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Tom-Guy 09-25-2008 11:57 PM

Riceboy marketing poll
 
Plug and play with the current Honda ECU based solutions.

Brand spanking new COP units.

Sweet perfection.

Tough-guy 09-26-2008 12:01 AM

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igotnothin 09-26-2008 12:02 AM

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im thinking 350 would be reasonalbe for us poor as HMT fools..

Bout the cost of a true honda dizzy.. It would definitly help eliminate the BS asoaciated with the shity honda dizzys..

txdohczc 09-26-2008 12:04 AM

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there has to be a cheap way to take coil packs from a factory car and make it work. or cop from a newer civic

Tom-Guy 09-26-2008 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by txdohczc
there has to be a cheap way to take coil packs from a factory car and make it work. or cop from a newer civic

You don't want COP from a newer Honda. That ---- is weak.

con 09-26-2008 12:33 AM

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if it works with a stock honda ecu and say neptune without a bunch of failure prone piece of ---- cam/crank sensors count me in :y

Tom-Guy 09-26-2008 12:36 AM

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The only cam/crank sensors I've seen go bad were in chinese distributors.













not ok.

Smith-02 09-26-2008 12:39 AM

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isuzu 3.2 cop's might work, who would look for an isuzu at a jy anyways? wink wink

Tom-Guy 09-26-2008 12:44 AM

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Uhm, no thanks. These come from a factory performance application that bone stock is rated at twice the 3.2's output.

Those Isuzu coils are also $97/per, my cost. ---- that.

88dx 09-26-2008 12:50 AM

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$0 dollars my dizzy works fine :8

igotnothin 09-26-2008 12:50 AM

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is there a new cop thats out that is cheap, or is this just giber jaber??
IF it was cheap "price" id look in to it

Tom-Guy 09-26-2008 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by igotnothin
is there a new cop thats out that is cheap, or is this just giber jaber??
IF it was cheap "price" id look in to it

Did you miss the poll above, princess?

Tough-guy 09-26-2008 01:14 AM

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Jesus, can anyone tell me what was the last bike produced with a dizzy? I don't understand why all cars aren't TPI COP anyway. :S

rsmith2786 09-26-2008 01:18 AM

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Bikes did it more for space. That isn't nearly as much of an issue for cars.

How are you triggering off of the single Honda ECU output? Will this be wasted spark? Would the kit include a hall effect sensor and cam gear to completely eliminate the need for a dizzy?

BigD 09-26-2008 03:15 AM

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Points ftw

fork 09-26-2008 10:36 AM

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So are you finally gonna put your knowledgabilities to use and get rich off of kids with hondas? If you sell it they will buy it.

kain 09-26-2008 10:58 AM

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or what you can do is machine a crank angle sensor from an rx7 to work with a honda. AEM sells crank angle sensors for hondas i think.

currently you can use megasquirt with a crank angle sensor just fine.

ls1 coils are better than regular msd coils.


---- it, just make a plug and play megasquirt kit and 4 fucken coils and your good to fucken go.

Tough-guy 09-26-2008 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kain
or what you can do is machine a crank angle sensor from an rx7 to work with a honda. AEM sells crank angle sensors for hondas i think.

currently you can use megasquirt with a crank angle sensor just fine.

ls1 coils are better than regular msd coils.


wtf are we talking about? what is COP? coil on plug?

use a subarus set up or just fucken.... mount the coils on the firewall and your good to go.

No way. They rice-boy crowd HAS TO HAVE COP because they are "tWizTing dOeZ moTorZ to Ill speeDz son. Dey nEEdz Dem mAd tYte COP to reDucTisiZe dEy sAturaTion TyMez. NaWm sAyin"

con 09-26-2008 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
The only cam/crank sensors I've seen go bad were in chinese distributors.


I replace a few at work, some auto makes never need any some eat them like smarties.









hondacivc93 09-26-2008 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Tough-guy
No way. They rice-boy crowd HAS TO HAVE COP because they are "tWizTing dOeZ moTorZ to Ill speeDz son. Dey nEEdz Dem mAd tYte COP to reDucTisiZe dEy sAturaTion TyMez. NaWm sAyin"

i NaW wACH Ur sAyin

CXyD 09-26-2008 11:18 AM

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couldn't you use the COP setup that is used on D17 or R18 equiped Civic.

Hitchhikkr 09-26-2008 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by kain
or what you can do is machine a crank angle sensor from an rx7 to work with a honda. AEM sells crank angle sensors for hondas i think.

currently you can use megasquirt with a crank angle sensor just fine.

ls1 coils are better than regular msd coils.


---- it, just make a plug and play megasquirt kit and 4 fucken coils and your good to fucken go.



No, this will be plug and play+ tuning. Keep the stock dizzy and remove the plug wires. COP will plug into the harness or with minor modification to the harness.


Originally Posted by 92CXyD
couldn't you use the COP setup that is used on D17 or R18 equiped Civic.

JD already stated the new honda COP setups suck the cock.

stenseltizm 09-26-2008 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 88dx
$0 dollars my dizzy works fine :8


kain 09-26-2008 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hitchhikkr


No, this will be plug and play+ tuning. Keep the stock dizzy and remove the plug wires. COP will plug into the harness or with minor modification to the harness.

JD already stated the new honda COP setups suck the cock.

this can eaisally be adapted to the harness or so i think. what is it one or two wires? an rpm signal and thats it?

remove the dizzy and put the crank angle sensor in its place. built up a megasquirt as a dedicated spark controller, put in a 2nd vr conditionaer circuit if you want or just use the stock one it has(v3), and set up the outputs and your good to go.

or adopt a ford edis setup to work on the honda.

Tom-Guy 09-26-2008 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by fork
So are you finally gonna put your knowledgabilities to use and get rich off of kids with hondas? If you sell it they will buy it.

No, I'm using my right-time right-place savvy to attempt to hitch a ride on another man's product.


ok



Originally Posted by highroller54

I replace a few at work, some auto makes never need any some eat them like smarties.

The only ones I've ever seen damaged were the OBD0 ones with the exposed windings that died religiously, and a bunch of CYPs off JDM swaps that the cap had been smacked while on a pallet and it threw the air gap off. And, of course, feces distributors from china whose ---- never works right, anyway.


Originally Posted by kain
or what you can do is machine a crank angle sensor from an rx7 to work with a honda. AEM sells crank angle sensors for hondas i think.

currently you can use megasquirt with a crank angle sensor just fine.

ls1 coils are better than regular msd coils.


---- it, just make a plug and play megasquirt kit and 4 fucken coils and your good to fucken go.

MSD makes better coils than the LSx units. As stated previously, MSD makes quite a lot of high quality coild manufactured to different specs. Since nobody here except me has the least idea - practical and theoretical - about LR circuit charge times, coil charge time/dwell, firing duration, rest times, and how to properly match a coil to a setup... uhm, be quiet kain. You just made a post full of nothing.

BTW, ---- Megasquirt. MS-II at the height of it's development will never be where OBD1 Honda was a year ago. Downgrading EMS for a horrible user interface, completely inadequate logging, poor control of several important features *primarily coil dwell* (funny you should mention MS in an ignition upgrade thread the best ignition upgrade for a MS car is to run something else), etc, is great advice to take from a guy who has never busted the 250 whp mark and really doesn't know what it takes. Outside of forum advice, which is usually wrong anyway.


Originally Posted by 88dx
$0 dollars my dizzy works fine :8

You aren't making 5-600 whp. This setup isn't targeted at you.

Hitchhikkr 09-26-2008 12:34 PM

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If you can smoke one of these coils you have achieved something. :6

igotnothin 09-26-2008 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Did you miss the poll above, princess?

No didnt miss it, Just didnt seem like you actualy had a product for distribution.


Woot and JD thinks im a princess... :-*

con 09-26-2008 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis

The only ones I've ever seen damaged were the OBD0 ones with the exposed windings that died religiously, and a bunch of CYPs off JDM swaps that the cap had been smacked while on a pallet and it threw the air gap off. And, of course, feces distributors from china whose ---- never works right, anyway.

sorry I was genearlizing again, I wasn't talking about hondas crank/cam sensors, I wasn't sure if you were retrofitting other brands of sensors onto the honda like t-1 does.

SpankedYA! 09-26-2008 10:34 PM

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bleh

kain 09-26-2008 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis

MSD makes better coils than the LSx units. As stated previously, MSD makes quite a lot of high quality coild manufactured to different specs. Since nobody here except me has the least idea - practical and theoretical - about LR circuit charge times, coil charge time/dwell, firing duration, rest times, and how to properly match a coil to a setup... uhm, be quiet kain. You just made a post full of nothing.

BTW, ---- Megasquirt. MS-II at the height of it's development will never be where OBD1 Honda was a year ago. Downgrading EMS for a horrible user interface, completely inadequate logging, poor control of several important features *primarily coil dwell* (funny you should mention MS in an ignition upgrade thread the best ignition upgrade for a MS car is to run something else), etc, is great advice to take from a guy who has never busted the 250 whp mark and really doesn't know what it takes. Outside of forum advice, which is usually wrong anyway.

interesting. o well what do i know.

all im used to is rx7 ignitions and what allot of rotor heads use.


HMTdmc 09-27-2008 12:16 AM

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WideBuddy will give you 400+ dollars for one. He's trying real hard to bust 350.

txdohczc 09-27-2008 12:40 AM

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did he die i have not seen him on here in a while

HMTdmc 09-27-2008 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by txdohczc
did he die i have not seen him on here in a while

Banned for calling BVD an "AFRICAN AMERICAN"

HMTdmc 09-27-2008 12:48 AM

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And Joseph ever since this ignition will be marketed to big power setups may as well charge 400 those types are used to spending money.

bitchM0VE 09-27-2008 12:55 AM

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BTW, ---- Megasquirt. MS-II at the height of it's development will never be where OBD1 Honda was a year ago. Downgrading EMS for a horrible user interface, completely inadequate logging, poor control of several important features *primarily coil dwell* (funny you should mention MS in an ignition upgrade thread the best ignition upgrade for a MS car is to run something else), etc, is great advice to take from a guy who has never busted the 250 whp mark and really doesn't know what it takes. Outside of forum advice, which is usually wrong anyway.
Uh, MS2 ain't that bad. It's not the best, but it's cheap, and that's important too. I have MS2 on my miata. I mounted a 36-1 trigger wheel to the crank (10 bucks), a VR sensor to read it (10 bucks), and MS now has timing resolution to 4/32 of a degree accuracy. I can setup any ignition parameter imaginable. You mentioned dwell. I can control dwell and starting dwell, number of coils, wasted spark, multi spark, etc. I can control fuel injector PWM current and ramp times in percent and microseconds respectively. (runs low ohm injectors to 3 decimal accuracy on PW) 12x12 maps isn't big, but it's adequate. And it does every thing imaginable that any other ECU on earth does and it's open source. Closed loop idle, PID, launch control, flat shift, EBC, boost by TPS, sequential d ignition (you were gonna run sequential COPs, right? ), 4 bank sequential injection, Autotune, dataloging, user specifiable setting to retard timing X degrees per 1st knock event, Y after that, etc. I like it. I'm sure your honda ---- is better, but for the mazda world MS is the best. I paid 250 for my MS2.




Tom-Guy 09-27-2008 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by patsmx5
You mentioned dwell. I can control dwell and starting dwell,

------- please. MS2 is merely slightly more cobbled on ---- than MS1 was. The only difference is the addition of a battery compensation table of medium resolution, there is still NO dwell control versus rpm and that right there will ---- you every time. ::)


Originally Posted by patsmx5
number of coils, wasted spark, multi spark, etc. I can control fuel injector PWM current and ramp times in percent and microseconds respectively. (runs low ohm injectors to 3 decimal accuracy on PW) 12x12 maps isn't big, but it's adequate. And it does every thing imaginable that any other ECU on earth does and it's open source. Closed loop idle, PID, launch control, flat shift, EBC, boost by TPS, sequential d ignition (you were gonna run sequential COPs, right? ), 4 bank sequential injection, Autotune, dataloging, user specifiable setting to retard timing X degrees per 1st knock event, Y after that, etc. I like it.

Whoopty-----, and half of it is crudely implemented or controlled.


Originally Posted by patsmx5
I'm sure your honda ---- is better

That's ------- right.

txdohczc 09-27-2008 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by patsmx5
I like it. I'm sure your honda ---- is better, but for the mazda world MS is the best. I paid 250 for my MS2.

our honda ---- is ten times better. that one of the reasons mazda sucks

kain 09-27-2008 02:22 AM

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rotard drivel deleted. no one cares about rotaries.

88dx 09-27-2008 02:23 AM

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FMU+fuel pump 8)

fork 09-27-2008 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Dmc1
Banned for calling BVD an "AFRICAN AMERICAN"

Did you mean BDV or BD


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