the Xbox will be supplied by Micron, it will be 64 MB running at 200MHz DDR (Double-Data-Rate)
Memory Bandwidth: 6.4 GB/sec
Polygon Performance: 125 M/sec
Sustained Polygon Performance: 100+ M/sec (transformed and lit polygons per second)
Micropolygons/particles per second: 125 M/sec
Particle Performance: 125 M/sec
Simultaneous Textures: 4
Pixel Fill Rate - No Texture: 4.0 G/Sec (anti-aliased)
Pixel Fill Rate - 1 Texture: 4.0 G/Sec (anti-aliased)
Compressed Textures: Yes (6:1)
Full Scene Anti-Alias: Yes
Micro Polygon Support: Yes
Storage Medium: 2-5x DVD, 10GB hard disk, 8MB memory card
I/0: 2-5x DVD, 10GB hard disk, 8MB memory card
Audio Channels:64 (up to 256 stereo voices)
3D Audio Support: Yes
MIDI DLS2 Support: Yes
AC3 Encoded Game Audio: Yes
Broadband Enabled: Yes
Modem Enabled: No
DVD Movie Playback: Remote control package required
Maximum Resolution: 1920x1080
Maximum Resolution (2x32bpp frame buffers +Z): 1920x1080
HDTV Support: Yes
Controller Ports: 4 USB Ports

gamecube
MPU ("Microprocessor Unit")
Custom IBM Power PC "Gekko"

Manufacturing Process
0.18 micron IBM Copper Wire Technology

Clock Frequency
485 MHz

CPU Capacity
1125 Dmips (Dhrystone 2.1)

Internal Data Precision
32-bit Integer & 64-bit Floating-point

External Bus
1.3GB/second peak bandwidth (32-bit address space, 64-bit data bus 162 MHz clock)

Internal Cache
L1: Instruction 32KB, Data 32KB (8 way) L2: 256KB (2 way)

System LSI
Custom ATI/Nintendo "Flipper"

Manufacturing Process
0.18 micron NEC Embedded DRAM Process

Clock Frequency
162 MHz

Embedded Frame Buffer
Approx. 2MB Sustainable Latency : 6.2ns (1T-SRAM)

Embedded Texture Cache
Approx. 1MB Sustainable Latency : 6.2ns (1T-SRAM)

Texture Read
10.4GB/second (Peak)

Main Memory
2.6GB/second (Peak)

Pixel Depth
24-bit Color, 24-bit Z Buffer

Image Processing Functions
Fog, Subpixel Anti-aliasing, 8 Hardware Lights, Alpha Blending, Virtual Texture Design, Multi-texturing, Bump Mapping, Environment Mapping, MIP Mapping, Bilinear Filtering, Trilinear Filtering, Filtering, Real-time Hardware Texture Decompression (S3TC), Real-time Decompression of Display List, HW 3-line Deflickering filter





The following sound related functions are all incorporated into the System LSI


Sound Processor
custom Macronix 16-bit DSP

Instruction Memory
8KB RAM + 8KB ROM

Data Memory
8KB RAM + 4KB ROM

Clock Frequency
81 MHz

Performance
64 simultaneous channels, ADPCM encoding

Sampling Frequency
48KHz

System Floating-point Arithmetic Capability
10.5 GFLOPS (Peak) (MPU, Geometry Engine, HW Lighting Total)

Real-world polygon
6 million to 12 million polygons/second (Peak) (Assuming actual game conditions with models, fully textured, fully lit, etc.)

System Memory
40MB

Main Memory
24 MB MoSys 1T-SRAM, Approximately 10ns Sustainable Latency

A-Memory
16MB (81MHz DRAM)

Disc Drive
CAV (Constant Angular Velocity) System

Average Access Time
128ms

Data Transfer Speed
16Mbps to 25Mbps

Media
3 inch NINTENDO GAME CUBE Disc based on Matsushita's Optical Disc Technology, Approx. 1.5GB Capacity

Input/Output
Controller Port x4 Memory Card Slot x2 Analog AV Output x1 Digital AV Output x1 High-Speed Serial Port x2 High-speed Parallel Port x1

Power Supply
AC Adapter DC12V x 3.5A

Main Unit Dimensions
4.3"(H) x 5.9"(W) x 6.3"(D)

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i have all three and by far the game cube is the fastest.

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tooo funny lol

xbox has better hardware by sooooooooooo far its not even compareble

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BTW random, no offence but you tend to falsify info to make your case the strongest. IMO the gamecube is the fastest and i belive that is due to the better software coding and the size of data on the disk. BTW teh PSX is more than just agamin system, its what mickysoft has been trying to do for years, BE the entire entertainment center, so you not just buying the game system, your buying a TV tuner, VCR( tv replay deal), DVD player, and it looks as though it has a burner in it as well. And it uses standard cableing for once.

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lol i didn't false-ify anything. i took those straight off websites.

xbox works in 32bit. gamecube 24bit, ps2 32bit

xbox
Polygon Performance: 125 M/sec
Sustained Polygon Performance: 100+ M/sec (transformed and lit polygons per second)

ps2
Maximum Polygon Rate: 75 Million Polygons Per Second


i really couldn't see nintendo making better software than every single company on the earth that makes ps2 and xbox games.

i'll trust you and believe the gcube loads ---- faster, but it also doesn't have the same quality as a xbox...

what did nintendo do that is better/faster than c++ & directX

xbox uses win2000/winNT type OS right? windows NT isn't slow

xbox plays DVDs and mp3s

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I honestly dont notice seeing that most game companys WILL make only one version of the game and not make it preform better on the xbox or the ps2. Nintendo makes there own games for the ---- for the most part. and NT is slow as ----. Compaired to linux or any other OS out there NT is SLOOOWWW and crashes alot. I see this all the time being a system admin. no calls from the unix/linux/mac people, its all windows users nad we have a fair ammount of each on the network. PS2 plays dvds WITHOUT having to buy a damn controller as music and i think it plays MP3's.

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alright i gotta go to bed but i had windows 2000 for like 3 years and it never crashed...

windows has to flex to soooooo many different types of hardware and software... thats where problems come from, its not that windows "sucks" compared to linux/MAC. but red hat and apple do not have the aftermarket that a windows based PC does.

people say this all the time but its just hard to compare a windows system to a mac system just because the windows system has SOOO many different types of hardware and software, it has to work with them all. and when problems happen with 150 out of 5.6billion types of hardware and software its not really that bad...

the beauty of microsoft is the "aftermarket" is created a HUGE industry. if it were up to MAC only apple would make money... less movement of money... less for the economy... less jobs... less money for the government... less everything. more money for fruityass steve jobs though lol

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that still doent explain linux, linux flexses more tahn windows ever well. they handle really old hardware and the new stuff as well. BTW direct X is jsut a subset of commands, linux has already duplicated this set of commands and is able to run windows games and most programs.

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the X box is better, which pisses me off. but games like Halo 2 could never be possible on a PS2 nor a GC, at least with that type of quality. The one thing the Ps2 has that keeps me loving it, is publishers (which isn't as much of a problem for MS as it used to be) and ergonomics, out of the three new-gen systems the good-ol' PS controller feels by far the best. the gamecube shouldn't even be compared to the other two, it is a good system, but it is/was made for a much younger target audience then the PS2 and the X-box and it shows. games like super monkey ball are great, but i'll be damned if I ever see a decent adult type game on GC that wasn't ported to it.

BTW, the super nintendo is far better then any of the three. I'm playing Final Fantasy 6 (for the 937974th time) and it whoops the ass of anything put out since the mid 90's

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i know directX is an api

linux/unix is fine

guess it was just an act of god that windows became so popular. oh wait it was bill gates forcing windows on ppl from his parents garage by wielding his huge monopoly...

lol :P

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i like super nintendo too... super black bass is the greatest game ever :P

well that and that one donkey kong game where you could ride in the mining cars or whatever..

and for SNES super dodge ball!!!!!!!!!!!!

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LMAO no the ATARI!! lol i have a 2600 right here with asteroids and pacman and command! that thing is fun as hell to pull out at parties LOL!

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if you like asteroids check this ---- out :P

i made this in java, you need java1.4 or newer to play it... and at least a deece vid card... it uses vid card ram rather than system..

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss.../asteroids.htm

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haha that things is great! lol

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I have one of every cartridge based non-portable system ever made, down to the magnavox oddysey 2, turbo grafX 16, all three versions of the sega genesis, sega master system, famicom (w/ disk system), Sfamicom, front loading and two toploading NES (with 511 out of 711 liscensed games + a bunch of unlicensed and tengen games, and every acsessory that ever came out for it, in every variation, like my ROB robot, and both the small and Large power gloves),a SNES and SNES2 i don't have a coleco vision, but i have a reason for not getting one and i'd get made fun of for it (it has to do with my being vegan), and about 20 other systems most of which people don't know of.

as for atari I have an atari 400 (the programmer) an 800 (the newer model) a 2600

the only CD systems I own are ones that can attach to my cartridge based ones, I have both the front(rare) and top loading sega CD's and a turbo CD attachment.

I am Uber dork.

I even have a pokemon snap machine (the print station)

Re:Sony PSX ( the new playstation) The Random/Onyx thread
 

BTW this was the 911 post for this month.. ewww

Re:Sony PSX ( the new playstation) The Random/Onyx thread
 

what do you mean?

Re:Sony PSX ( the new playstation) The Random/Onyx thread
 

just a bad number under the threat level, being superstitious lol .. BTW i was on my way getting all the older systems there jsut hard to come by. Hell a year ago on EBAY a 2600 would sell for $150 with 5 games, it was insane.

Re:Sony PSX ( the new playstation) The Random/Onyx thread
 

try finding a 2600 black case version, or the toploading NES with the RCA cable ports (sometimes you luck out on those). the hardest to find for me was the oddysey in such good condition, i finally found one at a thrift store for $25 in the OG box, in the OG plastic bags, with OG zipties on the controller wires , and also (get this) including the warranty and registration cards both which were printed on the old computer punch card things (the ones with the holes they used to write binary on and have a whole box for a few bits of info)

Re:Sony PSX ( the new playstation) The Random/Onyx thread
 

i have the 6 switch "telegames" version in primo condition. comes with the big atari storeage case. here the pict:

http://www.jdmcrx.com/onyx/atari.jpg

Re:Sony PSX ( the new playstation) The Random/Onyx thread
 

word, everyone and their grandma has that version, hehe,'s still fun to play a good round of custer's revenge sometimes (atari porn game wher you make your way across the screen to rape an indian princess who is tied to a cactus)

Re:Sony PSX ( the new playstation) The Random/Onyx thread
 

BTW was this the black case you were talking about? lol

http://www.jdmcrx.com/onyx/atari22.jpg

Re:Sony PSX ( the new playstation) The Random/Onyx thread
 

I like turbos this ---- is too technical for me

Re:Sony PSX ( the new playstation) The Random/Onyx thread
 

Xbox, PS2, gamecube are all trying to catch up to computers.

You already have a computer and more software comes out for it and you can download it for free yet everyone loves home systems. You can hook the system up to your TV and home entertainment system too......

Maybe im just stupid, but i think a computer beats all of the systems by far. I dont have xbox, ps2, gamecube, or a computer that can play games though :P

Re:Sony PSX ( the new playstation) The Random/Onyx thread
 

I think this is a dumb argument. If you like ps2. play ps2 If you lke xbox. play xbox. To most people it's the games that matter the most. I could have a really fast gaming system but not want to play it cus the games suck. But for the nerds out there thast want to impress the ladies with some polygons p/sec numbers, this is a great thread to get layed to. I I know I am going to get some flak on this but don't waste your time. I will never come to this thread again. Have fun gaming and don't argue please. Thanks

Re:Sony PSX ( the new playstation) The Random/Onyx thread
 

personally i think video games are a waste of your time

Re:Sony PSX ( the new playstation) The Random/Onyx thread
 

IMO, xbox seems to have smoother graphics and a built in hard drive is a plus........

but it all comes down to controllers and PS2 analog controllers cannot be beaten for button placement, ergonomics, and everything else.

XBOX controllers suck, gamecube controllers REALLY suck.

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I agree. Random already owned you all... I have an xbox too by the way. :)

Re:Sony PSX ( the new playstation) The Random/Onyx thread
 

I saw the PSX a couple months ago and dismissed it because I think the whole concept it gay. And for 900 bucks.. you gotta be kidding.

As a PVR its going to suck ass, because Q1 of 2004 High Definition PVR's from Tivo will be out!!! Which is why I've been holding out on a Tivo for like 2 years now. I own a 65" Toshiba widescreen and normal Tivo looks like poopoo.

My Ps2 has been in the closet for like 3 months now, I'd sell it but its just not worth much money considering what I have into it.

Xbox > Game Piracy .. nothing like putting the games right to hard disk
Xbox > Online play (which is all I do)
Xbox > Speed & Graphics quuality (esp with a Component cable and some high defininition games!)
Xbox > Controller IMO

And now that Rockstar said FU to sony and released everything for Xbox.. whats the point of the ps2 anymore?

Re:Sony PSX ( the new playstation) The Random/Onyx thread
 

xbox execs suck.. they havent been able to get exculsives on anything I want to play since the creation of the system.. hard ware is ---- with out "only on" system games.

-CF

Re:Sony PSX ( the new playstation) The Random/Onyx thread
 

All anybody needs is an xbox and Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2004...

Re:Sony PSX ( the new playstation) The Random/Onyx thread
 

Gamecube Owns:P

Re:Sony PSX ( the new playstation) The Random/Onyx thread
 

I would guess thats due to the fact that even tho ps2 is the 'lesser' system, theres about 20 more million of them in households right now.

Re:Sony PSX ( the new playstation) The Random/Onyx thread
 

that's pretty, is that actually yours? they only made a few thousand of those.

yeah, we should all shoot up drugs and work out instead huh? you're more and more of a dick everyday

Re:Sony PSX ( the new playstation) The Random/Onyx thread
 

To each his own He's entitled to his opinion just like you