Project: SS-Auto Budget GSR
 

Heres a project I've been dicking around with the past 2 months or so.. Had a few problems along the way but I'm glad its done. This setup is being done for a 17 year old kid still in highschool. The car is a 98 Civic Hatch with a B18c block and B16a head, GSR trans, and stage 1 act clutch.

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Alot of you know I'm trying out some of SSautochromes products, so I thought it would be perfect to try them out on this car. The snail of choice is a T3/T4 57 trim .50/.63 you can pick these up on Ebay for around 250 bucks new. I dissasembled the turbo just for shits and giggles and it looked mint.

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I wanted to use a V-band setup on this setup, Beau welded the Vband directly to the exhaust housing and blocked off the internal gate passage. You can also get these vbands from SSauto, around 30 bucks or so..

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Since this setup was on a "Budget" I went ahead and made a standard log manifold. However I thought it would be fun to angle the turbo straight off insted of down.

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Obviously a little bit of notching was done on the front body section, but nothing major.

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This is actually the first log manifold that I've ever made. Using all mcmaster sch 10 bends, The flanges are from weirRacing. Just a FYI , when you use a GSR block/B16a head, a normal B-series head flange has to be modified on the 2 ends, because it wont sit flush.

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All installed, yes the hood shuts, still has about 1/2 inch clearence.

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The downpipe, all 2.5in Mandrel bent/Vband. It was really easy to make, and I think from now on I'm going to use Vbands. Definatly the flat-rate of downpipes.

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After 2 years, Mike G back in the hmt garage helping out. Mike helped me do all the charge pipes and mounting the intercooler. He did go a little aipshit with the oil return ;)

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I now have my Tig at work, so everything on this project was tigged, it just made things go very slow, and I would have rather migged everything but I do need the practice. I now feel bad for always making beau tig all my ---- together haha.

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CustomCoach 6in Intercooler, this is the same unit that was in the group buy for 130 shipped. Very nice IC. Fitting these intercoolers are pretty easy. We just made some L brackets and welded them to the body, then bolted the top ones to the body. Basically nobody is going to have a fun time trying to steal this IC ;)

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All 2.5in intercooler charge piping was used

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Pep Boys had a perfect peice already flared out on both ends for the upper pipe, it made things a sinch, until I started welding it... I didnt know it was galvanized :-X

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For coupler material I used Napas 2.5in Fuel Tank filler/Dryer hose. It works very good, and costs around 8 bucks a foot. 2 feet is usually more than enough. Just be advised when cutting this stuff in your chop saw you will piss other people off. It smells like a dave lee dirty second on free beef rubber.

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For the Driverside IC piping I wanted to try something that I havent done before. Normally I use silicone adapters or some goofy method to make the compressor side (1.8in) go to (2.5in) on the IC.

I used a chunk of mcmaster straight sch 10 and flared it out to 2in in our press, then flared out the 2 1/4 to the 2.5in pipe.

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Came out pretty sexy

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I asked Jared (the owner of the car) what color pipes he wanted, and he said he didnt care.. Now with a guy owning a purple car, I thought it would have been funny to do purple charge pipes, but I decided not to, and go with Cast Iron Grey.

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I usually use those nice CNC'd fittings from tuner toys, but I couldnt find any, so I just used a factory Saab oil return chopped, then with Heater hose attached to it.

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Mike J stopped by as well, he installed the Stealthmode feed line, and Tunertoys Block fitting.

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We got a little side tracked and started playing with Mikes dog....

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Then went to start the car up... and uhm, someone forgot to put the oil filter back on. I'm not pointing any fingers, but... I think mike left it off hahaha ;)

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Horhay wasnt availble, so I had to clean up the big mess.

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Yes, only real mechanics wear Abercrombie and geek glasses when fabricating. :1

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The engine management was pretty simple. The car was OBD2, so we obviously needed a OBD2-1 Jumper Harness and a chipped P06 ECU curtiosy of Xenocron.

Also, used a set of DSM 450cc blue top injectors, obd0 Injector clips, and a obd0 resistor pack.

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Splicing in the new clips, be sure to use solder and heatshrink on these badboys. Ass connectors look like ass and it just looks way cleaner this way.

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Unlike OBD1 cars the Injector Pins are under the intake manifold on OBD2. So if you want to use the resistor box, you will need to mount it down here. Just de-pin the 4 injectors wires, and 1 12v+ signal wire then use the 5/6 pin connector to attach to the resistor box.

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All done, definatly a bit of a pain when its under here, but atleast it looks better than inline resistors.

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The Xenocron P06 ecu was chipped and had a GSR basemap for 450's However we had a Solid CEL on first start up.

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Turbohf (Dustin) gave me a hand figuring out what happened, just looked like it was a bad burn. We used his OBD1 Test harness to make sure we didnt have a solid cel. Just reburnt the chip and we were good to go.

And yes, Breakfeast Ciabattas are delecious.

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So me and dustin go for a quick ripper in the car, wastegate was set at 8psi. The first pull there was alot of igniton break up. I pulled the plugs, they looked kinda shitty, gapped at .060, so I regapped them down to .030 and went for another ripper, (only in 2nd gear) then it happened... the sound of terror... the sound of "the suby" it was only running on 2 or 3 cylinders. Me and dustin were like... WTF just happened? We went back to shop with a huge trail of smoke behind us. I pulled the plugs again and they were melted down, I was in complete disbeleif. The breather was shooting out a ---- ton of smoke. A compression test wasnt even needed, we knew that the ringlands were done.

But why? what did I do wrong? I couldnt beleive it, was it a tuning error? Did the wastegate ---- up? WTF happened?! How was I suppose to explain this to my customer.. "Hey I just blew up your engine, I'm sorry" lol

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I pulled the head, and honestly about crapped my pants. Well Well Well, what do we have here? Those pistons sure as hell are not stock GSR's haha. After further inspection they were B16b Civic Type R pistons, which yeild around 12.6c/r PERFECT FOR BOOST, hah. The owner of the car didnt even know it had these pistons in it. He bought the car like this! I thought it felt like a strong GSR NA.. ;)

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As suspected, all the ring lands were done, on practically the first pull and only in second gear. Now that this wasnt my fault I was feeling much better.

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I talked Jared into a set of Forged CP Pistons. I picked them up from James at BMC.. thanks dude!

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The cylinders were so beat up on this thing, way worse than my trailerpark b16a. Grooves on both sides where the skirt rides. I gave it the backyard hone job, I measured a few ring end gaps and they were so far out of spec, I couldnt beleive it. Then just for the hell of it, I took a look at a few main bearings, and for the first time ever on a honda (that I've seen) the bearings were just beat to hell, usually the rod bearings take the beating, but the mains were done.. I explained everything to him..

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He asked.. "What would you do?" lets slap it together and see what happens. I replaced all the main bearings with a set of ACL's.

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Bling Bling, C/R is around 8.8 with these pistons.

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All back together and Not smoking

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Using a SS Autochrome TurboXS RFL (ripoff) Blow off valve, sounds pretty good.

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Purple is Hot, rocking the 90-91 Crx SI wheels.

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Mike G did a sweet job cutting out the front bumper..

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All Done, It came out pretty nice. It feels pretty good for 8psi. It's just running a basemap, still needs to be tuned a bit better. I'll letcha guys know how well its doing in a few months. Jareds pretty lucky having a car like this in high school.

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Brought to you by... ^^

Oh and a side note.. For the guys who tried to steal the intercooler in the middle of the night at the shop (that obviously didnt get it). I did check the intercooler pipes.. Dipshits, thanks for the 1 1/2 gallons of water in the IC and pipes. Did you honestly think I wouldnt check that ----? ::)

Thanks again to:
Beau
Mike G & Mike J
Dustin
Bucker @ SSauto
Craig @ tunertoys
Chris @ xenocron
Aaron @ weirRacing
Mom @ CC

-Jeff Frank

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Dam that looks like a good job, i would have been as surprised as you were if i had found those type r pistons in there.

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looks pretty sick nice job as usual.

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god dammit. whenever i read thread like this, all the pics get fucked up, ------- firefox. oh well

looks good jeff. ---- the assholes that try to steal ----

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beautiful

hahah those domes are classic
I would laugh my ass off if that even happened to me.

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you got balls of steel to put ssc stuff on.
now dyno it 8)

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damn nice job jeff.
i was thinking Project: SS-Auto Budget GSR would be all ss products.
and the Budget turned into rebuild and new pistons.
high school kid with that car: won't last long.
that an open wg? i can't see a dumptube below it. maybe just the flange..

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41pics.. sometimes Firefox/Mozilla wont load them, Try IE. Or you can view them here

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/2005/SSGsr/

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Your not the only one where the pics get all fucked up. It like freezes and just repeats everything over and over. :-[ I get that for the majority of posts that have alot of pics in them. So whats the story now Jeff? You post your services in the newpaper up there or something or how do you always get all these side jobs?

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any videos of the car? :D
how much would you charge for a project like that if the pistons werent messed up?
thats ------- aweosme.

same here. mozilla makes the pictures ---- up. i just opened it in internet explorer and it works fine :-\

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Come on now, you really think I'd use a SSauto mani on a customers car? hah.. I'm just using 4 of his products, Wastegate/Turbo/BOV/Vband. I also have the same stuff on my car as well.

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I did make a dump tube, but I didnt take very good pictures of it... and yes it vents to atmosphere.

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yep, IE will load everything, i figured it out just before everyone posted it. good ---- jeff

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nice jeff. hope it works out good for him

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I wish I could have had such a nice car when I was in high school. :-\

Why does it seem like no matter what you do, someone is always trying to steal your ----? Jesus, do thieves constantly scope the area out for new ---- to rip-off? ???
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i like it. looks like it was a fun project (especially finding those pistons!).

any track times? what boost is the kid running now (with the built block)?

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for the people with fucked up picture loading in firefox,
get version 1.5.
It fixed the problem for me.
getfirefox.com

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wish that was my setup 8)

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firefox sucks just uninstall it.

project looks real nice. sheeit when i was in HS I had a 1986 renault sportswagon.

how gay is that?

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Classic, f'in ctr's in the block. Cant imagine the look on your face. Um those domes look a little tall LOL.

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Nice write-up...yours are always the best. Glad you figured out why that first motor was so touchy :y

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LOL sorry Jeff that may or may not have been me that forgot the filter.......it was 3:30 in the morning :P My car next! ;D

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Switch it to Internet Explorer in the bottom left hand browser corner.


Very cool/clean/nice. I like it. What is the whole V-Band thing? It's only $250 for an SSAuto 57trim t03/to4e? That's cheap. Are you confident in that turbo?


JP

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looks damn nice

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I concur. Beautiful

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nice work boys

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man it must be nice to have a car like that in highskool :1

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Thanks Mike, 1.5 cleared that ---- all up and I got to see the rest of the Jeff's post instead of leaving me hangin' like the end of some Soap Opera. Damn those pistons were toasted!! Cool that everything came out good in the end.

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very nice, I want to know how the turbo holds up, if it does that would be a nice cheap alternative

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You should really invest in flying a Vietcong Gerruilla over here to booby trap your shop for you. You have so many damn theives.

*Starts up a new donation thread*

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should have left it NA, if you knew those pistons were in it :) (i know you didnt know, just saying, if you did know)

but did he have any kind of engine management before you did any work? or running off stock injectors and stock ecu? could explain why the engine was so beat up when you took it apart. 12.6:1 compression + boost = fun lol.

good job on the rebuilld, kid is definitely lucky to have a car/motor like that in highschool. now just hook him up with some rims. i like the crx rims, but not on that car. lol. good work

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yea def was sooo much better NA LOL

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Looks to good to be a HMT... Clean ass install. props

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great job. ;D

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Dont lie Jeff, we know you swapped in the SSauto mani thats on the cart there, hahahah

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Clean ------- install, and the top mount log is HOT.
Send the guy my way if he'd like to get his 2nd set of pistons owned. :1

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lookin good, too bad those CTR pistons had to die, he probably coulda sold em for a pretty penny

how did you use a press for your turbo outlet? i have access to a press at my school, and im definately in need of a cheap way to get 1.5" into 2.5"

i was planning on just cutting grooves into the smaller peice, bend them out, and weld the gaps shut :8 nice n lumpy pipes haha

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I love the mounting of the turbo. I might try that ---- on my next build/setup. How much power is that turbo good for? Damn, those busted pistons were domed like hell :3

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That was a detailed write up, the whole project turned out clean. Nice job! :y

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Wow, looks professional. Hopefully this car won't get jacked. Tell him to be careful!

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Bling Bling :y anyplans to dyno this thing?

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i just finished my manifold like that a few days ago. fits perfect in my EG, no need to cut the rad support

dig it