So i drove an SRT-4 last night.
 

Ok well first off i was not impressed. This ting rode like crap and it didnt seem to have much go. The boost guage was reading 14 psi and it felt like is was only pulling on 5psi. The one good thing was the seats were kick ass. Has anyone else driven one? was it weak on power? The one i drove was a skip barber racing school car. I know the beat on them alot however it only had 15,xxx miles on it. So it shouldnt be tired and weak yet should it? It handled pretty well just seem to have no go power is all? Im wondering if they are all like that or did i just drive one thats junk? The red on it was kinda crappy looking. The interior was ok i guess. The guages and ---- wer nice looking. The shift patern was tight but had a long throw i thought. So anyone else have inpt on this situation? I am just kind of curious is all.

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um mid 14 sec car ya there slow welcome to 3 years ago



hey guess what else so a wrx and sti's



a d in a crx/civic on 12 psi will own all these fag style cars

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Thats what i was thinking. My friends civic hatch is only running 12psi and it was pulling way harder than that srt did. I was so not impressed. Thats why i was asking about it. i guess i just expected more from the srt was all.

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low hp#'s hevay car simple not fast


All the srt style cars are piles imo and just a waste of money


sti and evo top the list 30K for well cars that are topped out not to mention the owners of these cars are 20 year old little clean cut self righteous simple minded fools who couldnt understand why or how that boost gauge moves

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Hey hey hey, wait a second there, 99.9 % of the Subaru and Evo owners are 20 year old little clean cut self righteous simple minded fools who couldnt understand why or how that boost gauge moves :-* :-* :-* :-*

There comes a point in life when you want something nicer and bigger. but you are right most kids buy the SRT-4s WRXs STIs and EVOs because they are turbo, they don't know anything else. Thay have no clue what makes the car go or faster, but they will bet their ass their car is fast because it is turbo.

My WRX was done right, but on the budget side. Car runs mid to low 12's but I still have all the comforts of a midsize car. Sure you can build a cheaper faster civic, but like I said, sometimes you want something nicer. Today 12's isn't holly ---- fast, but it is still enough to hang out and also beat a lot of people out there. But in the end I like the car because of me and how it drives, not because I beat this many people. I don't care what other people think.

SRT4's are nice cars, have a lot of potential. My brother-in-law had one, some ass t-boned him and totaled the car, he was running 13.9 stock. Not crazy fast, but with little upgrades, less than $1,000 you can hit 12's. In the end it is still a NEON, but they aren't that bad.

If you are looking for out of your seat, crap you pants fast, you won't find a factory spec 4 cylinder. Come on now, we don't mess around with cars because they are fast to begin with, we work on them to make them faster. It's fun stuff.

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Davcivic,

I agree with you.. i was just saying that iwas not impressed with it. i guess i just expected alot more from it is all.

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amen.

I doubt they'll come fast from the factory because they'll either be unreliable, or will be reliable and expensive, and I think the insurance on a "fast" 4 cylinder would cost a bit much for their target audience.

Also, I like that it helps to weed out the faggots that buy a fast car and think they're great even though they don't know a damn thing about how they work.

Anyways, it's a neon...yuck.

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Well as you can see in my sig, or if you are an OG I have a WRX. It ran a 14.9 stock, slow as balls, well 15's was fast about 4 years ago lol....., but like he just posted new cars have to deal with reliability and other issues. I don't know if you paid attention, but the neon will creep to 14 the dial down to 10 or 11 psi. Just changing the wastegate, will give you more constant power. Also my brother in law popped out the wastegate hose, the car ran low 13's boosting about 25psi. held fine. The cars are nice, but they have to keep some requirements from the factory.

Now you can weed out the gay owners when they keep it stock but just add rims and tints, to the ones that say ---- my bumper, they cut it all out and put a massive double sized intercooler in the front, that's one way to see, for the most part, who's serious about the car and who's not.

I think those SRT-4's will become the DSM's of now in the next 10 years. Cheap cars you can make fast easy.

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Are you guys kidding me?

You're seriously going to complain about a car that sells for 20k stock and will do low 14's outta the box? I know you guys are going to give me hell for this, but lets put this in perspective shall we? How much was the original msrp on most of your civics and accords? 13k 14k? I don't really know, but paying that much for a car that will go 16-17 seconds stock in the quarter mile doesn't exactly rev my engine. Now take the SRT- Yes the car that surrounds it is still an econobox just like a civic, but comes factory with a limited slip (after 03 anyway) comes with very supportive seats factory, factory boost gauge, and let's not forget, factory 2.4l turbocharged motor.

I don't know about you guys, but for the money, this car is a serious contender. I also don't know if you realize this, but that SRT block can take a hell of a pounding without changing internals. There are several guys right now who are making 450whp on the stock block. It's called potential people, and it's the same reason you build your civics, because there's cheap potential in them.

I agree with the comment that they'll be the new DSM in a few years. They'll be fairly cheap to pickup and you can make them wicked fast for a limited amount.

Don't bash on cars just because it's a "neon" or a domestic. If a car has the right pedigree, give it credit.

So many brand loyal idiots out there that think all other cars suck, they miss out on a lot of good vehicles, one thing you have to understand is that almost every car company gets it right sooner or later. except maybe kia

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Yes that's what I was saying......I will definately pick one up as a fun car later on when they sell for $4-$5k....which should be about 2 more years....lol....

but seriously, the only way you will get a fast 11-low 12 second factory car, you need to spend over 50k, maybe more. You can buy an SRT4 use mopar parts and keep your 7 year warranty on an car that has over 350hp and runs high to mid 12's.

Sure for some us us here, $20k, hell even $5k spent on a car is too much. But that doesn't mean the car is crap.

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Hm brand doesn't really matter to me, I've owned a chevy and two hondas and considered a nissan and toyota.

I just personally would rather buy a cheapass honda and beat the ---- out of it and know I can find parts or information easily if it does screw up. the warranty doesn't really mean much if you plan on getting better than stock power anyway.

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i drove one the other day when a guy asked us to install a hks bov on it to it can make that "swoosh" sounds and well its ok. CAr is ugly, the interior makes me want to puke, the seats look like pepboys specials, but it was fast for what the car is. i give it a 6

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srt4 > ctr itr

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why do you guys act like civics and ---- are nice on the inside stock.. shittiest interiors ever. crx si seats and ek ex seats arnt that bad. but eg seats suck dick, and so do ef seats, feels like you're driving a truck. not to mention stock civics are slow as ---- and the interior quality and the thickness of the metal on the body makes it feel like you could punch through the door. Civics are good at being light, being good on gas and reliable and have allot of aftermarket diy support and a huge community. thats about all they have going for them. The interior/ride quality isn't above par or anything. And the resale value is so high its not even worth buying 90% of them.

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Go ---- yourself :y

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Pretty much.

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yes it does, like I said before, if you buy the proven power adders from mopar/the dealer, you will retain your warranty 100%.

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honda never advertised US accords/civics as "racing" vehicles unlike dodge

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I'm not impressed by SRT-4's. My $2500 beater ass B16 CRX beats them out of the hole and depending on the mods can keep up or stay in front.

Observe:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8On96f17inQ

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i my ef with a b16 with i/h/e held alright with stock srt's after i installed a 75 shot i was eat'n stage 2's with mods by a few cars

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You guys forget that driver skills can affect the outcome of a race. I have raced and hanged out with modded STis, Civics, Evos even a few corvettes and a viper, but that doesn't mean the other guy knows how to drive or was actually trying.

Stock for Stock SRT4s>anything honda makes(except the NSX and maybe the type R)

If you start modding, then both cars have to be modded to be fair.

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hhaaa yes the neverending srt-4 debate. lets face it. its a factory turbo charged car. can be made fast but its still a ------- neon. any turbo car is cool in my book. but still, ---- neons. neon<turbo d

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It's got nothing to do with whats faster and everything to do with conspicuous consumption. these people dont want to drive around in a half rusted tin cans with vtak. They want an "Im young and better than you" car, not a car that leans twards the techincaly adept, and socialy apathetic people. It's 2 different styles of living and always will be. The latter being the better style of living.

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---- civics and shitty old hatches :S

srt4 = much more apealing than 89 civic hatches

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in MOST cases, depends on what your looking for in a car, thats all it boils down too

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I know that this isn't a very fair comparison since it would have to be a modified honda...

But I bet a honda with a 2.4l dohc turbocharged engine pushing 10psi with a conservative tune would beat the srt-4 and probably last longer. Not to mention look better (depending on the car).

Unfortunately honda company is a buncha pussies.

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srt-4's are for ------- faggots who dont know ---- or dont want to do ---- to make there car fast. They buy them and say, yea i got an srt-4. Yea they might be more appealing but whats more fun tearing up a hatch and blowing a d series motor and thinking yea im out 200 or blowing up an srt-4 motor and saying damn, i still got a car payment on this NEON.

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i agree with rawr tho on the living type.

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lol probably only in the quarter mile. But i'm sure if you took a survey people would chose the ctr/itr over the srt4. I'm sure some srt4 owners would rather have the ctr/itr over their neon :6

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I hate srt-4s... everyone in the antelope valley where i live thinks there the ---- for having one and there unstopable! there are about a group of 3 srt-4s out here that all are over 400whp one is even like 600+ and they still cant get the car out of the 12s.... My civic when it was on 8 psi barely lost to a srt-4 with stock turbo on 20psi by maybe a car or so... My homie has a srt-4 with a 60-1, 20psi and a 75shot and slicks and still hasent hit 12s... on the street it beats most 12 second cars but its not faster then maybe a mid 12.. A stripped civic d series civic on 10-12 psi could do that with ease... wtf...

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Yo MaY CiViZ CuLd BeAt a SrT4 RuNNiN TweNtY PsiZ CuZ DeY Iz NeoNSz

funny you say most people can't get their srt4 out of the 12s. most people can't get their turbo civics out of the 14s

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http://www.japancar.be/creations/rokusho/civic.jpg

its still a civic, and it still runs 17s :)

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here we go again. I bet it gets a zillion miles per gallon too. ::)

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i think there cool because there turbo and have nice seats, but dodge build quality is not good, and honda builds stuff well (edit-except there beer-can bodys, make em like saturns and they would be the ----). when i want to be fast i get on my 600cc honda that makes 110hp and runs 10s out the box with a tard driving it

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dodge makes a motocycle with the viper motor on it that'll ---- on your bike :P

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dodge is retarded and i dont think they built that. it probly leaks oil from the factory like vipers too

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They did build it, but you can't ride it, it's for show purposes only.

Holy crap I can't believe people are still making this a discussion. There's no questions here people. The car is fast stock, cheap, and upgradeable. only ONE of which your civic qualifies for.

I love the excuse, yeah but it's still just a neon, do you people have any clue how many people use that excuse when talking about your civics? and don't even tell me that you'd still be rocking your d series civic if someone gave you the keys to one of these things right now for free.

And to all the other morons out there saying that they can't get out of the 12's even with tons of power. People, that's the driver's fault, not the car! and since when did 12's become slow for a 4 cylinder? There isn't another car out there right now for the price that can match the srt for power. (except maybe the new mazda 3 that's coming out with the mazdaspeed 276hp motor with AWD) and I love how you conveniently pass over the other positive aspects I mentioned.

Stop hating simply because you don't like them, respect the fact that a car company had the balls to make a car this good for this price. Look at the new civic Si and tell me that's a better deal right now.

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SRT4 and turbo civic have two completely different feels. SRT4 is going to be a more linear powerband due to their turbo combo with their engine. 2.4L engine with that small of a turbo you will not get that "turbo kick" at all due to the fact its going to spool almost right away and make all its power in the midrange, and die off in the top end. All factory turbo cars are midrange minded. None will feel like a typical turbo honda as all of them are 4-8krpm powerband with oversized turbos that make you really feel the turbo kick in. Look at a typical Honda dyno. Its nothing, nothing, nothing, and then the torque curve just yanks up and flattens out. Thats the "turbo kick". You won't see that on a typical OEM car because that kick can cause all sorts of uncontrollable situations. If you put a decent sized turbo on a SRT4, it will move. To put things in perspective, the stock turbo on a SRT4 is like putting a T25 or K03 on your D-series.

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i will tell you that i'd rather rock my civic if they gave one to me for free. I'd take it and then sell it. I wouldn't be caught dead driving a ------- neon. I just prefer to drive my japanese econobox over that american piece of ----. /thread