Re: Seirously running off water, no petrol, 700% gain in energy
 

You're just specificly searching for biased webpages.

Re: Seirously running off water, no petrol, 700% gain in energy
 

Alright, I'm not going to argue with you about this.

It is physically impossible

Here, read this wikipedia discussion:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Water_fuel_cell
Who sounds like they know what they are talking about, and who sounds like "I WANtZ to RUN a KAr offa DEE WAterZ. ThatS sWeet. Black KHELICPTR gov't dun MURDURd a JENiuz, yO!"

Re: Seirously running off water, no petrol, 700% gain in energy
 

Thats relative to your point of veiw, now isn't it. I dont see these people arguing aginst the idea replicating his process and proving it wrong.

Re: Seirously running off water, no petrol, 700% gain in energy
 

i don;t see what the grounds for augument here is, the idea of hydrogen powered cars has been around for a while, since water contains hydrogen and oxygen wouldn't you assume that it would be an ideal source of fuel for such a vehicle?

also that video i posted shows a different use of water turning into some type of gas called hho, i havent' got around to reading into it much but it seems like a pretty cool idea.

Re: Seirously running off water, no petrol, 700% gain in energy
 

You can split water into hydrogen and oxygen. It takes energy to split the hydrogen-oxygen bond. It takes more energy to split the bond, than you get from burning the resulting hydrogen and oxygen. This is basic 9th grade chemistry. As stated by the laws of thermodynamics... ie, the way ---- works in reality.

Re: Seirously running off water, no petrol, 700% gain in energy
 

i got this from http://www.dangerouslaboratories.org/h2homesystem.pdf
its hydrogen elecrolysys using solor energy

How Much Power Does It Take?
A cubic meter (35.3 cubic feet) of hydrogen gas takes
about 5.9 hours to produce in this electrolyzer, when
operated at its rated input power of 1000 Watts. This
means the energy required to produce a cubic meter of
hydrogen and 0.5 cubic meter of oxygen is about 5.9
kW-hr. This translates to an efficiency of 51%, where 3
kW-hr/m3 equals 100% efficiency at 20°C. Typical
industrial scale plants operate at about 4.5 kW-hr/m3 or
67% efficiency at high current density. The efficiency is
better at lower current density.

Re: Seirously running off water, no petrol, 700% gain in energy
 

Re: Seirously running off water, no petrol, 700% gain in energy
 

These "laws" of thermodynamics that you speak of arent actually laws at all. They are axioms. They can only be proven by expirimentation and therefore arent really laws...more or less just what we have learned from the past and they have become the fundamentals of thermodynamics. :o None of the laws are actually able to be "proved."

Re: Seirously running off water, no petrol, 700% gain in energy
 

So a guy with a bunch of cobbled together tubing and some service-grade $7/per pressure gauges from Grainger.com is going to be able to sidestep limits of physics as we know them, from the comfort of his own backyard?

That's nice.

Re: Seirously running off water, no petrol, 700% gain in energy
 

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