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UnIdentifiedFreak 05-01-2005 08:36 PM
Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
Hey I'm 17 and I have been learning from you guys for awhile and there is alot of great information on this site. Anyway I have a 87 mazda rx7 which I am dropping in a chevy 350 with around 350hp. Don't flame me for putting an american motor in an import, but go ahead and flame about anything else. I am a car guy and I know car guys like to see what others have done so here are some pictures. I havent started the swap yet, but I have almost all the parts.

http://bob.rampagesession.com/images/DSC00391.JPG
http://bob.rampagesession.com/images/DSC00392.JPG
http://bob.rampagesession.com/images/DSC00393.JPG
http://bob.rampagesession.com/images/DSC00394.JPG
http://bob.rampagesession.com/images/DSC00395.JPG
http://bob.rampagesession.com/images/DSC00397.JPG
http://bob.rampagesession.com/images/DSC00398.JPG

Thats it, have fun

91dxcrx 05-01-2005 08:40 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
that's gonna be sick >:D

kain 05-01-2005 08:41 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
bastard. your car is almost exactly like mione. except in way better condition. give me the engine.

UnIdentifiedFreak 05-01-2005 08:44 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
Well, I would give you the rotory, but i guess it blown. I bought the car like it is not running condition for $350, hah.

accordepicenter 05-01-2005 08:44 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
Well... thats one way to go fast... reminds me of chevy 350s in those early Z cars, very nice

kain 05-01-2005 08:50 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
Originally Posted by UnIdentifiedFreak
Well, I would give you the rotory, but i guess it blown. I bought the car like it is not running condition for $350, hah.
---- mang i dont care. i bet that ---- runs. and o yeah, you might wanna upgrade the drivetrain to a turboii tranny before you get underway, mainly because the moment you lay ajny power on the stock you you got, pop. o and get the 5 lug conversion. youll get bigger breaks and an lsd in the back.

UnIdentifiedFreak 05-01-2005 08:54 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
Yeah I have a turbo II rear, just not in the pics. Anyway can I get a link or something to the 5 lug conversion you are talking about?

UnIdentifiedFreak 05-01-2005 08:56 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
Another thing, should I try to get that bitch to run? Any links to some good engine starting tips or something along those lines?

Sevenlover 05-01-2005 08:56 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
Well whats wrong with it...throw a good battery in and crank away....

SpankedYA! 05-01-2005 08:57 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
Every RX-7 I have seen with a small block had horrible tracking issues. Always yanks really hard to the right.

boosted_hatch_216 05-01-2005 08:57 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
what tranny were you planning on running? manual or automatic? that'll be a bitchin set up.

UnIdentifiedFreak 05-01-2005 08:59 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
Automatic T-350, mostly because its alot cheaper then say a t-5 or t-56. Plus then I can use my sweet ass B&M Hammer shifter.

stenseltizm 05-01-2005 08:59 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
The tII rear will have the 5 lug conversion. you just need tII front rotors, calipers, hubs and such. oh yeah and an rx7 tranny won't work with the 350. http://www.grannysspeedshop.com/ has all kinds of info on that conversion. including custom parts

UnIdentifiedFreak 05-01-2005 09:00 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
Oh yeah, the tracking thing where it pulls to the right is due to the powersteering setups, I dont have ac or power steering heh. The T-350 WILL work, granny's doesnt recommend it for street cars, because on the highway the rpms are to high, gets really annoying blah blah.

stenseltizm 05-01-2005 09:01 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
Originally Posted by UnIdentifiedFreak
Another thing, should I try to get that bitch to run? Any links to some good engine starting tips or something along those lines?
Every one of those cars around here that the owner said was blown, it turned out to be either the apex seals(actually blown) or more often it was the fuel pump.(easy cheap fix)

UnIdentifiedFreak 05-01-2005 09:03 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
oh hah, i thought you said that the turbo 350 wouldnt work, yeah i know the stock tranny wont work. Its a manual right now, when its done it will be an automatic.

crx2fast 05-01-2005 09:03 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
looks like its gonna be fun 8)

Sevenlover 05-01-2005 09:04 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
Originally Posted by stenseltizm
Originally Posted by UnIdentifiedFreak
Another thing, should I try to get that bitch to run? Any links to some good engine starting tips or something along those lines?
Every one of those cars around here that the owner said was blown, it turned out to be either the apex seals(actually blown) or more often it was the fuel pump.(easy cheap fix)
Ive never heard of fuel pumps going out..Check your filters and do a compression test..How many miles?

stenseltizm 05-01-2005 09:04 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
Originally Posted by UnIdentifiedFreak
Oh yeah, the tracking thing where it pulls to the right is due to the powersteering setups, I dont have ac or power steering heh. The T-350 WILL work, granny's doesnt recommend it for street cars, because on the highway the rpms are to high, gets really annoying blah blah.
The T-350 will definately work, its the easiest way to go, but the tII will probably have 4.11's and with no overdrive will have shitty top end. but killer launches. a 700r4 is a little harder to hook up, but you can keep the 4.11's and still have decent top speed and gas mileage.

accordepicenter 05-01-2005 09:06 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
700R4s are weaksauce... seen a couple grenade

UnIdentifiedFreak 05-01-2005 09:07 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
It has about 135 thousand miles.

Anyway, I plan on using the stock rearend tell it goes out. Im not sure what I'll do when it does, use the tII rear or not. The stock rear has 3.90 ratio.

stenseltizm 05-01-2005 09:07 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
Ive never heard of fuel pumps going out..Check your filters and do a compression test..How many miles?
Yeah all three of the ones my buddy bought the fuel pumps were siezed. a little pb blaster and a hammer usually got it to work. out of 5 that we bought with a (blown motor) only one actually had bad apex seals. a comp test is deffinately the way to go.

Sevenlover 05-01-2005 09:09 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
Originally Posted by UnIdentifiedFreak
It has about 135 thousand miles.

Anyway, I plan on using the stock rearend tell it goes out. Im not sure what I'll do when it does, use the tII rear or not. The stock rear has 3.90 ratio.
You'll be fine with the stock rearend man. Ive seen them take alot of abuse.

stenseltizm 05-01-2005 09:09 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
Originally Posted by accordepicenter
700R4s are weaksauce... seen a couple grenade
Pre '87 are deffinatley weak, but '87 and newer can handle some decent power. if tweaked a little, they can be pretty damn good. that's what i have in my camaro. 400 sbc with no turbo :-[

UnIdentifiedFreak 05-01-2005 09:12 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
Here are some more pics

http://bob.rampagesession.com/pictur....JPG&show=full
http://bob.rampagesession.com/pictur....JPG&show=full
http://bob.rampagesession.com/pictur....JPG&show=full
http://bob.rampagesession.com/pictur....JPG&show=full

stenseltizm 05-01-2005 09:12 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
Originally Posted by Sevenlover
Originally Posted by UnIdentifiedFreak
It has about 135 thousand miles.

Anyway, I plan on using the stock rearend tell it goes out. Im not sure what I'll do when it does, use the tII rear or not. The stock rear has 3.90 ratio.
You'll be fine with the stock rearend man. Ive seen them take alot of abuse.
I've seen those cars take alot of abuse, we've outrun the cops N/A quite a few times when I still hung out with the shady pieces of ---- croud. with a racing beat header and a decent intake, they breathe real well

accordepicenter 05-01-2005 09:12 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
go new and big tyme... 4L80E haha JJ. yeah ive seen a handful of early 80s trucks and camaros and shyt blow up 700r4s, the sad part was the cars/trucks were either stock or lightly modified... im talkin like a 305 with a dual exhaust and thats it...

UnIdentifiedFreak 05-01-2005 09:15 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
Its really funny I am going to have about $4,000 spent to have it running and I only spent $350 on the car... It will be ------- reliable though!

stenseltizm 05-01-2005 09:18 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
Yeah that engine looks sweet as hell is that a crate? I say do what you want with it, the weight distribution will be fucked up just a little, and they'll flame the ---- out of you at rx7club.com but it'll run like a fucker.

UnIdentifiedFreak 05-01-2005 09:21 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
Its a rebuilt 350 from a local machine shop. Actually once I remove all the bullshit rotory stuff and move the battery to the back it will be 50/50 weight distro.

stenseltizm 05-01-2005 09:23 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
Originally Posted by UnIdentifiedFreak
Its a rebuilt 350 from a local machine shop. Actually once I remove all the bullshit rotory stuff and move the battery to the back it will be 50/50 weight distro.
Yeah, with some aluminum ---- and a few less accessories, you can get your weight distribution pretty close. It just takes some hard work to get it right.

boosted_hatch_216 05-01-2005 09:24 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
yeah ive seen a couple of 700r4's go out. i blew the one in my truck before i owned it and my brother blew the one in his truck when we were turning a corner one day. the 700r is more for the person whose gonna be driving on the highway or freeway alot. have you though about pullin one of the old 5 speeds from the old comaros? or pickin up an old school 4 speed from the pontiacs? i personally like manual alot more.

UnIdentifiedFreak 05-01-2005 09:27 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
I like manual too, but with the power I'm making it won't matter. And for a quality rebuilt T-350 its only $400 from a guy my dad knows.

Sevenlover 05-01-2005 09:28 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
Weight distribution is not a problem..Barely noticeable....you will miss the rotary sound though...

stenseltizm 05-01-2005 09:29 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
Originally Posted by boosted_hatch_216
yeah ive seen a couple of 700r4's go out. i blew the one in my truck before i owned it and my brother blew the one in his truck when we were turning a corner one day. the 700r is more for the person whose gonna be driving on the highway or freeway alot. have you though about pullin one of the old 5 speeds from the old comaros? or pickin up an old school 4 speed from the pontiacs? i personally like manual alot more.
The t-5 you're speaking of hardly could handle the hp of the 305 that went with it. It probably wouldn't hold up well to a 350. It might do ok for a while with that high of a rearend gear ratio, but not worth all the work of putting it in. the t-350 is probably the best thing to do, and deffinately the easiest, I was just suggesting the 700r4 for highway gas and topend speed. They behave the same as a t-350 on lower end, cause the 700r4 is basicallly a t-350 with od. the newer ones honestly don't hold up too bad if kept cool.

UnIdentifiedFreak 05-01-2005 09:29 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
Here is a teaser pic of my dad's hotrod. No pics of the car yet. This 454 bored to 496 cubic inches is going into a rare 1934 Ford Victoria.

anyway here she is, 500hp NA, heh

http://bob.rampagesession.com/pictur....JPG&show=full

stenseltizm 05-01-2005 09:30 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
Originally Posted by Sevenlover
Weight distribution is not a problem..Barely noticeable....you will miss the rotary sound though...
And the ability to wind out to 8k without a sweat. I miss those sounds with the sirens driffting off in the distance...

Sevenlover 05-01-2005 09:30 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
Originally Posted by stenseltizm
Originally Posted by boosted_hatch_216
yeah ive seen a couple of 700r4's go out. i blew the one in my truck before i owned it and my brother blew the one in his truck when we were turning a corner one day. the 700r is more for the person whose gonna be driving on the highway or freeway alot. have you though about pullin one of the old 5 speeds from the old comaros? or pickin up an old school 4 speed from the pontiacs? i personally like manual alot more.
The t-5 you're speaking of hardly could handle the hp of the 305 that went with it. It probably wouldn't hold up well to a 350. It might do ok for a while with that high of a rearend gear ratio, but not worth all the work of putting it in. the t-350 is probably the best thing to do, and deffinately the easiest, I was just suggesting the 700r4 for highway gas and topend speed. They behave the same as a t-350 on lower end, cause the 700r4 is basicallly a t-350 with od. the newer ones honestly don't hold up too bad if kept cool.

T-5's are pretty stout..Arent all foxbodys running T-5's factory..Question for Rs...

Sevenlover 05-01-2005 09:34 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
Originally Posted by stenseltizm
Originally Posted by Sevenlover
Weight distribution is not a problem..Barely noticeable....you will miss the rotary sound though...
And the ability to wind out to 8k without a sweat. I miss those sounds with the sirens driffting off in the distance...
You only rev to 8k.... ::) My fully built T11 handles 12k-13k revs all day long... 8)

UnIdentifiedFreak 05-01-2005 09:35 PM
Re: Not a honda, not a 4 banger, no turbo(yet)
 
Originally Posted by Sevenlover
Originally Posted by stenseltizm
Originally Posted by Sevenlover
Weight distribution is not a problem..Barely noticeable....you will miss the rotary sound though...
And the ability to wind out to 8k without a sweat. I miss those sounds with the sirens driffting off in the distance...
You only rev to 8k.... ::) My fully built T11 handles 12k-13k revs all day long... 8)

HOLY ----! have any 1/4 mile times?


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