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Tom-Guy 12-03-2007 04:18 PM

One more for Ron Paul
 
http://news.aol.com/story/_a/paul-en...26112509990001

That tips the scales for me, anybody a pimp would vote for gets my vote too.

Jorsher 12-03-2007 04:59 PM

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bwahahaha...ron paul's automated wife called me today ::)

I told that bitch don't call me again but she just kept talking.

Cray91 12-03-2007 08:42 PM

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This article was just written to incite a straw-man argument from the opposition.

"Just look at Ron Paul, he is pushing for prostitution right here in our towns"

As a libertarian I get that ---- all the time. People think an ideal weekend for Libertarians is pulling the plug on grandma, smoking a joint and getting a hooker. It is much more about the govt getting the hell outta my life.

Tom-Guy 12-03-2007 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cray91
pulling the plug on grandma, smoking a joint and getting a hooker.

I'm not feeling you on the pot. That ---- makes you stupid, bro.

scottsi 12-04-2007 12:42 AM

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Correct me if im mistaken, but doesnt Ron paul want to remove all forms of taxes?

Jorsher 12-04-2007 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
I'm not feeling you on the pot. That ---- makes you stupid, bro.

Correction: You are either naturally stupid and don't use it responsibly, or are intelligent and use it in moderation while still getting ---- done.

I could argue alcohol makes you stupid, and alcoholism is failure.

Scott I don't know...

Tom-Guy 12-04-2007 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Jorsher
Correction: You are either naturally stupid and don't use it responsibly, or are intelligent and use it in moderation while still getting ---- done.

I could argue alcohol makes you stupid, and alcoholism is failure.

I could prove you are dumb as a box of rocks.

Random Hero 12-04-2007 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
I could prove you are dumb as a box of rocks.

JD, you dont have to be nice about it. You could prove that a box of rocks is smarter.. O0

theebluecrx 12-04-2007 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by scottsi
Correct me if im mistaken, but doesnt Ron paul want to remove all forms of taxes?

Yes but once he finds out he wont have a check he will change his mind.Unless he's rich and has a crx.

Tom-Guy 12-04-2007 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Random Hero
JD, you dont have to be nice about it. You could prove that a box of rocks is smarter.. O0

Correct. I kept attempting to send Josh more money for more monitors, but he was too full of fail and AIDS to make money off me.

buk9tp 12-04-2007 09:04 AM

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no ron paul does not want to remove all forms of taxes ::)

Jorsher 12-04-2007 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Correct. I kept attempting to send Josh more money for more monitors, but he was too full of fail and AIDS to make money off me.

Nah, just have other means of making more money quicker. Also, the laziness (natural laziness, not pot-induced) exceeds my will to make a few bucks. I have to stand in line for anywhere from 30-60 minutes to make $20-30 in most cases. Was better than my payrate, but it also meant I'd have to wake up and leave my desk.

Oh, and I didn't want to disappoint you my balding friend. I'm out of blank dvds/cds, and my printer ink is empty...so your pornographic packaging would be nonexistent.

Tell me what the hell you want, and I'll get someone to work to stand in line.

MustangC. 12-04-2007 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by scottsi
Correct me if im mistaken, but doesnt Ron paul want to remove all forms of taxes?

youre mistaken so heres your correction. he wants to get rid of INCOME tax, seeing as its not a legit tax and all.

JoshMO 12-04-2007 04:03 PM

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I agree with CoreyR
check out my myspace page I have a lot of information on there regarding this issue.
www.myspace.com/josh30747

d16forlife 12-04-2007 04:11 PM

Re: One more for Ron Paul
 
Who is this Ron Paul and what his last name? :1

jeffescortlx 12-04-2007 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CoreyR
youre mistaken so heres your correction. he wants to get rid of INCOME tax, seeing as its not a legit tax and all.

yeah saw somthing on youture about income tax. I guess it's unconstiutional, and only voluntary.
And yes he only want to get rid of the tax on our labor.
Kinda dumb really, have to pay on tax on the money you have to make to pay other taxes.

MikeJ-2009 12-04-2007 08:01 PM

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Ron Paul believes that the founders of the country would never give the government the right to tax your labor and take it from you before you even got it (or never got it). If you are to be taxed for something, it will be when you buy something, not just because you made a dollar.

Mike Huckabee says he wants to do away with the IRS as well, but he also claims he didn't tax the hell out of Arkansas when he was governer, and he's also running away from his "global warming is something the government should fix" position either. He's a pro-life democrat.

jeffescortlx 12-04-2007 09:01 PM

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Any one else think global warming is a ------- joke and only a reason to open the door for another tax and more control for the g0vernment?

d16forlife 12-04-2007 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffescortlx
Any one else think global warming is a ------- joke and only a reason to open the door for another tax and more control for the g0vernment?

Yeah, the ice caps are melting for no reason. Polar bears are dying hungry for the fun of it. California just had over 200 days with no rain because people voted for Arnold. Pretty much a joke ::)

jeffescortlx 12-04-2007 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by d16forlife
Yeah, the ice caps are melting for no reason. Polar bears are dying hungry for the fun of it. California just had over 200 days with no rain because people voted for Arnold. Pretty much a joke ::)

I'm not saying there is'nt a change in climate, but I dont it's our fault the planet is going though it's normal cycle.

MikeJ-2009 12-05-2007 12:35 AM

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In order to scare people into giving up liberty, you must have a crisis. The end.

jacob 12-05-2007 12:49 AM

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aka 9/11

Inquisition 12-05-2007 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealthmode
In order to scare people into giving up liberty, you must have a crisis. The end.

This is such a stupid stance. The global warming issue is fairly simple to understand and hard to argue against. It's the basic idea that 6 billion people are putting different substances into the atmosphere that wouldn't occur if we weren't here. Because of this action, it may be causing climate changes. In order to limit our possible impact on climate changes, we should be more responsible. Why is that such a big deal to people?

I love how people will comment about how they want government out of their life yet are pro-life. Pro-life limits your choices to one. Being pro-choice is not being pro-abortion, it is simply understanding each person is different and they deserve the right to make choices. Pro-choice legislation is incomplete. It only gives rights to the woman, and not the man. A man should be able to make a case to have his fetus aborted or not. It took 2 people to make that baby, but only the woman has the rights in the situation. It's sexist and ridiculous. If I knock up some slut I've seen 4 or 5 times and have an understanding she's not very religious, doesn't have a strong stance on abortion, and is not prepared to have a kid, I should be able to make a case that the child should be aborted. I should also be able to make the case where I believe a girl was religious, stated she was pro-life, and is able to birth a child and petition to have rights over the child after its born.

Also the whole taxes thing, it's a big joke so yuck it up. The government needs a certain amount of money every year. They get it by taxing us. If they take away income tax, they will just raise property and sales tax. There should be less bitching about the types of taxes and how much, but how efficiently the government uses it. People would be less apt to bitch about paying taxes if the roads were nice, clean parks were available, the education system was better, maybe some basic health care was provided, a well equipped army, ect. Instead whatever role the government does have in our society is so ------- inefficient it's sickening. We are willingly hiring and electing morons who throw our money away. It happens also in private industry, but the difference is generally people are held accountable for those ---- ups more often than not.

bluerex 12-05-2007 01:40 AM

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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=58586

:S

Tom-Guy 12-05-2007 08:11 AM

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When we don't even know the weather patterns for the last hundred years, how can we predict massive changes based on the last five?

jeffescortlx 12-05-2007 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Inquisition
If they take away income tax, they will just raise property and sales tax.

At least we have a choice on what products we buy and what property we have. But we are forced into paying off of what we make. Only choice on that one is to quit our jobs.


And there are millions of cow's burping and farting every day, what should we do about them?


Originally Posted by Inquisition
This is such a stupid stance. The global warming issue is fairly simple to understand and hard to argue against. It's the basic idea that 6 billion people are putting different substances into the atmosphere that wouldn't occur if we weren't here.

OK, yes I can see that it is possible for for somthing bad to happen to our planet with all this crap were putting into the air.
But, answer me this question: Do you think it's possible for the planet to have a climate change if there was never a single human on it? Is the ice age our fault to?

Tom-Guy 12-05-2007 02:09 PM

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Inqy is confusing pollution with climate change. Possibly related, but definitely not the same issue.

I predict the next ice age will undeniably be here in the next 1000 years.

Inquisition 12-05-2007 02:28 PM

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Governmental changes = big costs. Most of the time when they get rid of one tax, they add 4 in their place and more comes out of the average persons pocket. Forget that. Not to mention I believe in income tax. Why should some rich ---- who made all his money working in the US not have to pay into the government? He could live cheaply till he was 40 and move to some other country and barely pay into things. The government is always going to get their money from you. Getting rid of income tax isn't going to change that.

As for the cows. Idiots came up with the methane concept. The meat industry is bad for the environment because of all the resources it takes just to get them fat so we can eat them. Lots of shipping, their food, their antibotics, packaging, blah blah blah. It's not considered ecologically friendly. The methane idea is stupid and invalid. Also, do you think we would have as much cattle on the planet if humans weren't around? Com'on.

I think the climate changes naturally. It changed before we were here and will change after we are here. I also believe 6 billion people on the planet play a role on climate changes as well. How big of a role, I don't know, but a role none the less.

Also Joey, I'm not confused. I'm talking about global impact. Pollution is a made up word by the EPA. Pollution is a fancy word for an undesirable byproduct. Global warming's harping point is CO2 emissions allow ultraviolet rays to pass through our atmosphere and warm up the planet. There are plenty of global issues. How about every glass of water you drink has estrogen from girls pissing because they take the pill. I'm just saying, 6 billion people create billions and billions of problems. One of them might be because we are here, the climate is changing.

PS: They have accurate ways of telling the temperature on the earth. It's similar to carbon dating, unless you don't believe in that either.

Racintweek 12-05-2007 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
When we don't even know the weather patterns for the last hundred years, how can we predict massive changes based on the last five?



glad to know i'm not the only one that sees this

Tom-Guy 12-05-2007 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Inquisition
How about every glass of water you drink has estrogen from girls pissing because they take the pill.

I'm much more concerned with exposure to real quantities of estrogenic compounds, for example the aromatherapy dipshits who douse their households with high concentrations of ---- that is incompatible to, and unwanted by, Y chromosomes wielders.



Originally Posted by Inquisition
PS: They have accurate ways of telling the temperature on the earth. It's similar to carbon dating, unless you don't believe in that either.

If you are talking about stoma concentrations on leaf fossils and correlating it to CO2 levels in the past, yes I am aware of it. This fossil record indicates that CO2 levels on the earth's surface have been two to five times as high as they currently are a dozen times in history before the rise of man.

Your point concerning this is?

jeffescortlx 12-05-2007 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Inquisition
I think the climate changes naturally. It changed before we were here and will change after we are here. I also believe 6 billion people on the planet play a role on climate changes as well. How big of a role, I don't know, but a role none the less.

And thats it, we can try to make educated guess and predictions. But the only way to really know is to have an identical planet earth with no people on it as a control. And since thats never gonna happen, I have a feeling there gonna find some way to tax us and make it appear there gonna fix the problem, when they really have no control over it.

Jorsher 12-06-2007 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
I'm not feeling you on the pot. That ---- makes you stupid, bro.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/show...Number/7721391 :P

Sorry, had to. Based on who did the study, I'm sure you'll claim that it's biased or whatever. But covering 5,200 students, I'm sure they'll get pretty general numbers.

:6 :6 :6 = :S ^-^

:6 :6 :6 != :1

MikeJ-2009 12-06-2007 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Inquisition
In order to limit our possible impact on climate changes, we should be more responsible. Why is that such a big deal to people?

Because when it trickles down to real life people, we face higher taxes on anything the government can "relate" to global warming, we aren't allowed to tap into real energy sources that don't cost us the arm and leg the ones we're using now cost, and state governments pass idiotic laws like reducing the speed limit to 55 based on the "fact" that all cars' fuel efficiency drops after 55mph (voted on today by MN). All in the name of "possible" man made global warming, and amounting to dick. It's a ploy by big government hacks.



Originally Posted by Inquisition
I love how people will comment about how they want government out of their life yet are pro-life. Pro-life limits your choices to one.

Nobody said ---- about being pro-life, and I'm not sure what your rant is about anyway. Ron Paul doesn't want to make the whole world pro-life, he wants to get the federal government out of state issues, one being abortion.



Originally Posted by Inquisition
Also the whole taxes thing, it's a big joke so yuck it up. The government needs a certain amount of money every year. They get it by taxing us. If they take away income tax, they will just raise property and sales tax.

Welcome to how it's always been. If you believe the government has the right to take your money before you see it, and send it to (insert foreign country here) without your consent, and while OUR country is 9 trillion dollars in debt, then keep doing what you're doing. If you think that's wrong, come give me a hummer and vote for Ron Paul.


Originally Posted by Inquisition
Not to mention I believe in income tax. Why should some rich ---- who made all his money working in the US not have to pay into the government?

Now that we've determined you're into the politics of envy, I can tell you that
1) You don't have a right to anyone elses' money.
2) You don't recieve any of thier money.
3) No matter how many "evil" successful people get a tax increase, your government still doesn't know how to handle money and will be in debt.



Originally Posted by Inquisition
I think the climate changes naturally. It changed before we were here and will change after we are here. I also believe 6 billion people on the planet play a role on climate changes as well. How big of a role, I don't know, but a role none the less.

Sounds like a reasonable argument for standing around while China drills our oil off our coast, turning the country into a windmill farm, and regulating the death of people. You might look into the connection of cafe standards and traffic accident deaths. Contrary to popular believe, fuel efficient tin cans aren't as safe as gas hog tanks. So much for freedom of choice.
Also, I shall have you look up the statistics of those who die from cold weather, and those who die from warmer weather. Man-made global warming is a politically correct hoax, and blonde high school bitches are HOT.

Jorsher 12-06-2007 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealthmode
Because when it trickles down to real life people, we face higher taxes on anything the government can "relate" to global warming, we aren't allowed to tap into real energy sources that don't cost us the arm and leg the ones we're using now cost, and state governments pass idiotic laws like reducing the speed limit to 55 based on the "fact" that all cars' fuel efficiency drops after 55mph (voted on today by MN). All in the name of "possible" man made global warming, and amounting to dick. It's a ploy by big government hacks.

Well, the efficiency DOES drop with higher speeds. I forget the rate, but I know like every few mph it drops. Much more air resistance and thus more force against you. But regardless, I think it's stupid to do it for global warming.


Originally Posted by Stealthmode
3) No matter how many "evil" successful people get a tax increase, your government still doesn't know how to handle money and will be in debt.

Amen to that. I'm sure everyone here has heard stories of the government spending stupid-huge amounts of money on crap you can get at walmart for a dollar. The government would be much less likely to blow money if it had less to play with? Then again it'd probably throw us more into debt when they didn't...

Money causes a shitload of problems, along with human's being more focused on personal gain than what would be the most beneficial to the world. Can't say I haven't been guilty of it myself, but not to the level they are.

MikeJ-2009 12-06-2007 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jorsher
Well, the efficiency DOES drop with higher speeds. I forget the rate, but I know like every few mph it drops. Much more air resistance and thus more force against you.

I would like to see the report that says all cars, regardless of weight, gearing, etc.. could fall under such a bullshit claim.


Slo_crx1 12-07-2007 12:12 PM

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As far as the "climate change" and "global warming" bullshit goes, consider this. In the late 1800's and early 1900's this country was dependent on coal and wood for heat and any other form of power. During the "age of industry" we pumped more ---- into the atmosphere than in the last 20-30 years, and if you look back at the average and record temps during that time period, they were generally colder than what it is today. All plant life on this planet thrives on co2, and if you payed attention in 2nd or 3rd grade biology plants take the co2 out of the air and convert it back into oxygen breathable by animals and humans. ----, when we exhale we're basically expelling mostly co2, so if their arguments are based towards that then maybe they should tell the world that they need to hold their breath so as not to deplete the oxygen content and keep it in check to the co2 levels. :P Their arguments are total bullshit, and is just another way for the gov't to make money off the people. Think of this...the gov't mandates stricter emissions laws to "lower pollution". Stricter emissions means less oil consumed to keep up with higher standards. Less oil used means you can now raise the price of oil because vehicles are now more efficient, and people are buying less oil than they used to. If oil costs stayed the same, the gov't and companies would lose money. Make oil seem like a scarcer commodity and you can raise the price even higher and add in even more "clean air type" taxes. It's sad to say, but the american gov't is a complete waste of life. Where I work (gov't depot fixing military electronics) they waste more money of stupid ---- than any company I've ever seen. They spend over $350 for one capacitor, the same one you can go to the local radio shack and pick up for .80 cents. Resistors coming in at $85 a pop, transistors that range up to $500. ----, just the Traveling Wave Tubes we get from Boeing for the radar I build is upwards of $15,000. Talk about the fleecing of america, and it's your tax dollars that are spent to buy this ----. :P

Jorsher 12-07-2007 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealthmode
I would like to see the report that says all cars, regardless of weight, gearing, etc.. could fall under such a bullshit claim.

What claim is bullshit? The one that cars lose mileage once they reach a certain speed?

b18. 12-07-2007 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
I'm not feeling you on the pot. That ---- makes you stupid, bro.

CBD stored in fatty tissue that carry out neural-trasmissions in the Periatal lobe. The Periatal lobe is in charge of your visual attention, tactile perception, goal oriented motivation and manipulation of objects. THC is metabolized very quickly and has no long lasting effects. The reason it effects this part of the brain most markedly is peptides that are utilized in that lobe are of similar pH value, so the CBD binds to the sites and "fogs up" transmissions.

Alcohol is nuerotoxic in any amount and incurs long lasting damage to grey matter.

The latter is only legal because people fought hard enough against prohibition, because they felt that the government was invading personal freedoms. It's the same ---- with the drug war, b/s hype-a-ganda that gets blown way out of proportion because people are uneducated and downright stupid, and because they are uneducated and stupid nothing in the way of personal liberties gets done.

People should be educated enough to ---- themselves up with whatever they want.

Besides regulation would get rid of the hyper-inflated black market prices of illicit drugs as well as quality control.

Politics are nonsense.

Random Hero 12-07-2007 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealthmode
In order to scare people into giving up liberty, you must have a crisis. The end.

Stevemode FTW and for 08

signorelli21 12-08-2007 12:21 AM

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the taxes thing is bogus and ron paul is the only one saying this, basically not one dime of your income tax dollars pays for any social program at all, it all pays interest on the national dept. the rest of the ---- mentioned is paid for by other taxes and oddly enough is handled on the state level, except there is a big fed dept that supercedes the state authority and does nothing but cost money, its these departments that ron paul wants to do away with.

global warming may exist but theres not alot that can be done about it anymore than can be done to change the weather, people like al gore are making alot of money telling people otherwise and trying to convince us that we need a carbon tax to help pay for um, whatever. then you have the department of energy giving farm subsidies to gigantic several thousand acre farms to grow corn for ethenol production which is the worst source of plant fiber to distill in the first place and actually consumes more energy in production than then end product provides. this fucks the small farmers because they can't compete and causes more corn to be sold for fuel making us import from countries like china and bla bla bla, they could just use hemp, but its illegal.

also even if we stopped all emmisions in this country and everyone held there breath you would still have young industrialized countries like india and china building several coal fired power plants every month, are we going to invade them to save the planet?


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