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So i bought a turbo from ZC EF 4dr.. a volvo stock turbo.. in which he sent me a video which i will post or im sure he will once he reads this thread.. basically shows him moving the wheel saying minimal shaft play but video is not very clear and it appears that his hand isn't moving a ton but you cant really see the wheel move

anyway.. fast forward to when i get the turbo i pull it out of the box and the first thing i check is the shaft play... sure enough its alot more than minimal enough to where the wheel will actually touch the compressor housing.. now i had co workers there with me when i opened the package one of them builds and works with alot of turbo straight up tells me that it may run but not for long with how much play it had, and that it would need a rebuild

so i send him a message and sure enough he tries to say that im scamming him and to basically ---- off cause its not his fault

I didn't expect a brand new turbo but i did expect a good working turbo like he had explained.. not something that the compressor wheel can touch the housing

yea 75$$ isn't a ton of money but its still money im losing.. how would you feel in this situation?

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https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...?topic=86103.0
so you expect that it doesnt work cause some fat redneck said "you cant run dat der turbo sketter the ---- kicker is all worn out in er !! "

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you sound like a ------- moron, the turbo is going to have a little play and tightin up with oil pressure, run it on the car and then talk ---- fag boy

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damn slow hatch beat me to it.

once there is oil in it it will tighten up...

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wow way to run your mouth slo hatch.. you dont know anything about me or who i had look at the turbo.. The company i work for is very well known and very well respected so your opinion on that means nothing..

yes i know it will tighten up with some oil pressure but in 9/10 cases where a turbo wheel can touch the housing there is going to be problems

and its not going on a car

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your a ------- moron you can take a new turbo to a rebuild shop and they will say it needs seals or somethingm there full of ---- and your a jack ass you havent even ran the turbo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! how can you say its ------- bad ? have you personally experienced its running potential ?? i could tell by the video that turbo is good i'd bet 50 dollars of my personal money you could slap that on a car and go beat the ---- out of it no problem, your a ------- tool go buy a god damn ready to bolt on greddy kit from h-t you ---- dingleberry muncher :7

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sorry greddy doesnt make kits for snowmobiles.. so im not gonna spend time and money to make this turbo fit what im doing to have it take a ---- on me after a few rides..
we have gone through this before thinking that it would be ok with similar turbos and guess what.. it was not ok. if i had this exact turbo as a spare i would just run it and when it took a ---- i would slap my other one on it .. but when this does crap out and i don't have a turbo thats the same that means i have to fab up a whole new system.. costing me time, money and not being able to ride my snowmobile

and i didnt take it to a shop i had my coworkers who build turbos and work with them daily look at it.. if they though that it wouild be ok to use and would last a while i would just slap the bitch on and call it a day

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slap it on and prove us wrong nog !!!

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Like i said.. why would i want to spend time and money on making parts to fit this turbo on my sled when there is a good chance it may take a ---- on me.. if i had tons of spare time and extra money just floating around i would of already started on it..

yea maybe it would last a ride or 2 maybe 10 but with how much play that wheel has there is a chance it may take a ---- on the first day and id rather not find out a few miles back into the mountians

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time and money ? your a ----- put it on and make your self look like a dipshit, how much oil presure you going to run through it > ?

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these turbos shouldnt see over 30-35psi of oil pressure

yes time and money .. it takes time to fab up flanges, piping . lines etc.. for a snowmobile.. why would i want to do all that for this turbo if there is a posibility that i may have to get a new one and make all that stuff over again

parts and material cost money.. yea alot of it i can manage to use off stuff around the shop but that would still invest time to get it all done.. id rather just get it done and not have to worry about am i going to have to put another turbo on or not

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:3 ------- morons i tell ya, you cant beat sense into them with a stick :3

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Sorry dude but im far from a moron ive been working on cars, trucks and snowmobiles that have had f/i setups for quite a few years, im not some stupid 17 year old kid or whatever it is you think

what sense are you trying to " beat".. cause all ive seen you post is trash talking and nothing worthwhile

ill have a video up of my own showing how the wheel hits the housing and how much actual play there is.. also ill take pics of the dirty bolts just to show that i did not disassemble or modify this turbo in any way

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ive ran way over 35psi oil pressure on every turbo i've had even the chink ones with no problems, well 35psi at WOT at least. not constantly....

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yes so have i.. some didnt like it some did.. but after talking to people at garrett and turbonetics they say that no more than 30-35 is needed..

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take some oil, pour it into the oil inlet, spin the turbo as you're doing it.

i bet after you run a tiny bit of oil through it it'll tighten up

just because you spin the turbo and it sounds like the fins are hitting the housing doens't mean they will when its being used. the turbos i put on my mustang had some play and if you really tried you could make the fins hit the housing, but i never had a problem with them when they were on the car for 2 years WOT everyday

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yea.. well at least your trying to give decent info

Ive had it go both ways.. i really dont have to try hard to make it hit the housing.. and yes i know that with some oil pressure and when its moving that it will tighten up but my main concern is if im gonna go through all the modding i have to to make this work id feel alot better having a turbo that doesnt have so much play give me less to worry about

if the turbo is good like he claims i dont see and issue on sending it back to him and like i said i offered to pay the shipping back which in turn makes me lose money not him.. if he is still set on it being good he can re sell it.. but i dont feel comfortable with the ammount of shaft play it does have

when i get home from this business trip i will take some video of where it is hitting the housing and how much it moves and you guys can be the judge

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why waste the money to ship? buy a rebuild kit and have your friend rebuild it for cheap. i mean come on.... what did you expect for $70?

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---- problem solved, tell them to slap a rebuild kit on that bitch and call it a day.

if these guys are such pro's that is

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you act like it's hard to find another 42/48 ::) if you build ---- for that it will work with just about any T3 exhaust side.

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Also, you payed less than the core is worth to be rebuilt, get fisted.

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What did you expect for a 75.00 turbo???? ::)

I vote Ban Timmay for buying cheap ---- and bitching about the quality. If you wanted somethign reliable you should have opened up your damn pockets and dropped 200+ for a nice one. Otherwise stfu and get off HMT

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its a used turbo. you get what you pay for. fab up everything you need, and run it. It will probobly be fine. I ran a ching chong turbo at upwards of 70psi of oil pressure. it was fine. and if the turbo doesnt work well, get it rebuilt. Quick being a bitch.

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what some people bitch about...damn..my .02--rebuild the bastard and put it on your car. It was cheaper than a core, which has been stated here more than one..damn be happy..Regardless, any used product bought has an unknown history to some extent to the buyer..which means you rebuild it and YOU know exactly what the condition is.

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^exactly^

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http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/5577/ccmbog2.png

That is all.

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everyone is missing the god damned point//

this turbo wasnt sold as a core.. which it obviously is.. if the compressor wheel is hitting the housing.. its a CORE because it WILL kill itself therefore it needs to be REBUILT in order to be used.. this was sold as a WORKING TURBO with minimal play :S

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If it was them and their money they would get the point. People know the seller better than the buyer so THAT is the point here.

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MS PAINT FTW!!! (im bored!!)

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f4...c/timmmmay.jpg

:6

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*if* the turbo fucks up, use one with the same flange or have that one rebuilt.

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seems everyone has confirmed u r an ass.......but one more cant hurt, asssss

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Have you bothered to run a bit of oil through as recommended? Ofcourse not because you're ignoring recommendations and advise and too busy using the oil to grease up your pocket ----- while crying about getting ripped off when you don't even know if you've been ripped off in the first place. You paid $70 for a USED turbo with NO WARRANTY. WTF do you expect when you haven't even taken the proper steps to check more in depth to this supposed shaft play issue you have?

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timmay, you sound like the retarded guy hired to clean up oil stains and wash cars after they've been worked on at a shop. you're homies are trying to ---- you.

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I sell buildable core T3 for $75, some run some already pass oil. A bearing kit runs $45 or less, takes under an hour to install.

You got a good deal.

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I'll take for $50

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just man up and bolt it on, i've used some downright NASTY noise making turbo's and once they get some oil they spool and boost just like new.

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Timmay, 42/48 T3's are one of the easiest to find turbos anywhere. $75 is a good deal, and you're a whiny bitch.

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If your coworker works with so many turbos why not buy one from him?

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you can take a brand new garret out of the box and push the impeller into the side wall if you try hard enough :X he hasn't even tried it, so he doesn't know if it works or not.

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actually no you cant.. we just got a brand new t25 from garrett for another snowmobile (NOT A CAR) and it doesnt have ---- for play

i bought a turbo for 75$ and i expect it to work if i was told its going to work.. im not gonna take the time to fab everything up for the sled and have it take a ---- then have to rebuild it.. that is the point.. obviously if 50-75 dollars isnt much money for you guys why not send me the money and ill send you the turbo and you can do whatever you please with it .. cause im not going to use it when i can just find another one that has alot less play for the same money

and no i have not run oil through it just yet i am on the road for work untill next week and yes oil will take some play out but imo its still not acceptable to me

he seems to think ive talked all this ---- on him and the only reason i said i would file a claim and tell people i had a bad sell with him is cause basicly he told me to shove it.. he never once offered to help me out and had no plan of doing so