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only honda at an srt-4 meet....
well i drove up to meet my cousin at a lil meet at hooters today and i had the only honda there.these guys were full of themselves about how everything sucks but the srt-4's.they were making fun of every car that drove through that wasnt a srt.out of 20-25 srt's only 3-5 might have been fast looking at what was under the hood.eveyone else had only bov and intake upgrades and man they just think that bov gives them power cause they all were revin to make it blow.i was like if it wasnt for honda dominating the import scene for years dodge had to build that car to compete so thank honda for the car your driving. :P anyways they were alot of stupid-asses there and only a couple of cool guys.my whole take of the scene was "GAY" so i left not to become infected by there gay egos....
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did they "infect" your anus with gayness :P
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^^^^^you suck >:D
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how could dodge dominate the IMPORT SCENE? lmao
you must have forgot about the 80s. and the dodge 2.2 turbo motors. daytona r/ts, shelby daytonas/omni's and the 80s olds quad 442, one of the fastest NA 4 bangers ive seen. http://notdadsw41.home.att.net/Matt3.jpg http://www.sdsefi.com/features/shelby.jpg |
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That's because they're smart. Realize a trend of 4 bangers, make a car that fits right in.
SRT4 guys are kinda gay, mainly because they think they're true "domestic muscle cars," and yet they hide their true JDMness... haha. |
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Johnny, you're missing the point on this one. The SRT-4 NEON!!! wasn't made because Dodge really wanted to be know for making sporty compact cars, they did it because the import market was becoming too large to ignore. The only import market that you couldn't ignore as a car manufacturer is what kids were doing with honda's. DSM's also contributed to it, but for the most part, GM, Ford, and Dodge only make these cars today because of the craze that honda created.
It's crazy that it worked too, but the fact is that honda started it, and if you drive a sport compact made by one of the big three manufacturers, you fell into thier marketing, because what you really want is a honda. ;) :D |
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well i saw a few srt guys at the track a while ago and they were ok but lately they seem to be homos... dunno about the true american muscle stuff tho.
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dodge made 4 bangers that were fast in the 80s.
hondas are popular because they are cheap, not because of their performance or capability to modify to make fast. what car did honda make the is a "performance" car. s2000? the integra GSR was the first american honda/acura that was supposed to be "peppy" |
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what about the nsx?
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Originally Posted by kain
what about the nsx?
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85 Cr-x Si
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---- yeah quad 4s are awesome motors! My friend used to have an old cavalier with one of those and it hauled ass. And the old 2.2s were bad ass because they were built stout and could handle gobs of boost, just like the srt-4. And honda did put race technology into their cars. If not then we wouldn't have the zc, or vtec. They wouldn't rev as high, or have the ports and combustion chambers they have.
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Originally Posted by FURACERMAN
---- yeah quad 4s are awesome motors! My friend used to have an old cavalier with one of those and it hauled ass. And the old 2.2s were bad ass because they were built stout and could handle gobs of boost, just like the srt-4. And honda did put race technology into their cars. If not then we wouldn't have the zc, or vtec. They wouldn't rev as high, or have the ports and combustion chambers they have.
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The main factor for Honda being the import of choice is availibiliy, price, and interchangability. If GSR's had motors we couldn't put into Civics, or at least weren't as interchangable as all b-series are today, it'd be a different story. The fact that the upper models came with around 100hp/liter is almost a fringe benifit. If Nissan's were in the same boat, I'm sure you'd see many more boosted 240's with SR20DET's with skyline heads/pistons/etc (point reflects B18 parts on a B16).
I don't think you can get away with people buying cookie-cutter pre-made 'muscle cars' being jonny-bolt-on fagtards. Those that do seem faggy have a tendency to judge cars based on what they look like and think the performance of a car can't be improved over factory specs. Basicly, they think strap-ons, I mean bolt-ons, is the only means for speed, and surely a Civic CX that came with a 70hp motor can *never* be faster than their fuel-injected, forced-induction, dual-exhausted 'muscle car'. The problem with Dodge cars from the 80's was their weight. They also didn't have one of Honda's strengths in every car, that being multiport fuel injection. Like hell I'd be caught trying to do ---- to my first '88 Shadow with it's tuned port ---- or whatever it was. It's one of the reasons I won't buy a dodge. They also didn't continue that 'lineage' and make the vast improvements that Honda later did for the 90's. Last thing, for the record, SRT-4 is a trim level - it's still a Neon, which was originally a car made to be 'cute' and appeal to the masses for an entry-level crapmoble. |
Re: only honda at an srt-4 meet....
Originally Posted by HiProfile
The main factor for Honda being the import of choice is availibiliy, price, and interchangability. If GSR's had motors we couldn't put into Civics, or at least weren't as interchangable as all b-series are today, it'd be a different story. The fact that the upper models came with around 100hp/liter is almost a fringe benifit. If Nissan's were in the same boat, I'm sure you'd see many more boosted 240's with SR20DET's with skyline heads/pistons/etc (point reflects B18 parts on a B16).
I don't think you can get away with people buying cookie-cutter pre-made 'muscle cars' being jonny-bolt-on fagtards. Those that do seem faggy have a tendency to judge cars based on what they look like and think the performance of a car can't be improved over factory specs. Basicly, they think strap-ons, I mean bolt-ons, is the only means for speed, and surely a Civic CX that came with a 70hp motor can *never* be faster than their fuel-injected, forced-induction, dual-exhausted 'muscle car'. The problem with Dodge cars from the 80's was their weight. They also didn't have one of Honda's strengths in every car, that being multiport fuel injection. Like hell I'd be caught trying to do ---- to my first '88 Shadow with it's tuned port ---- or whatever it was. It's one of the reasons I won't buy a dodge. They also didn't continue that 'lineage' and make the vast improvements that Honda later did for the 90's. Last thing, for the record, SRT-4 is a trim level - it's still a Neon, which was originally a car made to be 'cute' and appeal to the masses for an entry-level crapmoble. Turbocharging is an old favorite for hotrodders who want more performance out of their vehicle. The creative (and mechanically inclined) car owner can add a turbo to just about anything on wheels, but it sure is nice to start with a vehicle which was turbocharged by the factory... and multi-point fuel injection is a plus, too. Chrysler corporation has sold more turbo-equipped vehicles than any other automaker. These turbocharged engines are a great platform for economical performance and reliability. Many people wonder what they can do to increase the power of their turbocharged car; thus the creation of this web page. Having owned and modified a few Shelby Dodge turbo cars over the years, I have gained a bit of experience in this area. I also stay in close contact with many other Shelby Dodge turbo enthusiasts and the successes they have. What changes would I recommend, based on all of these experiences? Read on. on the other side someone could argue that you can put almost any motor in any car, with a kit some company makes. example v8s in z cars/240sx's/s10s/mazda trucks... ext hondas are cool cause you can take a stock motor from like an integra and put it in a crx and it'll be pretty quick |
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I would buy a neon, srt-4. yes, i would like to own one. i would spend 20grand on one.
i like a car, that in stock form you can crank the boost up to 20psi, and still be "stock". I have drivin one, and was extremly impressed. and dont say, "i could build a car for 20grand and smoke a srt-4 any day so the week" because I will reply, if you couldnt build a faster car for 20grand, you would be a ------- idiot. comparing a built car for 20grand and a brand new car for 20grand, is comparring 2 different things. and I agree with johnny on the fact that chrysler has been building stout 4cyl for many years. you also have to look at the fact that chrysler has the SRT model out in every form, so does chevy, in the form of SS, and ford will soon have something out. therefore, why would they leave the neon out? |
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And you gotta love the mopar upgrades for them, because there's one thing that a "faster car for 20 grand" can't have, and that's a warrenty.
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but back to the original poiint of the thread. Srt-4 and Evo8 guys think their car's were gifts to mankind. they think those damn things are the fastest cars out there. Their so cocky. i havent met a guy with a Wrx that was cocky. but srt4 and evo8 owners=Ghey ;D
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Re: only honda at an srt-4 meet....
Originally Posted by BoosTedZSix
but back to the original poiint of the thread. Srt-4 and Evo8 guys think their car's were gifts to mankind. they think those damn things are the fastest cars out there. Their so cocky. i havent met a guy with a Wrx that was cocky. but srt4 and evo8 owners=Ghey ;D
STI's are the ---- though! and didnt the EVO and the SRT ( NEON ) come after the WRX???????? |
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Nobody cares what dodge made in the 80's. Those cars aren't the reason why today you have a neon turbo running around the streets. You have these cars because honda made a bunch of kids go hog wild over their little civics and for the most part created "The import scene". Back then all the dodge guys were talking ----, and now that's it's this huge market they (and ford, and GM) want a piece of it.
So again, this isn't about who made the first import, it's about why all these domestic "sport compacts" (look, they even changed the "import" name to include themselves ::)) are even being made today. If you trace this big market back to the roots, it's 70% honda, and 30% of old nissans, toyotas, ect. Dodge was just talking ---- in the early 90's when "the scene" was starting to develop, and for that, they can take their bullshit cars and market them at someone who doesn't realize they called us jokes, and now wanna sell us cars. ---- them. |
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WERD O0
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Re: only honda at an srt-4 meet....
Originally Posted by Stealthmode
Nobody cares what dodge made in the 80's. Those cars aren't the reason why today you have a neon turbo running around the streets. You have these cars because honda made a bunch of kids go hog wild over their little civics and for the most part created "The import scene". Back then all the dodge guys were talking ----, and now that's it's this huge market they (and ford, and GM) want a piece of it.
So again, this isn't about who made the first import, it's about why all these domestic "sport compacts" (look, they even changed the "import" name to include themselves ::)) are even being made today. If you trace this big market back to the roots, it's 70% honda, and 30% of old nissans, toyotas, ect. Dodge was just talking ---- in the early 90's when "the scene" was starting to develop, and for that, they can take their bullshit cars and market them at someone who doesn't realize they called us jokes, and now wanna sell us cars. ---- them. I remember back in the day (1991) we had a renault fuego I4 1.6 liter TURBO!!! My dad upped the boost a bit and this thing drove circles around V8's and all the domestic ---- talkers. http://lanex.wz.cz/soukr/r6.jpg I miss this ------- car, I know its looks hideous but it was fast. |
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Originally Posted by Xgenturbo
Originally Posted by Stealthmode
Nobody cares what dodge made in the 80's. Those cars aren't the reason why today you have a neon turbo running around the streets. You have these cars because honda made a bunch of kids go hog wild over their little civics and for the most part created "The import scene". Back then all the dodge guys were talking ----, and now that's it's this huge market they (and ford, and GM) want a piece of it.
So again, this isn't about who made the first import, it's about why all these domestic "sport compacts" (look, they even changed the "import" name to include themselves ::)) are even being made today. If you trace this big market back to the roots, it's 70% honda, and 30% of old nissans, toyotas, ect. Dodge was just talking ---- in the early 90's when "the scene" was starting to develop, and for that, they can take their bullshit cars and market them at someone who doesn't realize they called us jokes, and now wanna sell us cars. ---- them. I remember back in the day (1991) we had a renault fuego I4 1.6 liter TURBO!!! My dad upped the boost a bit and this thing drove circles around V8's and all the domestic ---- talkers. I miss this ------- car, I know its looks hideous but it was fast. and btw, way to go beating 80s v8 monster muscle cars. all those engines sucked balls. you beat 15 second cars! way go to mang!!!!! |
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Originally Posted by random-strike
and btw, way to go beating 80s v8 monster muscle cars. all those engines sucked balls. you beat 15 second cars! way go to mang!!!!!
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Originally Posted by SinisterCRX
Originally Posted by random-strike
and btw, way to go beating 80s v8 monster muscle cars. all those engines sucked balls. you beat 15 second cars! way go to mang!!!!!
that car with a up'd boost is not going to be that fast. but faster than stock z28 camaros of the day. it wont beat any LT1 camaro or corvette. _________________________________________________ 1991 Corvette Mods: Muffler eliminators, K&N, Hypertech Airfoil, Bosch +4, MSD 6-AL, Edelbrock Elite Valve Covers, Comp Cams 1.6 roller rockers, Comp Cams 7/16" studs, Taylor Blue Spiral Pro wires, Open Air lid Performance: 13.73 @ 101mph http://www.speeddemonmotorsports.com...nt%20small.jpg http://www.speeddemonmotorsports.com...1)/engine1.jpg |
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I don't care if SRT-4's are fast. I think they are supa-gay. Ever since an ex-o-mine drove home in a Lilac neon... I couldn't stand the gay factor.
Chrysler 4 bangers sucked ass in the 80's. Yeah, some were quick, but you won't catch me dead in any K-car derived piece of ----. I think some Chrysler owners went through more heads and headgaskets than oil changes. I owned a turbo'd Lancer for a whopping year. And that fuel injection was touchy... You really have to beef them up to be a contender in a daily driven/racing scenario. Mine was quick, but I would pay for it with breakdowns later. Honda's are the way to go in my opinion because: They are damn good reliable cars in the first place.... and hard to screw up. NOT because they are cheap. Affordable? Yes... How many turboed Kia's you heard about? Kia's are cheaper than Hondas, but boosting a KIA would be like asking for it.... I still want to see Kia in racing.... Personally I still like to think the old school import tuning started with VW's. We had a bug that ran 11's NA in the quarter. Full on fiberglass front end and fenders. Lots of my homies ran turbo bugs. Weren't as fast as a Honda though... those engines are strange... and get hot as hell with the air cooled thing going on. |
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If you want to see some Kia's, go over to "streetkiaz.com" - those are some cool guys ::). LoL. Jeff is actually turboing a Kia, we we'll so how quick that thing is haha!
Anyway, StealthMode brings up a really good point about the how reason for the SRTt-4's existence. Most of the articles I've read on the SRT-4 is how it's a "contender" in the sport compact industry. Exactly. They saw a market, so they're going after it. Honestly, I wouldn't have a problem driving one if they weren't so damn ugly. What they offer is good though, the option to go faster and do a bunch of ---- and still keep it under warranty. However, local Acura dealers were doing that with their cars long before Dodge was. It's also funny that the original poster mentioned how SRT-4 owners think their cocks just grew two sizes. I noticed the same thing, yet my brother in law, who just got one after being a hardcore muscle guy for so long, has gained a lot of respect for imports it seems. |
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If there was a sudden surge in muscle car enthusiasts and honda came out with a V8 "muscle car" I'd talk ---- about them too. Honda doesn't make "Muscle Cars", and GM/Ford/Dodge don't make "import cars". Don't think of it as a car, think of it as a culture/sport/arena of hobby and tell me who shouldn't be making IMPORT oops, "SPORT COMPACTS" ::)
I would accept the sport compact name and all the manufacturers coming together if they didn't talk so much ---- before there was money to be made. |
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^^^^damn straight....
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NEON STANDS FOR
N-NEVER E-EVER O-OWNA N-NEON |
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Originally Posted by spoon fed
NEON STANDS FOR
N-NEVER E-EVER O-OWNA N-NEON |
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