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MikeJ-2009 12-05-2007 12:35 AM

Re: One more for Ron Paul
 
In order to scare people into giving up liberty, you must have a crisis. The end.

jacob 12-05-2007 12:49 AM

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aka 9/11

Inquisition 12-05-2007 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealthmode
In order to scare people into giving up liberty, you must have a crisis. The end.

This is such a stupid stance. The global warming issue is fairly simple to understand and hard to argue against. It's the basic idea that 6 billion people are putting different substances into the atmosphere that wouldn't occur if we weren't here. Because of this action, it may be causing climate changes. In order to limit our possible impact on climate changes, we should be more responsible. Why is that such a big deal to people?

I love how people will comment about how they want government out of their life yet are pro-life. Pro-life limits your choices to one. Being pro-choice is not being pro-abortion, it is simply understanding each person is different and they deserve the right to make choices. Pro-choice legislation is incomplete. It only gives rights to the woman, and not the man. A man should be able to make a case to have his fetus aborted or not. It took 2 people to make that baby, but only the woman has the rights in the situation. It's sexist and ridiculous. If I knock up some slut I've seen 4 or 5 times and have an understanding she's not very religious, doesn't have a strong stance on abortion, and is not prepared to have a kid, I should be able to make a case that the child should be aborted. I should also be able to make the case where I believe a girl was religious, stated she was pro-life, and is able to birth a child and petition to have rights over the child after its born.

Also the whole taxes thing, it's a big joke so yuck it up. The government needs a certain amount of money every year. They get it by taxing us. If they take away income tax, they will just raise property and sales tax. There should be less bitching about the types of taxes and how much, but how efficiently the government uses it. People would be less apt to bitch about paying taxes if the roads were nice, clean parks were available, the education system was better, maybe some basic health care was provided, a well equipped army, ect. Instead whatever role the government does have in our society is so ------- inefficient it's sickening. We are willingly hiring and electing morons who throw our money away. It happens also in private industry, but the difference is generally people are held accountable for those ---- ups more often than not.

bluerex 12-05-2007 01:40 AM

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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=58586

:S

Tom-Guy 12-05-2007 08:11 AM

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When we don't even know the weather patterns for the last hundred years, how can we predict massive changes based on the last five?

jeffescortlx 12-05-2007 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Inquisition
If they take away income tax, they will just raise property and sales tax.

At least we have a choice on what products we buy and what property we have. But we are forced into paying off of what we make. Only choice on that one is to quit our jobs.


And there are millions of cow's burping and farting every day, what should we do about them?


Originally Posted by Inquisition
This is such a stupid stance. The global warming issue is fairly simple to understand and hard to argue against. It's the basic idea that 6 billion people are putting different substances into the atmosphere that wouldn't occur if we weren't here.

OK, yes I can see that it is possible for for somthing bad to happen to our planet with all this crap were putting into the air.
But, answer me this question: Do you think it's possible for the planet to have a climate change if there was never a single human on it? Is the ice age our fault to?

Tom-Guy 12-05-2007 02:09 PM

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Inqy is confusing pollution with climate change. Possibly related, but definitely not the same issue.

I predict the next ice age will undeniably be here in the next 1000 years.

Inquisition 12-05-2007 02:28 PM

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Governmental changes = big costs. Most of the time when they get rid of one tax, they add 4 in their place and more comes out of the average persons pocket. Forget that. Not to mention I believe in income tax. Why should some rich ---- who made all his money working in the US not have to pay into the government? He could live cheaply till he was 40 and move to some other country and barely pay into things. The government is always going to get their money from you. Getting rid of income tax isn't going to change that.

As for the cows. Idiots came up with the methane concept. The meat industry is bad for the environment because of all the resources it takes just to get them fat so we can eat them. Lots of shipping, their food, their antibotics, packaging, blah blah blah. It's not considered ecologically friendly. The methane idea is stupid and invalid. Also, do you think we would have as much cattle on the planet if humans weren't around? Com'on.

I think the climate changes naturally. It changed before we were here and will change after we are here. I also believe 6 billion people on the planet play a role on climate changes as well. How big of a role, I don't know, but a role none the less.

Also Joey, I'm not confused. I'm talking about global impact. Pollution is a made up word by the EPA. Pollution is a fancy word for an undesirable byproduct. Global warming's harping point is CO2 emissions allow ultraviolet rays to pass through our atmosphere and warm up the planet. There are plenty of global issues. How about every glass of water you drink has estrogen from girls pissing because they take the pill. I'm just saying, 6 billion people create billions and billions of problems. One of them might be because we are here, the climate is changing.

PS: They have accurate ways of telling the temperature on the earth. It's similar to carbon dating, unless you don't believe in that either.

Racintweek 12-05-2007 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
When we don't even know the weather patterns for the last hundred years, how can we predict massive changes based on the last five?



glad to know i'm not the only one that sees this

Tom-Guy 12-05-2007 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Inquisition
How about every glass of water you drink has estrogen from girls pissing because they take the pill.

I'm much more concerned with exposure to real quantities of estrogenic compounds, for example the aromatherapy dipshits who douse their households with high concentrations of ---- that is incompatible to, and unwanted by, Y chromosomes wielders.



Originally Posted by Inquisition
PS: They have accurate ways of telling the temperature on the earth. It's similar to carbon dating, unless you don't believe in that either.

If you are talking about stoma concentrations on leaf fossils and correlating it to CO2 levels in the past, yes I am aware of it. This fossil record indicates that CO2 levels on the earth's surface have been two to five times as high as they currently are a dozen times in history before the rise of man.

Your point concerning this is?


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