Scion tC
 

Just wanted to get your opinion on this car. I know this is HMT but was looking to see if anyone might have had some experience with it. For the price I think its a good buy considering all of the goodies...

This car is not for me and is actually for a female driver. I would love to turbo it considering it does have a 2.4L 4-cylinder engine with 9.5:1 CR (160hp/163lbs-torque). 8) Just wanted to see what you guys think... I actually think it looks "aight"...

Tell me your thoughts.


*EDIT*: For the folks that dont know what it looks like...

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/06/sciontc05_01.jpg

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::HT thumbsdown::

http://images.honda-tech.com/set1/smile/emthdown.gif

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Those TC's are probably my pic out of the Scion lineup . Not sure on how well the engine will do with an FI setup on it in stock form, but with some research I'm sure it could be done safely. You thinking of getting one?

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I kind like them. :-\

Compare to a Civi Si and there really isn't much difference.
http://www.scion.com/drive/features/tc_specs.html

I also like the XB. :-[
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dont they have a supercharger option?

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u cant go wrong with a toyota engine if reliability is what ur looking for

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those things are ugliest peice of ---- ive ever seen. i would make fun of anyone for 500 years if they bought one.

leave the VANS with huge murals in japan and mexico (the xbs that is)

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motor trends words. ;)

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Really? I don't read Motor Trend, but it's true. :-\
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what a pig. Its almost 3000 pounds.

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New Civic Si hatch is 2800lbs.. :-\ all new cars are fat.

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Yes it does have a TRD supercharger option for like $3000 but I think thats pretty damn worthless considering its only adding 40hp. If I had the option I'd just turbo the sucker or throw on a shot of nitrous.

Anyhow, I know it weighs like 3100-3200lbs. And yes thats one hell of a pig. It by far is not a performance or sporty car. But this again is for a FEMALE driver. I'd like to get the opinions of those who have driven it and see how it did.

The engine is the 4-cylinder! ;D Camry engine. In my book Toyota engines are very reliable and good engines...

Planning on test driving one in the near future...

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Like I said, compare it to the Civic Si and there really isn't much difference.

Civic Si=2744 Torque=132@5000 HP=160@6500

Scion TC=2,905 Torque=163lb.-ft.@ 4,000 rpm HP=160 hp @ 5,700 rpm




2004 Civic Si:

Standard Engine
2.0L I4
Standard Transmission
5 Speed Manual
Cylinders
4
Horsepower @ RPM
160@6500
Fuel Economy Cty/Hwy
26 / 31
Combined Fuel Economy
28
EPA Class
Compact
Number of Valves
16
Torque @ RPM
132@5000
Fuel Type/System
Gas Engine / Multi-Port Fuel Injected
Turbo (yes/no)
No
Overdrive Transmission
Yes
Battery Output
N/A
Compression
9.8
Displacement
1998 / 122
Bore X Stroke
3.39x3.39
Cruising Range
369.6
Final Drive Gear Ratio Opt
N/A
Power To Weight Ratio
17.2
Final Drive Ratio
4.76
Valves Configuration
Dual Overhead Cam/Twin Overhead Cam
Supercharged
No
Electric HorsePower RPM
N/A
Electric Torque Feet Per Pound
N/A
Electric Torque RPM
N/A
Electric HorsePower BHP
N/A

Capacity & Volume
Cargo Volume (EPA)
16
Cargo Volume (MFR)
15.7
Fuel Capacity
13.2
Passenger Volume (EPA)
85
Passenger Volume (MFR)
84.7
Box/Cargo Height
N/A
Box/Cargo Length
N/A
Box/Cargo Width (Wheel)
N/A
Box/Cargo Width (Wall)
N/A
GVWR Standard
N/A
GVWR Maximum
N/A
Payload Standard
N/A
Payload Maximum
N/A
Brakes, Steering, Suspension & Tires
Brakes (Front)
Disc
Brakes (Rear)
Disc
Driveline
Front Wheel Drive
Driveline (Opt)
N/A
Steering
Rack & Pinion
Steering Diameter Left
34.8
Steering Diameter Right
34.8
Suspension (Front)
Independent
Suspension (Rear)
Independent
Tire Type
Passenger
Tire Width
205
Tire Aspect Ratio
55
Tire Construction
Radial
Tire Wheel Diameter
16
Interior Dimensions
Seating (Standard)
5
Seating (Optional)
N/A
Tow Capacity (Standard)
Not Listed
Tow Capacity (Maximum)
Not Listed
Headroom (Front)
37.8
Headroom (Row 2)
36.7
Hiproom (Front)
51.2
Hiproom (Row 2)
48.4
Legroom (Front)
42.2
Legroom (Row 2)
33.0
Shoulder Room (Front)
53.1
Shoulder Room (Row 2)
50.9
Seating (Maximum)
5
Headroom (Row 3)
N/A
Hiproom (Row 3)
N/A
Legroom (Row 3)
N/A
Shoulder Room (Row 3)
N/A
Exterior Dimensions & Weight
Curb Weight MT
2744
Curb Weight AT
N/A
Ground Clearance
Not Listed
Height
56.7
Length
165.8
Top Type (Standard)
Hard Fixed
Top Type (Optional)
Not Applicable
Track (Front)
57.9
Track (Rear)
57.9
Weight Distribution AT (Front)
N/A
Weight Distribution AT (Rear)
N/A
Weight Distribution MT (Front)
61
Weight Distribution MT (Rear)
39
Wheelbase
101.2
Width
66.7
Doors (Standard)
2
Doors (Maximum)
2

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Scion TC

Engine Double overhead cam (DOHC) 16-valve VVT-i 4-cylinder
Displacement 2.4 liters
Bore x stroke 88.5mm X 96mm
Compression ratio 9.6:1
Valvetrain Double overhead cam (DOHC) 16-valve with Variable Valve Timing with intelligence (VVT-i)
Induction system Multi-port EFI
Ignition system Electronic with Direct Ignition System (DIS)
Horsepower 160 hp @ 5,700 rpm
Torque 163 lb.-ft. @ 4,000 rpm
Transmission
5-speed manual overdrive Standard
4-speed electronically controlled transmission (ECT) Available
Suspension
Front MacPherson strut
Rear Double wishbone suspension
Steering Power assisted rack-and-pinion steering
Turning Circle 36.1 ft.
Brakes Power-assisted 4-wheel disk with Anti-Lock Brake System (ABS)
Exterior Dimensions (inches)
Overall height 55.7
Overall width 69.1
Overall length 174.0
Wheelbase 106.3
Track (front/rear) 59.3/59.3
Ground clearance 5.2
Interior Dimensions Front/Rear (inches)
Head Room 37.6/36.6
Shoulder Room 54.3/50.0
Hip Room 53.2/47.3
Leg Room 41.6/33.6
Passenger Volume (cu. ft.) 84.7
Cargo Volume (cu. ft.) 12.8
Seating Capacity 5
Weights and Capacities
Curb Weight (lbs.) 2,905/2,970 (manual/automatic)
Fuel Tank (gal.) 14.5
Tires P215/45ZR17 (All Season)
Spare Temporary
Mileage Estimates (MPG City / Highway)*
Manual 22/29
Automatic 23/30
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Re:Scion tC
 

Ya toyota is known for their faboulus V4 engines, lol ;)

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heh i think he meant 4 valve :p

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i bet the scion is faster than the si.

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the tc is the coupe buddy ;). My gf has one, i like the features and the looks overall, but it was only designed to look good. It has HORRIBLE visibility in every direction from the huge pillars, but is semi-fun to drive otherwise (mainly because the wheel is small and badass)

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So Im a lil tired right now! BITE ME! :-\

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Hey my brother's Suby Imprezza RS is a V4 ;) I got to get a sound clip of that beast. They sound like freaking V8's.

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exactly what I wanted to hear. Thanks ghetto.

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they're pancake 4s/boxter engines/flat 4s whatever you want to call em. not v shaped :p

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http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=sc...6/white_tc.jpg

Fat Pig that looks like a Accord coupe..

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i thought those were flat 4 boxer motors

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Just to let all of you know, the TRD supercharger only boosts it 4 psi out of the box. Hence only 40 additional horsepower. Up that ----.

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Guess they are :) Shows how much I know about anything but Honda's. I just saw 2 heads on either side and knew it was a 4 cyl.

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i had some guy get made @ me cause i asked how he got his shoebox road legal... he didnt apprecitate it. i dont like the tc's either

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i thought those was super charged?

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they are not supercharged but have the option to be for $3000 just like the other TRD cars/trucks.

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i kind of like them too. have only seen one or two in person and haven't test drove any. but out of the whole scion family i like the tc the best. the xb is just a hanous looking vehicle. the xa isn't quite as bad...just looks like a mini, mini van. :-\

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I think Rx7 said it best as far as their Mini van goes. lol

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i think the latest si looks like a mini-minivan

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Yes they are, that guy must be high or something. Subaru calls them H4, or H6 for the 6 cyl. They are flat and horizontally oposed for perfect balance.

I like the tC and also the xB. Toyota engines are awesome when it comes to reliability. I would buy it. I like the fact that this Scion line are made for the low end consumers, but they have a lot of features that other companies don't have on their low end cars. Like sunroof, cruise control, power windows, ++++. If Toyota is willing to sell as an option a supercharger and give you warranty with it, would tell us the engine can handle it. I saw one of these tC's at the dealer, and there is plenty of room for a nice turbo setup.

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That car doesn't look that bad. The front end looks real nice, but the back of the back window (that little chop off the back) is kinda bothering me. If honda was played out and someone was looking for something not so trendy to fix up, it'd be a good car. :-\



Boost, perfect execution of the [RS Mode on/} lol

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I found this for the Scion tC:

Performance
0 - 60 mph [secs] 7.4
0 - 100 mph [secs] 20.9
1/4 mile [secs at mph] 15.7 at 88.0
Top Speed [mph] 127
Lateral acceleration [g] 0.81
Fuel Economy [City/Hwy in mpg] 22 / 30

what about the si?

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buying a brand new car=meaning you're the first owner, 0 miles is way overated. tell your girl to get a 02 ex coupe
or an 03'scion if she likes it so much. you'll save thousands.

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This is all I could find, but I'm not sure how accurate it is?
0-60 mph 7.6sec.
1/4 Mile 15.9@87.8mph
Top Speed 132mph

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I saw a white one of these slammed on 19's HID headlights apexi fmic and n1 exhaust....if you ask me they have potential just a tad on the girly side.Anyhow the full car sunroof is gangsta as ----!

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I'd take a civic si hands down. So the stock motor is shitty. What stock motor in a civic isn't shitty that comes here to the US? It's a honda! Swap it! Just get a K20A and then how does that Scion tC look then with that supercharge option at 3000 plus the sticker price? The Si may be a lil' porker but what new car isn't these days! Hell look at how small the Mini Cooper is and how much that still weighs.
http://home.comcast.net/~davidmkang/Side_Angle_1.JPG
http://home.comcast.net/~davidmkang/Front_Angle.JPG

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^^^^I'd take the Scion over that car. :-\ That is the ugliest body style Honda has ever made. :-\ I'd be embarassed to drive that thing.

BTW, a K series swap isn't exactly "cheap".
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