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OnYx 08-04-2004 03:49 AM

NTSB Recommends Black Boxes For All Cars
 
I swear this government gets any bigger and im going to move. ::) you know what this will lead to, "we saw him speeding and here is your ticket in hte mail" ------- controlling jerks :-\

Officials at the National Transportation Safety Board are recommending the government require data recorders in all passenger vehicles. David Sobel of EPIC says his group has privacy concerns - especially when drivers are unaware of the presence of the devices

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...841EDT0330.DTL

Semnos 08-04-2004 06:27 AM

Re:NTSB Recommends Black Boxes For All Cars
 
I would just take it out of my car.
If it's embedded in the ECU I would buy a standalone...problem solved. ;D

SkunT 08-04-2004 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Semnos
I would just take it out of my car.
If it's embedded in the ECU I would buy a standalone...problem solved. ;D

I would wire mine into my grandmas car. just hook more than one up at the same time in the slowest car I own.

turbohf 08-04-2004 12:11 PM

Re:NTSB Recommends Black Boxes For All Cars
 
if it comes to that i will learn how a carb works and buy an old iron POS...err 'classic' car ::)

deacon2377 08-04-2004 12:48 PM

Re:NTSB Recommends Black Boxes For All Cars
 
It is already happening on smaller scales. rental cars have begun putting black boxes and GPs units in their cars to accurately track mileage on their cars. Plus, if you take the car out of state when you told them you werent going to, they can find out and charge you. They can also track how fast you traveled. People claim that soon they will charge you more to rent a car from them if they see that you were speeidng the last time you rented from them. Also, think about Onstar. It is basically a GPS/car controller with a 2 way radio. Onstar knows where your car is, if your airbags were deployed, etc. Granted, it is nice to have such a service in case of an accident, theft, lock out, etc., but who is to stop them from looking at the data to determine how fast you were going when you crashed into another car? The insurance companies would love to get their hands on that type of info. All of this ---- worries me, b/c I value my privacy a lot, and I do not think that driving habits are the only cause of accidents.

MikeJ-2009 08-04-2004 12:53 PM

Re:NTSB Recommends Black Boxes For All Cars
 
I will never have a black box in my car. I don't give a ---- what anybody says.

SkunT 08-04-2004 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by deacon2377
It is already happening on smaller scales. rental cars have begun putting black boxes and GPs units in their cars to accurately track mileage on their cars. Plus, if you take the car out of state when you told them you werent going to, they can find out and charge you. They can also track how fast you traveled. People claim that soon they will charge you more to rent a car from them if they see that you were speeidng the last time you rented from them. Also, think about Onstar. It is basically a GPS/car controller with a 2 way radio. Onstar knows where your car is, if your airbags were deployed, etc. Granted, it is nice to have such a service in case of an accident, theft, lock out, etc., but who is to stop them from looking at the data to determine how fast you were going when you crashed into another car? The insurance companies would love to get their hands on that type of info. All of this ---- worries me, b/c I value my privacy a lot, and I do not think that driving habits are the only cause of accidents.

dam, i never thought of things this way...that sucks.

I wonder if rental companys can tell if you take the car through a corn field and done doughnuts with there cars and ---- like that. lol.

bambooseven 08-04-2004 02:22 PM

Re:NTSB Recommends Black Boxes For All Cars
 
the black box, if something that unconstitutional ever were to exist. will be easily crackable. all of the inputs will be electronic, therfor we will be able to use an "AFC" type of thing and just change the inputs before they reach the box. No big deal, except for the whole BIG BROTHER-NESS. It'll never fly anyway, there is no way.

J-SMITH69 08-04-2004 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealthmode
I will never have a black box in my car. I don't give a ---- what anybody says.

i agree

turbohf 08-04-2004 02:39 PM

Re:NTSB Recommends Black Boxes For All Cars
 

Originally Posted by sccaeg

Originally Posted by deacon2377
It is already happening on smaller scales. rental cars have begun putting black boxes and GPs units in their cars to accurately track mileage on their cars. Plus, if you take the car out of state when you told them you werent going to, they can find out and charge you. They can also track how fast you traveled. People claim that soon they will charge you more to rent a car from them if they see that you were speeidng the last time you rented from them. Also, think about Onstar. It is basically a GPS/car controller with a 2 way radio. Onstar knows where your car is, if your airbags were deployed, etc. Granted, it is nice to have such a service in case of an accident, theft, lock out, etc., but who is to stop them from looking at the data to determine how fast you were going when you crashed into another car? The insurance companies would love to get their hands on that type of info. All of this ---- worries me, b/c I value my privacy a lot, and I do not think that driving habits are the only cause of accidents.

dam, i never thought of things this way...that sucks.

I wonder if rental companys can tell if you take the car through a corn field and done doughnuts with there cars and ---- like that. lol.

hope not....you see the 03 Rally video? we recorded it...sure hope they didnt :o


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