RX-7 anyone?
 

Is there anyone out there that has NOT had a problem with the Mazda RX-7? It seems like that's all I hear is just bad things about them, and people seem to be talking down on them alot. I have a 95 civic d16z6 right now and I'm trying to sell it. There is a guy that is always coming into my work trying to get me to buy his RX-7(2nd generation). From the looks of things it looks pretty damn clean (I am yet to drive it though). All-in-all are they worth the trouble? Any advice would help out, 'cause I plan making this my daily driver.

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depends the year, how many miles, and how low hes willing to sell it for. they arent that bad n/a. but once you start doing modifications, the life expactrancy goes down quite a bit. also, its a good idea to rev them to redline once in a while to get everything de carboned ( as i heard from rx7 guys ). they aint that bad. plus, you could rebuild one in the time it takes you to change some pistons in a regaular car. so all in all, their about the same. changung the fluyids frequently is a must, plus, people seem to remove the oil metering pump, the oil injector lines and oil injectors doe to the fact they dont have a nice spray. so runing premix in a rotarie will greatly improve it.

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dont even say a word about spelling, bastards.

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I forgot what year he said it was...but it's a GXL with around 160,000. The guy that has it now is some local machanic, and from what I've heard he does pretty good work. He seems to think that the motor that is in it is not the original "considering the good condition it is in" (quote from him). I got a check list that is about 10 pages long from www.rx7club.com and hopefully it is in as good of condition as he says it is. Oh yea also he is selling it to me for $1,000, but he says to anyone else he'd have to let it go for $1,500. Maybe it is because i give him free refils, I don't know? (I work at a gas station called Quick Trip if you've ever heard of it)

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grab that ---- man for real!!!!!

gxl's are cool.

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I had an 87 GXL. I miss it, it was a damn good car. Ran a little hot and had the flooding problem, but you just have to know how to take care of a rotary. I'd buy another one anyday.

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I'll geterdone (yes hard to believe but that is all one word) Which RX-7 do you have?

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1986 gxl with 180k miles on it and it runs like a champ. just gotta make sure it dont flood.

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with 160K on it dont be suprised when it pops sometime soon ( if its the original motor).. but for $1000 thats not a bad deal if its clean..... and its a 5 speed. the auto rx7's are boring and worthless :-*

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The first thing I asked him was if it was a 5-speed or not. I hate it when my car is out for about a week and I have to drive my mom's car! That and when I take off in her car I try to put in the clutch to shift to 2nd and i hit the damn brake CAUSE THERE IS NO CLUTCH. We all have a good laugh about it though. ;D

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i`ve droved my friend 86 rx7 NA when my ---- brokn down.
ran a little hot going up hill and burn some oil under WOT, nothing major. that thing got almost no low end power but pulls dame great up high and that is the first time when i first drive a car and liked it that much :-*, planning to get a turbo one when i got $. ohohoh...not to mention how tail happy it is..make sure you get use to it b4 cornering any. :-X

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RX-7 are shitty pieces of ----, only ricers and geeks who arn't cool buy them.

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What on earth are you talking about? My neighbor has an 89 RX-7 (NA) and it kicks everyone's ass around here. The only kid I know who has beaten him had a hella modified 99 Civic Si (Rich kid with virtually no limit on money). He's putting the turbo RX-7 engine in soon, and my sis's bf is sticking a small block chevy (400) in the RX-7 he just got. They're not even close to being shitty cars.

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you must live in ------- mexico, if a na rx-7 is beating people around there, then everyone must drive nazi VWs. even with a street port and exhaust, hte NA-s are still 16 second cars. A stock turbo FC will run 15 seconds witha ok driver. To do any mods, I mean any mods at all to a RX-7 FC, first you need a rebuild (cause the motors tend to be shitty after 30 000 on the odometer) the after the rebuild, you NEED a standalone(haltech is a good unit) then you can start working on it, you also need a new rad cause you car will overheat with any mods(or even stock) if you do exhaust or almost anything to the NA, you gotta wire the secondaries open, and if you do anything to a Turbo II, then you gotta weld on a new wastegate flap and port the wastegate.
not to mention the stock injectors suck ass, absolute ass, they leak, they cause the rx-7 to flood, and with exhaust/intake/port you need bigger injectors.

all FC have a 3800 rpm stumble, they all flood, one ping and you blow your apex seals, the elctrical systems in them are ------- retarded, they get HORRIBLE HORRIBLE gas milage, are expensive to mod, they overheat like crazy, you need a full standalone to do anything, top mount intercoolers suck ass, and the oil squirters in them are even more gay so if you want them to last in a high HP situation, you have to run premixed like in a 2 stroke. they handle like ----, are not easy to drift, and they are basicly heavy POS.

they basicly suck ass, I have never owned one but from what I've read on rx-7 club, and from what my geeky ricer friends have had happen to them, I am absolutely sure they suck ass.

also, The FCs are ugly as ----, the turbo 2 hood scoop ain't even in the middle of the hood, it just looks fucked up, also, you will not pick up chicks in one either, trust me.


Now people who put v8s in them, thats pretty pathetic if you ask me, they FC will handle like even more ---- with a V8, they will get better gas milage, be more reliable and pretty much be a better car then a stock FC, but you could have a way better/reliable car if you just stuck the motor in an old mustang/camaro/muscle car.

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where did you get those 1/4 mile times from? if i got one the first thing i'd do is stick a fluidyne in it cause from the little bit i know heat=death for rotaries.

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it wont pop if you take good care of it and replace what needs to be replaced. also, most rotaries dont show any signs of them about to die. they simply die. your running fine, and compression is good, then, poof, you got a blown apex seal. but you can get an array of different apex seals and they will be customs for what you want. but after 18 years, mine is fine and is runing stong. but it is starting to flood so i should do a rebuild when i come back from greece. hopefully i would only need to change the ahpes and cide seals and oil and coolant seals and some gaskets and ill be fine for another 100k miles. and spenser, wtf are you talking about, if i put a streetport on my car, it will automatically go into the 15's. if i get an intake and a full exhaust, that would put me into the 14's... and most turbo ]['s run 14 to 15 secconds with slight modifications.

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kain...those 1/4 miles numbers look a little better. how much would that rebuild cost you? yea before i do any major performance parts on the car im going to clean it up real good and make it really dependable.

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There are plenty of rotary forums out there that you need to tap into, you're fucked if all the "good" advice you are getting is from kain. Spensor seems to be bitter towards them, some people are.

As I recall, a sbc swap into a 2g rx7 gives the car a 50/50 weight distrobution, a few companies offer kits to do such a thing if you want to.

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i was readin up on rx7club.com earlier before i started this thread and i just wanted some advice from people that arent completely in love with them. i just registered today on rx7club.com's forum so far it looks prety good and i think its gonna be able to answer most of my questions w/o me even having to post(which is great).

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suprisingly most forums are like that, I only post here all the time cause I'm a post -----.

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I had a turbo II for about a year. Cooling, as someone mentioned earler is key, because those rotaries run ------- HOT! It's not that expensive to maintain, really, just a lot of work when ---- goes out. If you don't know what an apex seal is, after driving a 7 for a while you'll know....After having to replace the god damn things 3 times like I did. (well, twice, the third time one of the seals went out i scrapped the damn thing :P)

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how long did it take you to replace the apex seal? did it seem like your Turbo II was always in the garage being worked on? cause that's the way my civic used to be until i finally finished everything...and now im trying to give it the boot! it probably wont be hard to get rid of though (there is a lot of stupid people around where i live) just tyring to get a figure of how big of mess im getting into ;D but im pretty excited about it!

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rotary resurrection does rebuilds and apparently he is one of the best. it genberally costs like 1 grand to send over a longblock complete engine, and he will replace all the needed ---- for like 500, and then if you want he will do a street port for 200 more. so to me, thats a damn straight good deal.

also quadnie, if he would to read up, or you where to read up for that matter, then you would probobly find the most of the ---- i say are along the ( yah, thats about right ) guidlines.

here are some rotary links.
http://www.rx7.com/
http://www.rx7club.com/

also, this is aaron cakes sight. he is also very well known in the 2nd gen rx7 community and most of what he says cant and wont be contradticted. read up on it.
http://www.aaroncake.net/RX-7/tech1.htm

more links
http://www.rx-7parts.com/default.php
http://www.teamfc3s.org/main/
http://www.speedmachineperformance.com/home

thats most of the ---- you need right there. also,

www.racingbeat.com
www.1300cc.com

have fun.

oops, forgot
www.rotaryresurrection.com

also, compression tests can be done with a regular compression checker. just go to rotary resurrecion and read up .on how to do it.

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kain
thanks alot for all the links...i think im gonna be up all night reading. "reading is good...can we please start the story now?"-Billy Madison ;D ill keep in touch with ya when i get my gxl. thanks again

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holy ----, don't be a moron, rx7s are gay, just look at kain.

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your an idiot. i give the guy advise, and your bashing me. still funny though.

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also, its a good idea to revamp the fuel system, and ditch or replace the pulsation dampener with something better. those crack or someshit and spew gas onto the exhaust manifold. not gewd.

also, n/a rotaries respond best to low octane fiels. that doesnt mean that 93 or 91 or above isnt going to work, it will, but isnt going bo be efective in producing enough power as lowewr octane will mainly because the extra octane it needs is coming from the oil it burns. dont ask me.

also, rotaries like to rev. period. allot of people in rx7club.com recommend spirited driving every now and then to ensure less carbon buildup, mainly because a piece of carbom ( if too big ) wil flake off, and hit an apex seal. and when tit hits an apex seal, the seal breaks, and if your reving at 5k rpms, the apex seal with take out allot of ---- in its way. ( i saw a pic of a side seal actually welded int the inside of a turbo housing. it speard it like pinestraw spears trees in tornado's.


i dont know much about rotaries, but i have read, and asked enough questions on how the wqork and whats good to do to them that i know a good deal, but still nothing compared to most rotaire enthisiests.

also, dont run a straightpipe unless you want your ears to bleed. lets try to imagine brap brap brap sounds at rougly 150 db's while idoling.

dont ask me how many cop cars came to my house cus i was taking the exhaust of and had the car idoling., they thaught someone was doing construction.

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That made no ------- sense at all. Look around - I'm acknowledged as one of the smartest mother fuckers on this board. It would be nice to say something like "yes, you are correct on that fact that you presented" BUT you talk like a complete crack head. Christ dude, look at your avatar! What did they run out of pictures of RuPaul on your little gay website? Why not just goto
http://www.rupaul.com/
and get your wacking material there.

Spell check would be a wonderful ------- thing in your life. Do something, just stop posting complete crap.

Like I said, boostedcivic25; you're fucked if you're taking advice from him.

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good lord, you dont know about the woop woop guy?

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do not, i repeat, do not buy a rx-7.

just listen to what kain says, he's a ------- moron, and every second thing that comes out of his mouth is "rx-7s break down..." "rx-7 have shitty pulsation dampeners and start fires" "rx-7s don't show any signs of abuse, they just die" "rx-7s flood.", "rx7s run hot" even tho he loves them more then he loves girls, he still tells you so much bad ---- about them....

just do yourself a favor and buy something else. the only thing a rx7 is good for is a high horsepower machine, something your not gona drive everyday.

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heh. what do you expect in a ------- 18 year old car dude for real? i replaced all the needed ---- and it runs fine. flooding, get injectors fixed. pd, replace with banjo bolt. blown rotor? better than spending a shitload of money on a new rod and piston and block if you do blown a boinger dude. your just pissed cus the canadians didnt invent it first.

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---- you kain, just admit it, say it with me now

"The reason, I, kain, do not get any, am a loser in reality and on turbo based website is because I drive a ------- POS Naturally aspirated mazda Rx-7, I'm not a loser cause of my stumpability, or my retarded unwithstanding ---- brains, but because of my heat pump rx-7, I am a gay Rx-7 addict"

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Granted I have seen a few 3rd gen RX7s that are ------- insane, but that's after 30k worth of work done to them. Only RX7 I would buy would be a shell that I would put a SBC in and really make it scoot. As much as spencer is hated as a canadian prick, I'm going to have to 100% back his ass on this one.

You're a retard. If you like rotary motors so much, why don't you go pollute their forums instead of this one? I would at least have a rat's ass worth of respect for you if you learned how to compose a half way decent post. It's like dealing with Tarzan over here. ---- dude!

I have an idea. Why don't we start up a fund for everyone to donate 3 cents to me so I can pay for a CDR + postage for you to get sent microsoft word and then you can spellcheck/proof-read your bullshit posts.

We can all live with you throwing in your two cents here and there and butchering a bunch of words on whatever topic.. but giving advice to someone who doesn't know any better - that's just cruel! You've nearly hit as high on my -------- as that pig fucker cap.

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I've worked on my buddies FC (91 RX7 Turbo) this winter, we did a Motor swap. Had all the works done to it, 3mm apex seals, big port job and pinned. Now he has a bunch of buddies and honestly all I hear is about how their RX7's and ---- are breaking down all the time, and how parts are so expensive. hell the rebuild kit for the 13b was big enough to fit in a envelope and costs almost 900 bucks!

I dunno, Rotarys are pretty cool, They have lots of potential. But they just dont seem to last.

Heres that old thread

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...threadid=11373

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Ryan, your just cracking me up man... :D

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what was the problem with it abaz, because if he had it tuned perfectly, then it would have lasted. some of the people on the rx7club.net forum have setups like your going 100k+ miles withought a single p[roblem. also, i heard 3mm apex seals are harsh. o well.

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What was the problem? well like every turbo 13b they break apex seals.

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quadnie your my hero lol.

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I do what I can.. as long as kain posts fucked up ----, I'll be there to say "you're an idiot!"

I was deabating weather my post was going to get deleted or not, I made a backup just in case (yeah, i thought it was that good)