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con 01-06-2007 11:02 PM

somebody talk to me about the old subaru legacy turbos
 
I have had a couple in the shop over the years but never really paid attention to them much. I need a dd/family/death machine. I know I have seen wagons and sedans, I would like to find a sedan 5spd. Tell me all you know, mods, performance, specs ect.

88dx 01-06-2007 11:19 PM

Re: somebody talk to me about the old subaru legacy turbos
 
How old u talking? the early 90's ish Non IC turbo legacys are worthless, and leak like crazy :3

Headgaskets>subaru

con 01-07-2007 12:22 AM

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that would be the one, so the buy cheap, install big turbo and run big boost plan wont work? :P

HondaTuner 01-07-2007 12:23 AM

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https://i6.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/82/37/3bc2_1.JPG

This is local, I'd like to boost it ;)

bitchasscracker 01-07-2007 12:23 AM

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i think there cool some dude on here had a non turbo and put a dual supercharger on it about 6 months ago

88dx 01-07-2007 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by highroller54
that would be the one, so the buy cheap, install big turbo and run big boost plan wont work? :P

That works. Or u could buy a Honda put a big turbo on it run lots of boost, crack a ringland and it will sound the same :P

con 01-07-2007 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 88dx
That works. Or u could buy a Honda put a big turbo on it run lots of boost, crack a ringland and it will sound the same :P

haha, already have that :D.

I would never boost one, it must be factory turbo. :y

stillnoturbo 01-07-2007 12:57 AM

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The motor in those older turbo'd legacys are about as stout as they come. You should see the demand for those. I kid you not. It's pretty much the next best thing to like a STI engine as far as blocks go. They can take boost like ho takes cock. Do a search for EJ22T. 8) I like sube's but the legacy isn't that pretty to look at and I'm a shorter guy and the car felt huge and I could move the seat all the way foward and still felt like I was tippe toeing to reach the pedals.

HondaTuner 01-07-2007 01:00 AM

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The one I pictured is only $300 with a newer engine... maybe it might ne a good project

And I'm a taller guy so it might feel fine for me haha

Tom-Guy 01-07-2007 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 88dx
How old u talking? the early 90's ish Non IC turbo legacys are worthless, and leak like crazy :3

Headgaskets>subaru

Are you hopped up on cock? EJ22 are indestructible, and what feels like a 15 second grandma car can be taken WOT up steep ass washed out driveways at 35-40 mph when a stock Honduh would be bouncing around and losing surface contact at 10 mph. You're thinking the older EA82T when you say leaks oil and worthless.

I'm not a big Scoobie fan, but for you to not know the difference makes me wish you get fisted by multiple large gay men. :3

PS - EJ12 and ER27 are my fav Scoobie engines. :6

88dx 01-07-2007 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Are you hopped up on cock? EJ22 are indestructible, and what feels like a 15 second grandma car can be taken WOT up steep ass washed out driveways at 35-40 mph when a stock Honduh would be bouncing around and losing surface contact at 10 mph. You're thinking the older EA82T when you say leaks oil and worthless.

I'm not a big Scoobie fan, but for you to not know the difference makes me wish you get fisted by multiple large gay men. :3

PS - EJ12 and ER27 are my fav Scoobie engines. :6

Any motor can be indestructible at the power those things have. All EJ22's leak Valve covers, oil pump, cam/crank seals.The newer subaru stuff is getting a lot better but their early stuff sucked.


90dx 01-07-2007 03:40 AM

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A local here who was a tuner and owned a dyno had a mid 80's Subaru turbo which he fabbed a mani for,GT28R,Holley pro jection,custom top mount intercooler etc etc.It looked like a flaming pile of ---- on the outside but it actually went pretty good.It was laggy as ---- due to the 8-1 or lower compression but made some half decent torque.I think he got it to run a low 14 wheel hopping like a bastard.I will try to find some pics for you the fab work under the hood was beautiful as he is a A or B ticket welder and pro with the tig.

Tom-Guy 01-07-2007 08:23 AM

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88, I did fleet maintanence on a pile of first gen Legacy back a decade ago. At 200 to 300K they were nothing like you are describing. 90, EA82 spool late because they make LS look like a good cam design. I've seen dynos of 20 wtq gains in the midrange from cam swaps and the car still idles stock.

con 01-07-2007 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis

PS - EJ12 and ER27 are my fav Scoobie engines. :6

isnt the ej12 the 1.2l 3cyl justy motor ???


Originally Posted by stillnoturbo
They can take boost like ho takes cock.

See now this is better news, yes there fugly as ---- but I will asume the have forged rods and pistons and for a winter death machine how could you go wrong? FMIC bigger turbo 15 psi awd and flat black battle paint. Sounds like a army of one to me O0

Tom-Guy 01-07-2007 11:28 AM

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You never saw the Turbo Justy? EJ12 rods make GSR look -----, and they don't have a revlimiter because they don't need one. 8K makes peoples eyes bug out in a Justy.

con 01-07-2007 11:41 AM

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NO I most surly did not, factory turbo or something someone built? Pics? I'm rocking a 91 sprint right now with the 1.0l 3cyl, they are both suzuki engines I think, so it would be similer? This car makes me want to kill myself though, but for 100.00, 3 exhaust valves and a head set its alright. I have seen a awd justy that was not like ours but based on the sprint/swift body with subaru badges from europe or some ----.

Slo_crx1 01-07-2007 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 88dx
Any motor can be indestructible at the power those things have. All EJ22's leak Valve covers, oil pump, cam/crank seals.The newer subaru stuff is getting a lot better but their early stuff sucked.


I wouldn't go that far...ej22t's are solid motors with solid deck type designs, but good luck trying to find one stateside in a legacy...wrx only. The standard ej22 non-turbo models are alright, but they have the same basic block design as the notorious ej25's...open deck, weak cylinders and such, not to mention only sohc with shitty cam profiles. EJ25's from the late 90's are junk through and through (just fixed an ej25 in my 97 legacy gt...makes working on hondas look like masterbating), with 90% of them having blown headgaskets due to shitty factory designs and composite material. Newer replacement gaskets for them are now all MLS gaskets, so that issue is taken care of for the most part, although there are reports of newer designed ej25's (2000+) having the same overheating and HG issues. The EJ series is nice in the compatability factor, you can swap parts and heads etc. around like honda D and B series. Downside if doing timing belts of dohc EJ's...horizontal engines with 4 cam sprockets and a multitude of tensioners are a nightmare.

con 01-07-2007 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by slo_crx1
ej22t's are solid motors with solid deck type designs, but good luck trying to find one stateside in a legacy...wrx only.

isn't that what this ---- wagon would have?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1993-...68323473QQrdZ1

con 01-07-2007 01:16 PM

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http://www.surrealmirage.com/subaru/...rads_subie.jpg

:6

stillnoturbo 01-07-2007 01:37 PM

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Dude the EJ22T came in all the 91-94 BC6/BF6 turbo legacies you fuckface. Get your ---- strizzaight. Not to mention they have VLSD rear diffs also and thats a bonus too. The internals are good up to 350crank hp being the forged rods and super low compression pistons(8.0 to 1). The numbers it puts out is crazy for a turbo'd 2.2L engine then again it's nonintercooled and only pushing like 7-8psi so it's rather conservative for the reliability point of view for the manufacturer. Now toss a FMIC or hell just a WRX or STI TMIC and you should see some better numbers. Also the tranny in the turbo model is alot stronger then the NA tranny. I drove a legacy wagon and good god that fucker was HUGE! My wife's chevy venture felt like the same size as that thing seriously. My wife works for the city and the police department are going to be getting rid of their meter maid RHD legacy for dirt cheap(under 2g's). EJ20TT are under 1g on ebay all the time and came in the Legacy's stock. The EJ20TT won't work with in the USDM Legacy.

con 01-07-2007 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by stillnoturbo
the EJ22T came in all the 91-94 BC6/BF6 turbo legacis. .Not to mention they have VLSD rear diffs also and thats a bonus too. The internals are good up to 350crank hp

Highrollers getting excited :y

hondaunlimited 01-07-2007 03:05 PM

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Goddamit!! i want an STI!!!!!!

88dx 01-07-2007 03:45 PM

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Buy a older Turbo Volvo wagon :6

fearsomedan 01-07-2007 05:15 PM

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I actually own a 93 legacy turbo. It's my DD. It's stock, but I did install a wrx topmount intercooler, a mbc, a msd dis 2 ignition, a modded 1g bov, and a homemade fuel cut defender. The stock computer fuel cuts at 13.7 psi. I'm running 16 lbs of boost, but its an automatic and i believe that any higher boost with these turbos would excede their efficiency limits. They are very small. These blocks are very good because of their closed deck design and their factory forged cranks and rods, but the pistons are cast, hence the low compression. The drawback to these motors are the heads. I believe that they are only good for a little over 300 hp. Most people do swap the heads for newer NA heads. It does leak oil out the valve cover, the cam seals and the crank seal. Maybe one day I'll fix it. The transmission shifts nice and firm, surprising for a factory automatic. My last run was a 14.9 but that was a while ago. Being my everyday car, I just put gas in it and go.

Ravage70 01-07-2007 05:18 PM

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auto tranies on those things are weak and the body loves rust
I used to know a buddy that had one, that turbo gives you good torque on the freeway

con 01-07-2007 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by fearsomedan
I actually own a 93 legacy turbo. I did install a homemade fuel cut defender.

Your talking my language, tell me more about the fuel cut bullshit and I want pics of this beast god damit >:D

88dx 01-07-2007 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by fearsomedan
I actually own a 93 legacy turbo. It's my DD. It's stock, but I did install a wrx topmount intercooler, a mbc, a msd dis 2 ignition, a modded 1g bov, and a homemade fuel cut defender. The stock computer fuel cuts at 13.7 psi. I'm running 16 lbs of boost, but its an automatic and i believe that any higher boost with these turbos would excede their efficiency limits. They are very small. These blocks are very good because of their closed deck design and their factory forged cranks and rods, but the pistons are cast, hence the low compression. The drawback to these motors are the heads. I believe that they are only good for a little over 300 hp. Most people do swap the heads for newer NA heads. It does leak oil out the valve cover, the cam seals and the crank seal. Maybe one day I'll fix it. The transmission shifts nice and firm, surprising for a factory automatic. My last run was a 14.9 but that was a while ago. Being my everyday car, I just put gas in it and go.

You replace any wheel bearings on it yet? :P

con 01-07-2007 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 88dx
You replace any wheel bearings on it yet? :P

I ------- hate those rear ones that have the 12 inch long bolt that siezes all up with 3 ------- seals on the bearings. The first one I did, I did it in car so I didn't have to ---- with the bolt but you cant change the inner seals like that and it piled up in no time :6

greenbomber 01-07-2007 07:51 PM

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I've been driving a Legacy L for a couple of weeks. When my mom was driving it, the only problem she had was the CV joints, they seemed start clicking all the time. The passenger side is going out right now. other than that the subie is a beast. NO other problem with 160k on it.

juli0_bustamante 01-07-2007 07:58 PM

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i say go with a 95-99 LEgacy wagon. Im not sure if they were available with factory turbos but i know they have the 5 speeds in that year and im sure you could swap over some turbo parts from a JDM ej. Hope that helps. I kinda want one too as a DD. Seen one not to long ago in a black paint scheme with The STI gold wheels. it looked nice.

Ill find a pic and post

88dx 01-07-2007 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by highroller54
I ------- hate those rear ones that have the 12 inch long bolt that siezes all up with 3 ------- seals on the bearings. The first one I did, I did it in car so I didn't have to ---- with the bolt but you cant change the inner seals like that and it piled up in no time :6

we just stock those bolts and cut/replace them ;)

juli0_bustamante 01-07-2007 08:00 PM

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https://kijiji.ebayimg.com/i7/03/i/0...41/7269_20.JPG

juli0_bustamante 01-07-2007 08:01 PM

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https://kijiji.ebayimg.com/i20/02/i/08/e9/e2/fe_20.JPG
https://kijiji.ebayimg.com/i19/01/i/...41/74c7_20.JPG

juli0_bustamante 01-07-2007 08:05 PM

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found some more the year you want

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...729_8_full.jpg

looks OK minus y=the F&F front Bumper
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...729_4_full.jpg

88dx 01-07-2007 08:26 PM

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U guys are getting old if you like the looks of those :-*

HondaTuner 01-07-2007 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by julio_bOOstamante

I love those wagons :y


Originally Posted by 88dx
U guys are getting old if you like the looks of those :-*

In that case I've been old for years :l

con 01-07-2007 08:42 PM

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this is what I want

http://www.thawa.net/gallery2/d/2605...9small_001.jpg

http://www.thawa.net/gallery2/d/2608...3small_001.jpg

http://www.thawa.net/gallery2/d/2613-1/Dsc02781_001.jpg



hondaunlimited 01-07-2007 08:50 PM

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id also want a 2002 legacy sedan 2.5 GT. drove one at shwabbs and it handled awesome

Tough-guy 01-07-2007 09:01 PM

Re: somebody talk to me about the old subaru legacy turbos
 
The RBH52's that came on some of the early 90's legaceys were pretty sizeable.

stillnoturbo 01-07-2007 11:09 PM

Re: somebody talk to me about the old subaru legacy turbos
 
I like the 2000+ Legacies but the only legacies only came turbo'd in the 91-94 and then stopped until the current model Legacies are also turbo'd. Nothing in 95-99 legacies in the US were turbo'd. That model introduced the twin turbo boxer EJ20TT everywhere else but here.


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