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J-SMITH69 01-27-2006 03:44 PM

Re: Priest may face trial for saying Jesus existed
 

Originally Posted by sixsick6
::)

Because it's true and you have no defense for it, and know it. It's good to have conviction and stand by your convictions even though everyone else knows that they're wrong.

no, its not truth, you dont know if it is or not the ::) was because there is no arguing with a view point like yours.

dont pretend like you know because you dont and neither does anyone else for sure.

Reddy 01-27-2006 03:44 PM

Re: Priest may face trial for saying Jesus existed
 

Originally Posted by random-strike
thats interesting

if you became went back to a state where you dont remember anything, you would be a whole new person... kinda sucks


Yeah but if this is true than life is completely meaningless. I mean If everytime I built a house it was burnt down and I had to rebuild it and this happened for eternity than there's no reason to keep building it and it wouldn't even matter how shitty or how well I built it each time. therefore I just start a new life again after this one, than what I do with this life doesn't matter at all. The famous saying for this is "God has died"




Originally Posted by sixsick6
::)

Because it's true and you have no defense for it, and know it. It's good to have conviction and stand by your convictions even though everyone else knows that they're wrong.


Energy cannot be destroyed, its a law that cannot be argued. therefore something happens to your "soul" (energy) when you die. The only catch is, you have to die to find out what happens to it

sixsick6 01-27-2006 03:48 PM

Re: Priest may face trial for saying Jesus existed
 

Originally Posted by Whitey
You know when you get knocked out for surgery, and you wake up but can't remember anything and it felt like even a second hasn't passed? Well that time you were knocked out is death except you don't wake up. However if I'm right this means life is cyclical and therefore life is meaningless since we just return to where we started from.

A benzodiazepine like diazepam or midazolam or a barbiturate such like thiopental or nonbenzodiazepine like propofol is used to settle anxiety and facilitate an endotracheal tube going down your throat. Sedation is followed by the induction of general anesthesia by intravenous injection of a sedative narcotic like morphine, fentanyl, alfentanyl, or ketamine.

Succinylcholine is often used for muscle paralysis and you're then maintained by a mixture of oxygen and nitrous oxide (not the same nitrous oxide used in automobiles)]

Besides hanging out on car forums, I also hang out in surgery by profession. ;)

spongerlbc 01-27-2006 03:52 PM

Re: Priest may face trial for saying Jesus existed
 
Here is proof Jesus exists:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...sus+family+guy

Reddy 01-27-2006 03:52 PM

Re: Priest may face trial for saying Jesus existed
 

Originally Posted by doug684
Do you happen to be Asian? This is the Asian vew of life.

Hell no! 100% whitebread. Calling me asian is like calling BD a ------.

In the college of religion my major is undeclared. Believe in Science, I believe in string theory. There's not enough proof for me not to believe in God but as of right now I don't think there is one.



Bottom line is I don't like religion. I think its just another way people separate each other from others (skin color, religion, ect). It is good to have morals and thats what religion gives people. However religion is terrible when its interperated literally. The bible is just a collection of stories that people should turn to for guidance on how to live a good life. I just get pissed when people ignore scientific facts becuase of religion. Did God create the Earth in 7 days? ---- no. A day is a relative unit of measurement dictated by its rotation around the sun. HOw could it take 7 days when a "day" didn't exist? Is it more possible that maybe God created the universe through the big bang? I think so. I'll get off my soap box now...

BigD 01-27-2006 04:00 PM

Re: Priest may face trial for saying Jesus existed
 

Originally Posted by Whitey
Hell no! 100% whitebread. Calling me asian is like calling BD a ------.

In the college of religion my major is undeclared. Believe in Science, I believe in string theory. There's not enough proof for me not to believe in God but as of right now I don't think there is one.



Bottom line is I don't like religion. I think its just another way people separate each other from others (skin color, religion, ect). It is good to have morals and thats what religion gives people. However religion is terrible when its interperated literally. The bible is just a collection of stories that people should turn to for guidance on how to live a good life. I just get pissed when people ignore scientific facts becuase of religion. Did God create the Earth in 7 days? ---- no. A day is a relative unit of measurement dictated by its rotation around the sun. HOw could it take 7 days when a "day" didn't exist? Is it more possible that maybe God created the universe through the big bang? I think so. I'll get off my soap box now...

I think I see where your coming from, which makes sense to me. Your not saying you don't disbelieve in God you disbelieve in organized religion? Correct?

If so I some what agree. A lot of religions are tweaked to the thoughts of others. Like you have to wear this, or you can't do this, or blah blah. Like when people saying cursing is a sin....WTF? I seriously doubt back in the day in Israel they went around saying "What up bitch!".

sixsick6 01-27-2006 04:11 PM

Re: Priest may face trial for saying Jesus existed
 

Originally Posted by Whitey
Hell no! 100% whitebread. Calling me asian is like calling BD a ------.

In the college of religion my major is undeclared. Believe in Science, I believe in string theory. There's not enough proof for me not to believe in God but as of right now I don't think there is one.



Bottom line is I don't like religion. I think its just another way people separate each other from others (skin color, religion, ect). It is good to have morals and thats what religion gives people. However religion is terrible when its interperated literally. The bible is just a collection of stories that people should turn to for guidance on how to live a good life. I just get pissed when people ignore scientific facts becuase of religion. Did God create the Earth in 7 days? ---- no. A day is a relative unit of measurement dictated by its rotation around the sun. HOw could it take 7 days when a "day" didn't exist? Is it more possible that maybe God created the universe through the big bang? I think so. I'll get off my soap box now...

Exactly. The only "energy" the human body creates is through the Sinoatrial node to the AV node to the Bundle of HIS to the right and left branches where it ------s using Purkinje Fibers to the right and left ventricles. When your heart ceases to beat, you have no "energy" and the word "soul" or "what happens to your soul" is complete utter bullshit.


Reddy 01-27-2006 04:11 PM

Re: Priest may face trial for saying Jesus existed
 

Originally Posted by doug684
I think I see where your coming from, which makes sense to me. Your not saying you don't disbelieve in God you disbelieve in organized religion? Correct?


I don't disbelieve in God, I just don't have blind faith. I need proof to believe in something so I'd like to say I'm open minded.

Yes, I do not like organized religion becuase in reality religion is nothing but a buisness. Look at the Vatican and honestly say that religion isn't a huge moneymaker and thats what I don't like. Religion has hindered many discoveries becuase it interfered with religios buisness. I mean we killed people who said the Earth revolved around the sun. :-\ The sad fact is that we most likely evolved from monkies and God didn't create the Earth in 7 days. But does this mean that God does not exist...no. It just proves that God is smarter than we think he is and if he exists probably created the process which eventually led to man. The bible isn't a fact sheet, its a collection of stories that people should follow to lead a decent and moral life, not to dictate literally to disprove discoveries, evidence and science.


d0nfry 01-27-2006 04:25 PM

Re: Priest may face trial for saying Jesus existed
 
wow Cascioli needs to die, what an -------

BigD 01-27-2006 04:47 PM

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I don't think 7 days was in terms of today. I mean people in the Bible also lived 100's of years.

HondaTuner 01-27-2006 06:03 PM

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Minister mode:

I actually do believe in Evolution in one sense. Whoever does NOT believe that a species changes over time is a complete and utter idiot :1 What this fool is trying to do is drive the Catholic church out of Italy... Italian law says you can't teach anything that's incorrect, and if found to be incorrect you can't teach it anymore.. so if the courts "find" that Jesus did not exist, then the Catholic church and all others are to be driven out.

And also with the whole Priest ordeal... I don't understand why Catholic priests cannot marry. I am a presbyterian (specifically, methodist) and every church I've ever gone to, the Pastor was happily married with kids. Not saying that they all should do that, but every man has the craving, ya know O0 Catholic Priests are just supposed to give that up.. and end up abusing the people that are with them regularly because of it.

In case you didn't notice, I don't like the Catholic church. Their own "bible" proves itself wrong... In one part (The "original" version) it states you can only be saved (from hell) by accepting Jesus as your saviour and into your life and acknowleding that God is the one true God... Then there's the f'd up Catholic part that says that you can only go to Heaven if your good outweighs the bad, and they also have some writing saying that if you are not a Catholic, or if you are kicked out of the Catholic church, you're going to hell.

Idiots. (Oh and lets kill everyone who doesn't believe what we believe... drrr :1 )


I, as does eveyone else, has doubts about everything... recently I've been having many doubts about Christ... but here's the thing.. If I'm wrong, what did I lose? But if I'm right... what did YOU lose?... Everything.


I think Whitey said it best here:


Originally Posted by Whitey
I won't know for sure until I die.


Reddy 01-27-2006 07:11 PM

Re: Priest may face trial for saying Jesus existed
 
I'm sorry but the correct answer was Mormon... Yes, the mormons.

BigD 01-27-2006 08:28 PM

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Catholics use to sell tickets that got you out of pergatory faster too... :1

USS 01-27-2006 08:38 PM

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My dad was a pastor, so I grew up in a Luthren environment. I believe in evolution, and there's solid evidence that supports evolution. I think the bible and other religious documents were just interprutations of events that happened, and an explination of the unexplainable. I think our "soul" is just who we are. Yes, everything we feel and interprut consists of just electrons and our brain "telling" us what is happening. We don't like to accept that, so the soul seems to be understood more so than "just electrons."

I think God is everything, and that everything is connected in some way, some how. I could go on about this for hours, but that's my religious beliefs in a nut shell.

jinxy 01-27-2006 08:42 PM

Re: Priest may face trial for saying Jesus existed
 
the reasons preist cant have a wife is a property issue with the catholic church. not a moraly wrong thing.

d16forlife 01-27-2006 08:51 PM

Re: Priest may face trial for saying Jesus existed
 
I headr about that.Its pretty funny to me. :y

More people have died over or for religion than of natural couse since the history of man.Religion is for mindless minions who need some one to tell them how to live their pathetic lifes.

I belive in god(not jesus.just god)couse it gives me a sense of relief.I just dont neeed him to live my life.


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