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B16MIKE 11-25-2004 10:57 PM

new project i might be doing..look...
 
i have a chance to get a 97 crv 5speed.i need the bigger vehicle for the family.BUT,i have an idea to pull out the b20 drop in my built turbo b16 out my integra.drop the b20 in my integra and sell it off.i would have an all wheel drive turbo crv,what you think? I mean i do need a family car but with hmt love.... ;)

Dr.Boost 11-25-2004 11:03 PM

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It's going to suck when those sleeves crack..........
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B16MIKE 11-25-2004 11:05 PM

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no see i am not using the b20 i would use the motor out my integra to put in the crv...built b16 turbo in a crv.

Scottsi 11-25-2004 11:14 PM

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you have a b16 in a integra?

kain 11-25-2004 11:14 PM

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the awd system cant handle the torture from a regular non boosted crv engine.

B16MIKE 11-25-2004 11:21 PM

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i have seen videos and pics with write-ups on an drifting awd integra and an awd crx turbo/gsr.why couldnt handle my set up then?the drifting integra would be more brutal than i would ever be to this project.

B16MIKE 11-25-2004 11:26 PM

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keep in mind i am not going to be street draggin this car. all i want is to salvage my motor out my integra in the process of getting a new family ride.the interchangable b-series.

willahlborn 11-26-2004 01:45 AM

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sounds like a plan. BUT i'm guessing you would get alot more for your integra if you left the b16 in, even if it wasn't boosted.

Ravage70 11-26-2004 01:49 AM

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did u ever think about that torque ull need to make the tores move?

HMTguy 11-26-2004 01:51 AM

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I still think you could get decent money for the B20 integra. You have a kickass idea, I would love a turbo CRV. You might miss the lack of about 20 or so ft-lbs, but then again when that turbo is spoolin will you really care? ;)

Paperchase013 11-26-2004 06:39 AM

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a b16 in a crv??? i thought my d15 in a 4dr gsr was bad.

B16MIKE 11-26-2004 09:04 AM

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I have too much money in my b16 to letit go.rods,pistons,complete valvetrain no way is some other dipshit getting those goods.11 psi on a b16 in crv t3/t4 turbo still will get up and go.

tekno9998 11-26-2004 10:29 AM

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That ---- would be awesome 8) The ricers wouldnt know what hit them :o and theres a big difference between putting a d series in a newer teg like a ------- idiot and puttin a boosted b16 that is better then the b20 that is currently in it.

HondaTuner 11-26-2004 12:45 PM

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I would do it man. That would kick so much ass. See, I told people that in the future if I get an older Honda Odyssey for the family (with the F22), its definitely getting some boost love. A fast minivan would be the pimpest ---- to go and pick up the kids with :P

R-MAK 11-26-2004 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Paperchaser013
a b16 in a crv??? i thought my d15 in a 4dr gsr was bad.

your kidding right ?

B16MIKE 11-26-2004 07:17 PM

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I wonder if somebody makes an lsd for the tranny.

all8280bcc 11-27-2004 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Travis

Originally Posted by Paperchaser013
a b16 in a crv??? i thought my d15 in a 4dr gsr was bad.

your kidding right ?

I second this notion...WTF!!

BoosTedZSix 11-27-2004 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by B16MIKE
I wonder if somebody makes an lsd for the tranny.

dude its AWD. what more do u want..hahaha

HondaTuner 11-27-2004 09:59 AM

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That shiz would be pimp though. I really like the sounds of this project

Donald125 11-27-2004 10:18 AM

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i am pretty sure it`s gonner be REALLY laggy when u have a full load

tekno9998 11-27-2004 10:39 AM

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Nah if the turbo is sized correctly for the jobs the crv will be doing then the drivability should be way better than the b20

Spenser 11-27-2004 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Travis

Originally Posted by Paperchaser013
a b16 in a crv??? i thought my d15 in a 4dr gsr was bad.

your kidding right ?

lol, what you do is, Buy a GSR, swap the motor, brakes, and sway bars from your EK, then put the GSR back up for sale, pimpness 8)

SpankedYA! 11-27-2004 11:02 AM

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B16's make no torque. That thing will suck to drive daily. You'll have to rev the piss out of it.

R-MAK 11-27-2004 11:09 AM

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lol, this thread is silly.

HondaTuner 11-27-2004 11:13 AM

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The CRV B20's only makes 133 ft/lbs of torque @ 4300. And what, a B16 is like, 113 @ whatever? His is a built B16 (I'm assuming rods and pistons). I'm sure the torque curve will be just as good as the B20 or better. I don't see the problem with him swapping the B16 into the CRV.. IMHO, I still see it as being pretty sweet.

Dr.Boost 11-27-2004 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SinisterCRX
The CRV B20's only makes 133 ft/lbs of torque @ 4300. And what, a B16 is like, 113 @ whatever? His is a built B16 (I'm assuming rods and pistons).

I would assume that he lowered the compression in that motor so he lost a bit of torque right there.
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tekno9998 11-27-2004 11:16 AM

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Im pretty sure the built b16 with a properly sized turbo will have way more grunt down low than the b20 ::)

Dr.Boost 11-27-2004 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by tekno9998
Im pretty sure the built b16 with a properly sized turbo will have way more grunt down low than the b20 ::)

Well, I don't think a T3/T4 is the proper sized turbo for that project.


11 psi on a b16 in crv t3/t4 turbo
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HondaTuner 11-27-2004 11:22 AM

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https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...3218#msg283218

There's his setup:

[1990 integra][b16a2][eagle rods][srp pistons][s.s. valves w/titanium retainers and springs][ys1 tranny][pro clutch][johnnyracecar fmic][tial 38mm wastegate][rev hard manifold][turbonetics t3/t4][2.5'' charge pipes and downpipe][homemade boost controller][aem cam gears][dsm450cc injectors][str fuel fail][walbro 255lph intank fuel pump][autometer guages][92-95 civic dual core radiator][p28 ecu chipped running uberdata][obd1 conversion w/95gsr dizzy][battery relocated to trunk][unknown bov][arp head studs][aem fpr]

He never posted a dyno or anything.. but I'm sure it aint bad ;)

B16MIKE 11-27-2004 11:24 AM

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I dont khow why some think it will be laggy or tourqeless.my engine is built and with 11psi untuned it hauls in my integra i am guessing 210-220hp.transfer all that into the crv TUNED with a bit more boost it would not be a bad daily driver.still have the power to move it loaded or not.

Dr.Boost 11-27-2004 11:26 AM

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We're talking about puting a motor from a 2500 pound car into a 3200+ pound car. Big difference. Not to mention having a considerable amount of additional drivetrain loss.
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tekno9998 11-27-2004 12:03 PM

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And still making more torque and hp than the origonal engine

Dr.Boost 11-27-2004 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tekno9998
And still making more torque and hp than the origonal engine

Yeah, maybe PEAK, but that would mean you have to be into it to move the heavy ass CRV. Compare the torque curves of the two motors. Peak power won't mean ---- for drivability. If you can't make any torque until 6000rpms, how is that going to work out in a daily driven 4wd grocery getter?
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tekno9998 11-27-2004 12:51 PM

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Yeah but a b16 with a smallish turbo should be able to make the same or better numbers down low as the b20

HondaTuner 11-27-2004 01:02 PM

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However, he has a turbonetics t3/t4 on it. Might be a bit too laggy for the CRV. :-\

tekno9998 11-27-2004 01:50 PM

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He could alwayz trade for somthing a lil smaller and quick spooling becuase i dont think traction will be an issue with this project :P

B16MIKE 11-28-2004 01:16 PM

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Yes i could that is why we call them projects instead of finished products.a t3 super 60 would be a good snail.less critisism and more input please.i think the torque issue is covered :P

Semnos 11-28-2004 03:25 PM

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I would do it.
Don't let that engine go to waiste...
Drop that B20 like it's Hot.

Dr.Boost 11-28-2004 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Semnos
Drop that B20 like it's Hot.

Yep, and then hype up the Integra with the B20 swap.

"Yeah, I swapped in this B20 because it has more torque. I ran an 11.4 on street tires at the track with this setup."
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Donald125 11-29-2004 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by B16MIKE
Yes i could that is why we call them projects instead of finished products.a t3 super 60 would be a good snail.less critisism and more input please.i think the torque issue is covered :P

no it`s not :P
imgaine you are carrrying 5 ppl in the car. (almost 4000lb)
1)up front is a really steep hill.
2)u got full load of grabage in the back
3)you just came to a complete stop
4) the car behind u didn`t leave u no room to roll back
now do u think u have enough room to rev pass the laggy rpm (1 - 2 K with a SMALLE TURBO i assum?) before the turbo STARTS to built boost?
oh well
:P :D



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