SOHC Busting 11's. Whats It Take?
 

Ive basically been hyping myself up a lot of this weekend. Setting up what Im going to buy and everything, thinking of the setup.But I want a little help first

My goal is 11's. I dont care if its an 11.99, my goal is 11's.

I used to have a 94 Prelude, H22 swap running on a 80 shot direct port, street tires running 13.2-13.4 depending on traction

Just wonderring what it takes to make a single cam break 11's, smaller turbos?

I plan on getting either a t3 .60/.63 or some sort of t3/t4, but was thinking a smaller turbo might be best for 1/4mile passes

I have a good bit of money for this, will be a built sohc zc, nice cam, intake mani, srp pistons and crower rods, Log mani and most likely somewhere between 16-20psi. Whatever I can get out of 93 octane and 9.8:1 compression.

Ill also def be running slicks at the track and most likely a Quaiffe LSD

Just looking for some help

Steve

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Refer to my sig, just go with an LS/Vtec :-*

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for that Id say go t3/t4 or look into precision, like an sc50 or something.

that setup with a gm 3bar and uberdata should be able to lay down 350whp easy, which should put you where you wanna be fairly easily if you can drive.

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Do you want full interior? Taking out your interior would help alot but that wouldn't mean ---- if you wanted a daily driven car.

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oh go join honda-tech. :-*

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11's with a Turd manifold... ---- man... if your spending a good deal of money... dont skimp out... I need to lose 50lbs, get a perfect RT, gut my car. swap in a bigger turbo, and maybe a little juice and if im lucky on a good day i would like to hit 12's....

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Yeah the car is daily driven, but I think with the higher compression and availability of 93 octane would be alright.

Fook, youre pointing out high hp turbos. Would they not lag a lot and not make a lot of power or atleast useable power until 3rd gear and up?

I also would be using Turboedit. xenocron lives like 3 hours north of me so Id take him up on some street tuning

LSD and slicks will help of course

And I dont know if I can drive. My h22 n20 was putting down maybe 250hp and that was pretty easy off of the bottle but on it I spun quite a bit because I wasnt totally used to it

Ive never driven nor have a seen an aftermarket boosted car

Thanks

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you could spin a precision sc34 or something of the like fairly well, turbo lag isnt such a bad thing, going too small can hold you back

also, being able to drive well on the track is just a matter of practice.

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I actually found a good deal on a straight T3 .60/.63 off of a thunderbird or whatever. Looks pretty nice, was just rebuilt, guy only wants $150. If I could buy a cheap turbo I could buy another guys ramhorn manifold

I just wanna know if 11's are possible, pretend I can drive well, .60/.63 @ 18psi, 22" slicks, lsd and a 3" exhaust....

If I dont hit 11's after spending $2500 (my budget) Ill quit and start saving again for school

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its possible... but hard i would say.

i dont think you will go 11.999999 with that turbo @ 18psi...

you need a bigger turbo...

you need to make 350whp or so to run a 11 in a really light car ~2000 pounds.

jeffs ls/vtec made what around 300whp? he ran 12.4 i think was his best. in a crx.

i dunno for sure but i know that you'll need a light car.

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Just don't buy stupid ---- and you'll be ok. Those slicks should help out quite a bit I would think. Make sure you rear supension is kinda stiff. You want all the power on the front wheels for the launch. Yeah just don't do anything half assed.

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It's gonna take about 300whp in a 2000lb car. So how to do that in a single cam is going to be tough. Obviously your going to need a pretty decently sized turbo, I wouldnt even try working with a Straight t3. A Hybrid t3/t4 turbo is definatly a must with a nice tubular manifold. Rods/Pistons a good flowing head and decent cam should be good for engine work. A good clutch 6puk or better including a lsd for the trans. A big set of slicks and all tuned you might get yourself a 11 sec slip.

Good luck

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okay so i was a lil high on the horsepower, but 50 more would make it easier :p

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It would probably end up being cheaper with a b series.

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You want the truth d series has some major flaws. One being the trans are very weak I have a grveyard of them. Next axles. Then 22 inch slicks are way to small for 300 whp. 24.5 is the way to go. Good Luck and hope you have a nice savings account

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Sell your car and buy a first gen crx hf... lightest civic ever

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i've seen a 310whp z6 bustin 11.7's on drag radials in an eg, also seen an eg run a 12.1 with 250whp on 20" slicks. it's very possible and not as hard as everyone makes it out to be, as long as you have the cash.

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damn son, go ls/vtec refer to the sig

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All I see in the sig is a really skinny arm ::)

just kiddin man

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There used to be an EK hatchback gutted at the so cal track that was running 18psi on a d16z6 tuned with Accel DFI and he was running 11.40. Just put together the best parts you can and be happy with what you get.

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^^^^ that was my buddy, (the white one right?) he had a TON of $ in that car. He ended up rolling it on the freeway. :'(

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DFI thats old school management

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You mean DPFI? Haha I don't see anyone running 11's with that. I'm dying over here with only 2 injectors on my hatch :'( Need to swap that ---- out someday. Oh yeah, 1-Homemadeturbo.com sticker is all you need to run 11's ;)

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no dipshit

http://go.mrgasket.com/brands.aspx?BrandID=8

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fill the tank with 93, some octane booster and a little bit of coke, you know...the good stuff
you'll hit 9s :P

seriously though wouldn't it just be easier and more reliable too do a dual cam swap?

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abaz mentioned with a good cam...rods pistons and a t3/t4 hybrid turbo...well what i wanna know is if this is on stock sleeves...i myself with anything more than 15psi would run sleeves and a really good tune.

louie

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build up an f series

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WTF's up your ass? ::) I asked a simple question because I didn't know what he was reffering to. Oh yeah, thanks for the link...

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www.5thgencivic.com <his setup in a crx could hit 11s.

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I really don't think it would be that hard to hit 11's with a SOHC. I could probably run 11's if I bought some forged rods/pistons and got a slightly bigger turbo (I don't think my current t3 60 trim .60/.48 would get me 11's, but it might come close, mid to low 12's, maybe?).

I already have the slicks, LSD, clutch, exhaust, decent springs/shocks, motor mounts... The only thing I could think of I need is a good external WG and maybe some kind of 2 stage boost controller. I mean I am still on the stock d16z6 and I shouldn't have a problem running high 12's next time I go to the dragstrip, keep in mind this is a full interior coupe. My first time ever at the track on slicks I ran a 13.3 @ 102 mph, and I know I could do better than that now. My second time at the track I was on drag radials and ran a 13.4 @ 105 mph, both times I had the boost at 10psi and I plan on running 12-14psi next time I go.

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12.6!!!

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a 11 sec slip just isnt handed to you, it takes a good set of parts and decent driver. How important is reliabilty? When I'm at the track the last think I want to do is blow up my motor and bring it home to put another one in. So be sure this thing is tuned solid! A few gallons of 118 never hurts either ;)

The 300whp in the 2000lb car is normally a given 11 sec car. Some people can do it less, some people can do 9 sec passes on 350whp. It just depends on how the car is setup. Like I mentioned above, I'd definatly go with a nice aftermarket cam like a Gude. I'd do a nice custom sheet metal intake manifold (not a skunk2 im). I'd probably dish out the bucks for a Precision turbo too, but I'm sure a standard t3/t4e w/ a 57 or 60 trim should get you there too. I wouldnt go to low on the compression, probably 9.0 to 9.5ish. Set of eagle rods and CP/JE or Roller wave pistons are all really nice and can hold plenty of power you throw at them.

The Lsd and slicks are going to be your most important part, I think a nice set of 24.5in slicks with a Quaife lsd or maybe even one of those OBX lsd's since they seem to be holding up should be the way to go.

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you want nawz

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another cam

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---- you guys got me pumped, I think i might be able to hit an 11 sec slip myself now

Im using a T3 .60/.63, hotrex ramhorn, venom intake mani, 24" slicks, 9.6-8:1 compression, head fully worked, D16a6.

I just bought a direct port kit to. Was thinking of spraying a 50 shot or something.

Would you guys sugest going to a ball bearings or soemthing bigger? Im happy with the condition of my .60/.63, car is daily driven, maybe around 16-17psi

PUMPED!

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A Precision SC34 would be my choice for a built up D-series or maybe the Blowzilla T3/GT40 that cheapturbo offers, I've seen some single cams make some good power on those. If your thinking you want a ball bearing turbo turbonetics makes some decent hybrid BB's, or you could go with some of garrett GT stuff like a GT25r, but your looking at a grand for a brand new BB turbo.

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i still say nawz

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I wouldnt mind being able to use my DSM 450's the whole time though

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Ah, then welcome 144% duty cycle, because even though it can be done with 450's its simply not safe. My gf's car dynoed 350whp on 450's but I could sleep alot better at night after we replaced them out with some larger ones.