Chris Harris

The fact they just ignored you after receiving the car is what pisses me off, and then make claims of "everything has to be redone."

You have learned a valuable lesson here Weir...do be so fucken nice!

Do Work...Get Paid! (before the work leaves your premises)

I don't care how good of an opportunity it is, how good of a friend they are to you...etc, you get paid before they get their car back.

turbob16hatch

i find it funny that "everything" had to be redoen after they made new motor mounts to locate the motor higher . lol of course it won't fit, DUR....

also they said the headers wouldn't fit a RHD car DUR, the steering shaft is on the other side, how would that work? ------- retards

and the best by far, "the manifolds where unequal length and would cause problems tuning"?

wtf? really i mean how much longer/shorter are the runners?

btw: the same thing happened to me when i sold a car, had to track the kid down and steal/repo my ---- back. ------- scammers

listen

alright, listen you clowns

if you would just stop sucking aarons dick for FIVE minutes, you would realize there are, AS ALWAYS, two sides to this story. im not saying aaron is 100% to blame here. he's not. but this witchhunt against pur auto is ------- ridiculous and it only goes against aaron, and especially against HMT. every board you retards posted on sees right through your juvenile, "im a fuckn internet superstar OG", tactics. its not gonna get you anywhere. its especially not going to get aaron anywhere in this matter.

so cut the crap for a few minutes and listen to a goddamn reasonable explanation that recognizes both parties responsible for this fucked up situation. like i just said, aaron is not 100% to blame. but he is partially to blame. pur is also partially to blame. but not 100% to blame as you would all love to think.

i repeat, aaron is not beyond blame in this situation.

ive read both versions of the story and i can already see there are elements missing that aaron conveniently forgot to mention in his post.


aaron is a very decent welder but by no means is he a professional fabricator. his welds look pretty and im sure they hold up strongly but they certainly are not world class. get over it. he also doesnt have any welding certificates or tickets to back up his work. i know, a lot of people say certs are bullshit-- but when its your fuckn business, they mean at least something, if not everything.

regardless...

the headers look okay sitting by themselves, off the car. the mounts.. well they dont look particularly great but im sure theyd work fine if they fit properly. but they dont fit.

NEITHER of the items FIT as required. there is no real excuse for this. saying "i wasnt given enough direction" is bullshit. they paid him to do the fabricating. when you ask $5000 for your work, you better make sure the items fit. i dont see how aaron can avoid responsibility for this.

aaron wasnt being paid to bend and weld some pipes to a collector. he was being paid to make sure the item FIT TO SPEC.

this means making engine mounts that MATCH so that the engine sits LEVEL. why is everyone overlooking this fact? this isnt a small oversight. this is the ------- core of the issue.

the engine mounts that aaron fabricated look like this:




they aren't equal and therefore make the engine sit TILTED, which isnt what was requested. maybe this wasnt made clear enough, but it was assumed that aaron realized, as a fabricator of engine mounts, that the v8 needed to be level. so the mounts were supposed to be equal. they werent.




also, by showing each header indvididually, aaron conveniently didnt show you the warp in the flanges (and the different flange thicknesses...).





so why is PUR supposed to pay aaron full price for a product that does not work?

they have already paid half the balance, $2500, in GOOD FAITH, assuming the work would be redone to spec. this hasnt happened. they gave up on the chance of that happening.




pur doesnt go around scamming people or trying to rip people off. they wanted to outsource some fabrication, like any shop might do, because of time constraints. they gave credit to aaron, perhaps where it wasnt due. this was their fault for not checking to make sure aaron could do what he said he could.

also there was obviously a fuckn lack of communication that did nothing to resolve the issue. both sides got butthurt and now HMT thinks pur tried to rape aaron and that theyre some kind of scam artists. definitely not the case.

aaron is not a scam artist either. nobody thinks that. he obviously didnt mean to ---- up the situation. but now it's gone so far that neither sides are talking ..

and now there are ------- witchhunts and HMT tardlings trying to serve some kind of street justice.. without hearing both sides.

in other words, HMT JUMPED TO CONCLUSIONS.

for the record, aaron is not a welding god. he's not jesus' own fabricator. he might be your god... and thats fine. enjoy him. more power to you.

BUT, all your attempts to spam message boards and fill up voicemails and whatever other parts of your crusade... these actions are only hurting aaron. and theyre also hurting you, HMT (as if you give a ----, i know, i know).

people are attributing your stupidity to aaron, and thats not fair either. aaron didnt start the spam but a lot of people on those boards think it was him that initiated the posts. i know better, obviously, and i dont hold it against aaron.

i dont want to see aarons reputation ruined. i also dont want to see pur's reputation ruined.

both sides are saying neither contacted the other to no answer. i dont know anything about that.. so i cant speak to that. i wasnt there. both sides are saying the other guy is 100% at fault. not true.

both parties are at fault. neither parties are scammers-- both are trying to build solid reputations and neither deserves to get a trial by fire without knowing both sides.

this whole HMT crusade against pur is retarded and its only making things worse, and not just for pur. but for aaron's reptuation in southern ontario as well.

people should learn how business runs before letting their mouths run.

thanks for listening

beaker

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Smith-02

honestly, i find it hard to believe that aaron would overlook such a simple fabricaton. left and right motor mounts do exist, where is your proof that THOSE motor mounts make it crooked/off-angle, AND were made by him? and 1/4" header flanges? doesn't even look like the flanges he uses. it's too mild steel of a color

stenseltizm

Weir backs his ---- up for life if there is a problem, period.

They weren't happy with ---- then they should had him fix it, not jsut stiff him the bill, thats wrong. With fabrication where you are letting someone interpret what you want, you shouldn't expect not to pay if you want their interpretation changed. I've run into this problem in my business. You want something to a T, you design it and give drawings, written directions, something. You don't and end up not liking their interpretation, expect to eat some extra cost when it gets changed.

I've heard of people holding payment while ---- gets fixed, not saying it's right, but you mention nothing of that anyway.

Pay your ------- bills

txdohczc

in response to listen go read some ---- about pur hmt did not give pur a bad rep when ---- was posted alot of people not involved already said the guys is an *** hole and his buissness is a joke so it was not hmt. yes we did let people know but they already knew. no i talked to about pur auto was suprised he did that because of his previous attempts at owning a buissness

txdohczc

awsome work as always jh

BigBird

Sounds to me like PUR sent Aaron a car with an engine laying in the engine bay and said yup that's where it should be build some mounts for it. And he did just that.

Chris Harris

no one is sucking dick here except for you...

PUR (pun intended) and simple fact is that Aaron was taken advantage of. He is too nice (that is his fault) and he charges too little (again his fault) and this let *** clowns like PUR get away with fraud.