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http://www.ontariostreetcar.com/showthread.php?t=601

Please disregard comments on the website as the dip ---- doesn't know what hes talking about. at one point he states that 350 should be enough to take this car into the 12's which is complete bullshit but i found it amusing. But he DOES have pics of the new challenger and its sexy.

http://www.ontariostreetcar.com/gall...k.php?file=520
http://www.ontariostreetcar.com/gall...k.php?file=521
http://www.ontariostreetcar.com/gall...k.php?file=522

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---- ya im digging it.If it comes out like that then I think it will be a big hit as they nailed the retro thing perfect.Hemi muscle cars making a come back :y

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I dont see why 350 wouldnt put it in the high 12s, arent ls1 camaros near that with only like 305? Anyway, I like the look of those cars.

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Mid 13s with a 346 (if I remember right)

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4th Gen SS hits 13 flat.

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Some will do real high 12's. Takes a good driver and a healthy car, on DOT or normal slicks. And "stock" LS1 have laid down as much as 340 whp, with 320 whp being the "usual" for the automagic cars.

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I dunno I was just thinking it looks like a heavy ass car but then again its not like the camaro is a slim jim either so you may be right.

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Been seeing pics of them for a while. Pretty damn hawt indeed.

I'd still prefer a new camaro though.

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320 with a 6mt. not saying it cant happen, but most a4s are stuck right around 300/290's

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looks like a camaro more than anything. dodge is dumb, the hemi is ----, and they only offer limited lifetime exclusionary powertrain warranty because the banks backing their finances/loans fell through, and their stock dropped like turbos off of an ssac manifold

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I WILL HAVE ONE... Boosted within the first 6 months of course....

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i like it a lot

the hemi in the trucks is 345h 390tq

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Those are not Dynojet-approved numbers, Petey-Pie.

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wow. it really does. In fact it looks like the same damn car just a slightly different Gril and tail lights.

http://images.motortrend.com/feature...front_view.jpg
http://www.madness-us-cars.com/actua...sformers-1.jpg
http://blogs.cars.com/photos/uncategorized/camaro6.jpg

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it almost looks like the camaro body shape wise, but god damn, the front end of the camaro is the ugliest thing I've seen since the early 90's sunfires and neons

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Didnt the Chrysler Corp. just sell out to a private firm. I believe the Challenger will stay at what it is,CONCEPT. Financing, manufacturing capability cause it shares the same components of the 300C and alike chassis. And from reading Automotive Today over 3 months ago they said that factory is maxxed out and would not beable to handle another model. So with them having to build a new or reman a closed ford factory to make this car"And I'm sure it would sell liike hotcakes" the cost of having all new machinery and not adapting older ones to run new parts like they do, I just dont see it happening. But I could of missed a updated article.

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Its ALWAYS somewhat mimicked the Camaro to a degree, just boxier in true Mopar fashion... My pee pee got hard the first time I saw it... And Im thinking it needs a couple 35rs on it....

Come to think of it... My pee pee is hard now...
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4 banks were backing peugot/fiat/renault or whoever it was, french company, was going to buy chrysler's name, but the rates dropped, the banks said no because they would make no profit, this was a few months after damlier sold them because of what a shitbox they became, and dodge threw out the lim lifetime powertrain on half of their models, the ones with no hp to destroy the trans's

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I like alot of the newer Dodge cars. Charger, challenger(if it happens?), 300, they all look pimp and I've seen some that sounded extremely healthy. :y
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I was told by a dodge dealer earlier this year that the Challenger would come out in 08 and would make around 425 at the rear wheels, but that could've just been car dealer bullshit. It'll never equal the original(nor will any of these other RETRO cars) but it's still a pretty nice looking car. They did ALOT better job than they did with the Charger....they should've at least offered the R/T model cars as a 2 door. And NONE of them really have Hemi's...

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Chrysler was sold (Well 80%) to Cerebrus (sp?) still 20% interest by mercedes....


You will see Challengers on sale feb 8th 2008

I am sitting in a chryselr dealership right now (I work here)

1st versions will be SRT8's , follwoed by Hemi's , then 3.5's.

Dealers have already sold out of allotments.

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i'm pretty sure the new challenger will be much much faster than the challenger of the 60s... seriously...

the srt8 challenger will probably make 425hp, but the normal hemi one won't

and if you think those old challenger ran anything but mid 14s you're crazy!

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i think it looks pretty good for the old/new blend car companies are doing now

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Old Darts did :P

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Yea challenger is beautiful in comparison, I never noticed how much so until you put them side by side. As far as looking similar, almost all the muscle cars have that same swooping bulged out rear quarterpanel look with the gaping front end

They didn't have much to work with if they were keeping it retro ::)

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only about 100 of them...

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I'd scalp many O0 for a '68 Hemi Dart with the original white paint/black hood... Gone are the days of factory race cars being sold to the public.

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So you think the new HEMI engine is a better engine and capable of more power than the HEMI of old, what were they 426 small block and 511 big blocks(I don't know if factory cars were available with the big block)?? Yeah, in stock trend the newer, lighter car will probaly be superior to the older car in terms of acceleration(and probaly many other terms). But if you put equal amounts of money into both engines, which do you think will respond better to the money you put into. How much will it cost you to supercharge or turbo the new gen Hemi engine with all the OBD2 and emissions bs you have associated with that engine. Now compare that to the $$ needed to boost the small block, CARBURATED hemi. I wonder what FearsomeDan has in his sbc?? Bet it wouldn't take much more to do tha same to the hemi...

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511ci Hemi stock? Don't think that ever happend. Chrysler Hemi's were 392 and 426. Realize, building a 426 based Hemi today is more expensive than you want to think about. So figure $40k for a nice one making 700-800hp.. $40k into an LSx will get you a fuckton more. Oh yeah, have fun with the old Hemi valvetrain ;D There are no big/small block Hemi's....

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no one said anything about modified or cost. why do people always bring this type of ---- into an arguement about stock cars.

the new challenger will smoke an old one in every category

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---- 10k into a lsx youd be around a thousand horsepower.

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The E code hemi darts (Factory produced track cars) had 650ish WHP, no warranties, lightweight fenders., no mirrors, and a few other things that the rest didnt... Usually, they werent even painted either.

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o rly? news to me. that much power sold to the public in a chassis with bad brakes (all muscle cars) = :X

any pic links for this car?

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http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicl.../photo_01.html
http://www.is-it-a-lemon.com/used-ca...hurst-hemi.htm

As a side not, American Muscle Car on Speed Channel did an engine dyno test of some of the biggest muscle car era V8's, and the 426 street hemi put out over 750ish crank hp. Not too shabby for something rated at 425 :S Wish they did things like that today.

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What? That doesn't sound right AT ALL. :1
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And Darts with hemi's can't turn full lock because the fender wells are cut out for the headers. Saw it on TV :1

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http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=1&tID=127168

Think the first post in that thread is the from the same TV show... Pretty sneaky I think. But it was on an Engine Dyno, so :-\

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OBD2???? Chrysler runs CAN-BUS on all their new cars...

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Did their transmissions come with gears designed by M.C. Escher? ???

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