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http://www.slrexpress.com/proddetail...source=froogle

is it worth it?

id figure a loan for 36 mos. 60 bux a month

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First of all you're an idiot if you take out a loan for something like this.

Second, who the ---- is going to give you a 3 year interest free loan?

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ok so 60 bux plus interest... w/e

i need to build credit anyway :P

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Is it worth it? hell ------- no.

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just find one on craigslist for 250, my friend got one for 150(little bastard) and he plays his 360 outside on his garage sometimes with like a 140 inch screen...........im like omfgiwlthtmftfmh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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not worth it

you can build your own for a few hundred, it just won't be as portable and fancy

what a retarded thing to get on credit

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Establish credit in better ways, like taking a cash loan out, putting it in a different banks savings account, accrue interest, make payments on time for 6-12 months with the money you borrowed, pay the small amount of interest on the loan and then pay it off. rinse repeat

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You can get 1080i for much less than $2100.

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does it have vtec?

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My tv has undergloWS! color changing at that... no vtec tho!

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This thread inspired me to have the DIY projector discussion with Jorsher for the seventeenth time.

http://lumenlab.com/diy/

You are welcome.

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If that is the Phillips tv I am thinking about, then god help your eyes.

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im no electrician.. but i would assume that would only need soldering skills and the ability to read instructions?

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http://www.lumenlab.com/forums/index.php?showuser=25193

Send papi a message on where you got everything if you do the LL style. I have been looking to do this for a while now. That site is HMT but for projectors O0

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better idea... what about the ching chong projecors on ebay? they seem pretty legit

500 bux sounds more resonable.

http://cgi.ebay.com/HD-Ready-Home-Ci...QQcmdZViewItem

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ssautochrome?

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/sigh yeah thats what im thinking too :(

they get good reviews though ???

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Contrast: 600: 1

have fun with those grays

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You only need basic "electrician" skills if you need to wire up a ballast to the bulb, which is as easy as connecting negative/positive/ground wires.

The hard part is building the enclosure.

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all those on lumen lab are just lcd projectors, they won't have the color, or contrast of a DLP. you can get the higher resolution for cheaper that way

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no kidding

however, I'd rather pay 200-1000 (depends on parts used) for a 720-1080p resolution, with decent contrast (of course won't be dlp level), and bulbs that can be replaced for $10-50. I'll deal with slightly lower contrast ratio for 1000+ in savings and bulbs that won't cost $150-300 to replace.

You can get extremely good quality on DIY projectors, just depends on the builder and quality of parts used (same goes here)

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Looks good to me; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6n6jW0XIV0

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Look through completed projects on lumenlab forums, you can get great results. I've had the parts for well over a year, but have been too lazy to throw it together.

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Bulbs that are rated at 20,000 hours instead of 1500-2000, too.

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http://www.projectorreviews.com/panasonic/pt-ax100u/

800 bux remanufactured

250$ + bulb though :(

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only thing about the diy projectors is that theyre all damn huge.

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You notice it says it takes a 1080i input signal? Not to be confused with what the unit actially does. :3

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Good point.

Also the 20,000 hours is supposed to be its "half-life" which it'll still work past that, but the color and lumens will continue to decrease. As one more bonus, you can use it to grow tomatoes during the long, cold winters.

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holy hell...

good eyes :P

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/sigh unfortunately... the lcd i have and was planning to use is way too big. 20"

so it looks like ill just have to buy this thing : /

http://www.proviewdigital.com/PTAX100UR.html

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not to mention 1080i really isn't that great. You're really only getting 540 lines per frame, and with motion you'll see the feathering you see on standard def tvs, although it'll be improved since it's 540 lines a frame as opposed to 240 in standard definition.

720p/1080p, or bust

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Yup thats some of the downfall, but, you gotta see all the highlights. Plus some of the og's on there sell premade boxes that might be a little sexier for your setup. They also use mirror tricks to make things fit in smaller boxes. I think they did that with the ps2 mini screen. If size is the issue, there has been many people who have made a smaller enclosure with a bounce/reflection or whatever.

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there are budget dlp's that go for $1000 and under, the bulb $ is a bitch tho.
i will be getting a projector for my basment, i'm in the long process of finishing it now.
i just want something that looks clean. i dont plan on staying in the house for long after my basement is done, so i'll sell the projector and all my home theater ---- along with it.

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for some reason i cant see a lot of the pictures on LL, pisses me off. im registered and everyting but cant see attachments, its quite the annoyance.

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http://www.lumenlab.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9993
http://www.lumenlab.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4907

http://www.lumenlab.com/forums/index...howtopic=10363 <- one of my favs. Sure does look like the quality is lacking :-*

Weird, I haven't been on the site since they revamped it. It looks like a lot of the pictures that used to be included in the post are now attached, that does get annoying.

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i've been a member on Lumenlab for years.. i have one of there first projectors.. i have it at about 100 inches, its ok for the price. but there (you can get new bulbs for $30) is kinda bullshit.. because its pretty much impossible to find them.

i was going to make my own projector.. but the fact that there way way to large, and would cost more money then you think you would pay building it yourself. and there not easy to build and most likely would ---- it up. the kids on that site that have some nice DIY projocters where very costly to them, and are on there 2'nd/3'rd and fourth trials just to get it right.

you have to remember when buying a projector is you still need: a screen=very expensive, some type of home audio equipment wich can be super expensive, a ceiling mount (cause just having it on a shelf or table is anoying and gay, need lots of long/good cable for veiwing/power, then mount all that on the ceiling using wire hiders and ---- from homedepot.. when having a projector you really need a dedicated room just for it.. any type of light kills the image.
and thats just a few things.
having a projector tv is not cheap i'll put it that way.

i was almost looking into getting the "Epson Home Cinema 1080 Projector" but when it comes down to doing it all over again. i think i'll just stick to a large rear projector unit like the "Samsung 67" L.E.D. rear projection TV" or possibly the "Mitsubishi 73" DLP rear projection TV" or just wait a few years till the LCD tv's come down in price.. cause right now anything over 52" in an LCD is just ridiculous in price.
the big thing is ounce you have been watching anything that large you will never want to go back to a smaller tv.

my buddy just got a 40" LCD (he had a 46" plasma before) and the LCD just blows it out of the water.. watching Rambo on blue-ray is like watching a brand new movie for the first time. very fluent tv also

---- and who knows what there gonna have in a few more years..


i always do my homework on tv/home audio its what i live for :6

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All good points.

The bulbs they use in the DIY ones aren't hard to find at all. They're just MH lights, which you can buy at lowes or home depot. Of course, the more expensive $50 ones from lumen lab have better color gamut, but still relatively cheap.

Home theater systems are cheap, and most people probably have one.

Here's what's been spent on parts so far:
$300 - 450w eballast, bulb, mogul base, pro fresnels, pro triplet
$50 - 1280x1024 2ms 17" monitor
$0 - couple pc fans

All I need is the enclosure and time to build it, and I'll have a 720p projector. Sure, it'll be bulky and look like crap, but I'll be able to replace the bulbs for cheap, if the LCD goes out or something fucks up, it can easily be replaced/upgraded. If I want better brightness or color spectrum, I can simply change the lighting. If I want 1080p or better contrast etc, I can replace the panel.

They aren't really that hard to build. I built one with tape, cardboard, and the parts in a few minutes. Sure it looked like ----, wasn't focused well, brightness sucked, and so on...but it was also thrown together using no tools or planning, no alignment, etc. The triplet was sitting on a broken piece of styrafoam on the end of a board of wood resting on the top of the couch and weighted in place with a free weight...

The DIY guide has a guide that walks you through getting the correct measurements. The hardest part is just planning how you'll build the enclosure.

It's good for cheap bastards who can find the components for a good deal, and prefers to spend hours putting something together instead of working twice as many hours to buy one.

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Sounds like they're building turbo Hondas.

You sure that site isn't right up our alley?

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it's fitting that he would say something like that, turbo automatic supra and all.

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Wrong guy. This is Noel from the NE Crew, OG CRX guy. Super nice dude, unlike the scam artist you're thinking of, crxmatt or something?