Opinions on remote mounted turbo systems
 

I was reading my latest issue of chevy high pro. when i saw this

http://www.ststurbo.com/i/u/1473169/...ath_view_3.jpg
supposed to keep the turbo cooler, so they say. how would the oil drain back to the pan?

more pics of different cars
http://www.ststurbo.com/i/u/1473169/...nd_exhaust.jpg
http://www.ststurbo.com/i/u/1473169/...Turbo_View.JPG
http://www.ststurbo.com/i/u/1473169/..._4.7L_Kit1.JPG
http://www.ststurbo.com/i/u/1473169/...air_filter.JPG

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I posted about a CRX with a "remote mounted turbo system".. everyone agreed that it wasn't the greatest idea ever.

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you always gotta make everything about you dont ya ;D

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lol.. nah man... you planning on making a kit that would mount in that location, that why you asking?

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nah, my car is factory turbo, i just thought it looked nice, prolly would suck in the rain tho

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i think its kinda cool. but you would need an oil pump in the back of the car or somthing with its own reserve.

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The thing is though.. if its "more efficient", why has NO car companies EVER made a car with factory turbo in that location? ???

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maybe they never thought of it

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....Which conflicts with your screenname. ???


They use a pump to return the oil. I can't see that being more efficient at all.

Think about this. With the turbo all the way back there and the length the exhaust gasses have to go to reach the turbo, how much power do you think has been lost? You can put your hand over the end of your exhaust piep and stall your car. Try putting your hand over the end of a turbo manifold. I bet spool time really sucks with that method. I don't see any advantages over the normal way except now nobody can see a turbo under your hood. Sleeper style fo sho.
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not to thread jack, but has any one else noticed that all the new "TURBO KITS" just put the return on a banjo bolt to the the oil drain plug.

the new greddy kits ans jg eldelbrock kits are like that.


how the hell does that work, i always though the return must be higher than the oil level in the pan.

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Just got it, i dont wanna have to get a new name then start @ zero again

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I hope you're kidding. :-X I'm not up on my "kits", but that is the ------- retarded. Link?
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maybe its more efficient for them to drop the turbo in bolted to the motor on the prouction line. they dont want to drop more pumps in or have another stage in the production of the car. that would be money out there pocket

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At first i thought this was somewhere behind the front wheels but then i look and that ---- goes all the way back. There is no way that would be more efficient, lag would be crazy. I've seen turbos go under the body of cars on V configured engines when there's only a single turbo used, seing as there is no more space in the engine compartment but never that far back. Maybe they think it "feels" faster because boost hits like a mutha when it reaches the engine in that long maze of plumbing. I wonder how much more oil you have to add to compesate for the length of the oil lines :X

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i wonder how coked up thoes lines would get if they went all the way back to the engine compartment :-X

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have you guys ever seen one in person? from what ive seen it seems to work just as well.... sooo

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ya people are running them on trans ams and camaros

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here you go boost

its like 1/2 way down the page. the return goes into the botom of the oil pan WTF???

http://www.greddy.com/tech/RSX_S_TK_PART2.pdf

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I dont know but after seeing that one of my buddies f'ed up this $1.2g ball bearing turbo from simple oil line mistakes I'd still tap it up top.

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the only downside i can see is that if you want to do anything with the turbo or manifold you might have to drain the oil... well you could jsut unhook it from the turbo and leave it on there prop'd up

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That's the only downside you can see? You don't think the oil not draining properly is going to be a problem? ??? I can't believe they actually use that type of drain. These people actually did research on the subject and that is what they came up with? :-\
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it obviously works or they wouldn't do it.

simmmmmmaaaaa down

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Yeah, because if someone did it that means it's fine.

Are you serious?

You do realize the oil drain is gravity fed and if the return line is sitting below the oil level it won't drain?Does that seem like it would be a good idea to you? :-\

The only reason I can see this being a good idea is on the ease of install and the products apperance to the buyer. Now it really is just a bolt-on kit which even the most retarded person can install it since there is no taking off the oil pan, no welding, just bolt-on and go. That makes it look like a better product from the uneducated consumers view point. That doesn't mean it's a good idea from an educated consumers view point.
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if eldenbrock has it in their kit like this guy says. im sure it works and works fine.

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That's something I never understood about oil drains, why is it only gravity fed? If you've got 50psi of oil pressure going into the turbo, and the turbo is enclosed, shouldn't it force oil out at 50 psi?

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That's funny. If "Edelbrock" started selling turbo whistle tips would you buy one? What about alteezas?

BTW, I didn't find that part on Edelbrocks website.
http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/...act/index.html
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no but eldenbrock wouldn't do that.

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yea the pressure wouldnt force it into the pan?

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eldelbrock does have it, i forget what magazine it was, but they showed it when the did the install.

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gee i would jsut love exhaust being vented out just infornt of my GAS TANK.. ::) Im not sure they planned it out very well. i bet it has an oil sump in the car or something pumping the oil back to the engine or hell its own oil supply. looks like that camaro from not too long ago, too bad it wouldent bosot too much you would haveto set the tubo to 30 psi just to get 10 back to the motor ::)

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That link is for a greddy kit ;)

I can see how it works. Liquids ALWAYS find their own level. So the oil level in the return tube would be where it is in the pan. BUT. As oil is taken from the pan via the oil pump it is being replace with what's in the return tube, and thus creates a cycle of oil being taken and "returned".

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That link is for a greddy kit ;)

I can see how it works. Liquids ALWAYS find their own level. So the oil level in the return tube would be where it is in the pan. BUT. As oil is taken from the pan via the oil pump it is being replace with what's in the return tube, and thus creates a cycle of oil being taken and "returned".
i dont see how that would work either, the only way the oil in the return line would be able to enter the pan is if all (or at least most) of the oil is pumped from the pan at one time. the (pressure)weight of the oil in the pan would have to less than the weight of the oil in the return line in order for the return oil to flow in.

so it will just sit there, then you turbo will be fine for a few months, then when it does ---- the seals, you will call greddy and complain and they will say ---- you, you did something wrong.

but then again, you would be an ass for wasting money on that damn kit anyways.

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The oil return line into the oil drain plug does work as long as the turbo itself is above the oil pan. The height of the column of oil in the oil return line determines the pressure. Since that line is higher and longer than the oil pan the pressure will be greater and the oil will force its way into the pan from the bottom. It has nothing to with weight or where the oil enters the pan. This is in a thereoritical situation though, and it may not be the best way to do it in real life. (I'm a physics major so I had to jump in ;) )

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That is the worst setup ever. The reason people do it is becuase its alot easier than trying to fit it under the hood. There are definitely NO gains to have 8 foot charge pipes, waiting for the exhaust gas velocities to be at they're lowest before the turbo and adding a complicated oil system.


Again, this is done not becuase its a good idea, just becuase its a simple and easy way to put a turbo on a car.

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Horrible.

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teh intake is right next to the tire...wouldn't that kick all sorts of water and bullshit right into the intake?

I guess i'm just paranoid since i just hydrolocked my car :'(

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ye, that is a real nasty place to have the filter.


15 psi of water isnt the healthiest thing for your motor.

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well the oil line drainplug should work but come on... how halfass does that sound?

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Don't run through any PUDDLES! That would suck...water that is ::)

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ive got a movie or a rear-mounted turbo camaro if anyone can host it.. its 31.1 mb.. pretty interesting