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J-SMITH69 11-03-2008 05:20 PM

Re: obongo's aunt is an illegal alien
 

Originally Posted by rudebwoy
remember I built my house in Germany, but I am still American even though I was born and raised in Jamaica. I do whats best for the country I defend, vote for for bush's great grand father, and his nurse , and I will never be out job free, because I can relocate to Iraq. and after grampa died the US will be worst than it is right now.
we have to rebuild our relationship with the world sir, rebuild our economy, and quickly but efficiently get out of of Iraq. if you were serving your country like you supposed to you would understand how important it is to vote for OBAMA. it does means that I would get a pay cut because the republicans supports the military more than the democrats, but thats the price I am willing to pay for world peace.

clueless. your ramblings barely make any sense.

you will realize that no president can make other people like us. obama will not bring world peace. world peace will never happen and is impossible. obama can do nothing to rebuild our economy. he will destroy it with huge tax and extreme regulation and gigantic government

you don't have a clue. will you cry and be "disheartened" if obama's presidency does nothing to solve any problem you think we have?

how will obama "rebuild" our economy?
how will obama bring world peace?
how will obama make other countries like us?

do you think when obama gets elected everyone that hates us will put down their arms and give kissy faces?

rudebwoy 11-03-2008 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
will you cry and be "disheartened" if obama's presidency does nothing to solve any problem you think we have?

do you think when obama gets elected everyone that hates us will put down their arms and give kissy faces?


MAYBE ;)

they like him more than mccain

how will obama make other countries like us?
they like him more than bush

J-SMITH69 11-03-2008 05:52 PM

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:1

j3w 11-03-2008 05:52 PM

Re: obongo's aunt is an illegal alien
 
obama would be nice to have over for dinner, he's nice, charismatic, and has a great demeanor. as far as the CINC goes, i'd much rather have the grizzled badass that not only survived 4 years of torture in a POW camp, but jokes about it. i'm convinced that mccain could whoop chuck norris and kimbo slice, and a mere phone call from him as president would make chavez ---- his pants. mccain isn't going to die, he'll probably outlive all of us, because the grim reaper can't take him out.


CspecRun 11-03-2008 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
you can't make compromises. either we are free or we are not. nothing government does is a GOOD IDEA.

I agee with alot of what you say Johnny, but you do get a lil carried away sometimes. Ultimate freedom would pretty much be the equivalent of anarchy. If ppl had the freedom to go out and do WHATEVER THE ---- THEY WANT, we would definitely live in a state of total disarray. If say 95% of the population possessed above average work ethic and common sense then yeah, things might work out relatively well. BUT unfortunately, alot of ppl have long since gave up on trying to raise their children with decent values, and have pretty much gave up on having any worthwhile values themselves. For the MOST PART, I believe the media is to blame for that. I don't expect ppl to be saints or anything, but ppl should GENERALLY try to respect one another and take RESPONSIBILITY for their actions. And that goes for EVERYBODY...white, black, brown, yellow, red, you name it. We're pretty lucky to live somewhere that we can wake up in the morning and go to work to make a NICE living or get a DECENT education. Some ppl just want EVERYTHING handed to them, they don't wanta work for ----...The downfall of this generation is it's general laziness, and I don't know if ANY type of gov't or leadership will fix that ----....

J-SMITH69 11-03-2008 07:22 PM

Re: obongo's aunt is an illegal alien
 

Originally Posted by CspecRun
I agee with alot of what you say Johnny, but you do get a lil carried away sometimes. Ultimate freedom would pretty much be the equivalent of anarchy. If ppl had the freedom to go out and do WHATEVER THE ---- THEY WANT, we would definitely live in a state of total disarray. If say 95% of the population possessed above average work ethic and common sense then yeah, things might work out relatively well. BUT unfortunately, alot of ppl have long since gave up on trying to raise their children with decent values, and have pretty much gave up on having any worthwhile values themselves. For the MOST PART, I believe the media is to blame for that. I don't expect ppl to be saints or anything, but ppl should GENERALLY try to respect one another and take RESPONSIBILITY for their actions. And that goes for EVERYBODY...white, black, brown, yellow, red, you name it. We're pretty lucky to live somewhere that we can wake up in the morning and go to work to make a NICE living or get a DECENT education. Some ppl just want EVERYTHING handed to them, they don't wanta work for ----...The downfall of this generation is it's general laziness, and I don't know if ANY type of gov't or leadership will fix that ----....

i get this argument all the time. and please stop jumping to ridiculous conclusions.

i already said i do not want arachy. arachy does not work obviously. i want the government the founders made for us. limited government, personal freedom.

not huge government and a nanny state.

if the govt stopped taking money from people to give to other people, those people would have to get it for themselves. that will fix it. because those people will have no choice in the matter. their free cheese is gone.

its not specifically "this generation" its been many generations. the "new deal" was the worst thing to ever happen to this country.

i really don't care how people raise their children, and its really irrelevant. i think you have the wrong impression of what our constitution allows government to do. just because there is a problem doesn't mean government is the solution for it. very very very very very rarely does government "solve a problem" they create problems, then say they will solve them. its idiotic.

if people want to raise their worthless kids to be worthless losers, i do not care the slightest. as long as they don't petition the government to steal my money and give it to them.

ryandeeznutz503 11-03-2008 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike

how will obama "rebuild" our economy?


One step that Obama spoke about is to negotiate to ------ change NAFTA policies to favor the United States or at least eliminate it . To make it fair for WORKING United States workers. NAFTA is screwing me, other americans, and Companies that depend on money circulating. McCain is an serious advocate of free trade in the US senate. He voted for every disastrous free-trade agreement since NAFTA.I have not heard John McCain speak of changing on NAFTA. Example of NAFTA destroying Americans, In Oregon, people working over at Freightliner, builder of semi-trucks, lost their jobs to Mexico. I and other Americans would like jobs to stay in America. Not go to Mexico and China. I would not be surprise that Boeing might end up in Mexico in a few years.


Frieghtliner moving to Mexico
http://www.argusobserver.com/article...5630288947.txt

Ron Paul on NAFTA
http://citizen.typepad.com/eyesontra...ul-for-fr.html

J-SMITH69 11-03-2008 07:35 PM

Re: obongo's aunt is an illegal alien
 

Originally Posted by ryandeeznutz503

One step that Obama spoke about is to negotiate to ------ change NAFTA policies to favor the United States or at least eliminate it . To make it fair for WORKING United States workers. NAFTA is screwing me, other americans, and Companies that depend on money circulating. McCain is an serious advocate of free trade in the US senate. He voted for every disastrous free-trade agreement since NAFTA.I have not heard John McCain speak of changing on NAFTA. Example of NAFTA destroying Americans, In Oregon, people working over at Freightliner, builder of semi-trucks, lost their jobs to Mexico. I and other Americans would like jobs to stay in America. Not go to Mexico and China. I would not be surprise that Boeing might end up in Mexico in a few years.


Frieghtliner moving to Mexico
http://www.argusobserver.com/article...5630288947.txt

Ron Paul on NAFTA
http://citizen.typepad.com/eyesontra...ul-for-fr.html

post some information about what obama says about nafta.

the unions that require 35/hr to torque bolts onto pieces of metal are what is making everything move to different countries. how can anyone honestly think they should be paid so much for doing so little. when you add in all the benefits they make 100k+. thats why lame shitty cars cost 30k and all the jobs are moving to other countries.

i am for free trade. and trading with other countries. all the lame regulations and everything in those nafta bills are what make it bad. trading with other countries is a good thing.

J-SMITH69 11-03-2008 07:37 PM

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take the source with a grain of salt if you wish
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=57422

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art..._nonsense.html


Obama's culprit is Mexico, our third-largest trading partner. It is trade deals like NAFTA -- the 1993 accord eliminating tariffs among the U.S., Mexico, and Canada -- that "ship jobs overseas and force parents to compete with teenagers for minimum wage at Wal-Mart," Obama intones. Feel inspired yet?

The big picture doesn't justify this Dickensian evocation of gloom. Since 1993, the U.S. economy has grown by 54 percent. The jobless rate has dropped from 6.9 percent in 1993 to 4.9 percent today. Manufacturing output has increased by 63 percent. Canada and Mexico are our first- and second-largest export markets, and U.S. merchandise exports to them have increased at a slightly faster clip than exports to the rest of the world.
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008...fumbles-nafta/


Barack Obama is not quite sure where he stands on the North American Free Trade deal. He has changed his position on several occasions, all the while claiming to be consistent. Mr. Obama needs to establish a trade policy that does not shift according to the preferences of the audience he is courting.

Reddy 11-03-2008 07:40 PM

Re: obongo's aunt is an illegal alien
 

Originally Posted by random-strike
how will obama "rebuild" our economy?
how will obama bring world peace?
how will obama make other countries like us?


here you go:

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/


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