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Chris Harris 11-13-2006 11:20 PM

Neptune RTP Finally released!
 
I know we cater to more of the beginning fuel management setup here, but I am certainly pretty excited to be able to offer Neptune RTP to everyone now. The boards have been tested and they are in final assembly.

For those of you used to Crome/Uberdata/Hond$t$...Nepune is a breath of fresh air, and with the numbers that some of these Neptuners have been putting out lately...that power can now be at your fingertips as well :y

http://www.nehondatuning.com/h-t/Neptune-RTP.gif

Neptune RTP Boards are FINALLY a reality.

$450 Shipped :thumbup:

http://www.-------------/image/neptuneRTP.jpg

http://www.-------------/neptune.php?page=RTP

I promise you the wait and anticipation were all worth it. James (HR Tuning) has put out an exceptional product with the help of all his original Neptuners, testers and Craig Moates (Moates.net)

I have been lucky enough to be added as one of the elite who are able to sell these fabulous boards to the professional and public alike. As it stands the boards are expected to be in my hands around the 1st of December and shipping as soon as I receive them. I have ordered (100) and I really don't expect them to last all that long.

We are GUARANTEEING you receive this board by XMAS or your money back as well. I don't want anyone to feel like this is a tease by any sort of the imagination so I am offering this time sensitive guarantee to ease your mind if any delays should arrive.

ALL boards ordered (pre-paid) during this sale by members living in the Continental US will be shipped out Next Day Air UPS as part of this offering. Hawaii & Alaska residents will receive USPS Express Mail (1-2 day) and Canada residents will receive Global Express Mail shipping. All shipments will be fully insured and you will receive tracking no. confirmation to the email you use on your Paypal (we ship through Paypal to your verified address). If using Paypal, you NEED to have a Verified Paypal shipping address or we cannot process your order. Instead of Paypal you can use a credit card to verify your shipping address. If you do not have a verified address, we do accept Money Orders mailed in to the address on our site.

We also ship WORLDWIDE. If you are outside of the US, please PM or email me through the link on the site to arrange for a shipping quote. Please do not ask us to undervalue the package on these boards as you are not allowed to insure an international package for more than its declared value and I will be fully insuring each and every package.

Also, as part of this promo, ALL Innovate Motorsports Widebands and accessories will be offered at 15% off retail pricing when coupled with a RTP Board purchase. If you dont see something you need on the site, please email or PM us.

http://www.-------------/image/neptuneRTPecu.jpg

ECUs fully modified and tested with RTP Board are available on the Pre-Sale special page too.

Please feel free to ask any questions here that I may not have covered or PM me for more info/questions.

If upgrading from a previous Neptune tune, please go straight to your Neptune Dealer. The on board logging feature is not activated as of yet.

JDMFantasy2K 11-13-2006 11:35 PM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 
BADASS! How does neptune compare to crome and uberdata?

Inquisition 11-13-2006 11:38 PM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 
When is the software going to be available for download?

Tom-Guy 11-13-2006 11:46 PM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 
Is that a Dallas DS1230AB or -Y? Are you or James planning on warrantying the board when the NVSRAM dies, because IIRC those are only rated for 1000 write cycles. I know they'll last a good bit longer, but there will be a significant percentage of failures in the field since it's mass produced.

I can probably calc that percentage to three or four significant digits for Inqy's dumb ass. :P

Inquisition 11-13-2006 11:48 PM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 
8 sig figs or I'm calling BS.

JonDouglas 11-13-2006 11:49 PM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 
Wow! I just read all the features on their site. Looks like a killer toolkit. I was wondering when the Honda camp would get a factory ECU based software with that many options to edit.

Neptune RTP looks to be: :o :6

Too bad I can't afford it: :(

Tom-Guy 11-13-2006 11:52 PM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 

Originally Posted by Inquisition
8 sig figs or I'm calling BS.

I'll only give you seven, and we'll take bets on the 8th.

Inquisition 11-13-2006 11:55 PM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
I'll only give you seven, and we'll take bets on the 8th.

Sorry, I gamble with american dollars, not food stamps. :-*

Tom-Guy 11-13-2006 11:55 PM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 
Wow, I swear the samples I got a couple years back had a fairly low number of write cycles for flash memory, but Maxim's site says it's unlimited:

http://www.maxim-ic.com/quick_view2.cfm/qv_pk/2648

I officially withdraw my objection. Looks like good stuff!


Originally Posted by Inquisition
Sorry, I gamble with american dollars, not food stamps. :-*

We haven't seen any food stamps in the trailerpark in quite a while. Not since they started requiring photo ID to use them. :-\

Sinner 11-14-2006 12:08 AM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 
Is neptune a stand alone ecu? for 450 dollars i hope so.. I must be missing something? why is an ecu required?

Chris Harris 11-14-2006 12:14 AM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 

Originally Posted by Sinner
Is neptune a stand alone ecu? for 450 dollars i hope so.. I must be missing something? why is an ecu required?

Neptune is a software, the RTP board interfaces with the ECU and allows for real time adjustments and datalogging throught the same channel. The features are phenomenal and the product second to none at this point.

An ECU is required to run the car...

Neptune is $450
Hondata S300 is $595

AEM is $1000+
Autronic is $1800+
Motec is $3000+

I dont see the problem...nothing runs a Honda like a Honda ECU. :6


Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Is that a Dallas DS1230AB or -Y? Are you or James planning on warrantying the board when the NVSRAM dies, because IIRC those are only rated for 1000 write cycles. I know they'll last a good bit longer, but there will be a significant percentage of failures in the field since it's mass produced.

I can probably calc that percentage to three or four significant digits for Inqy's dumb ass. :P

I think Moates knows what he's doing there tough guy O0


Originally Posted by JDMFantasy2K
BADASS! How does neptune compare to crome and uberdata?

Far surpasses both at the moment, everything works, connectivity is solid, pain-free and FAST.

jinxy 11-14-2006 12:22 AM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 
would it be immoral to pirate neptune boards and software? :4

Chris Harris 11-14-2006 12:24 AM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 

Originally Posted by rawr
would it be immoral to pirate neptune boards and software? :4

i am pretty sure most of the delay in the board production was encryption and protection of the software...so good luck on that!

jinxy 11-14-2006 12:26 AM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 

Originally Posted by xenocron
i am pretty sure most of the delay in the board production was encryption and protection of the software...so good luck on that!


everything can be undone.

Chris Harris 11-14-2006 01:08 AM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 
yes it would be immoral


Originally Posted by rawr

everything can be undone.


quadnie 11-14-2006 01:52 AM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 
Chris,

So I'm about 3 steps away from OBD1+turbo upgrades. I'm interested in doing some more business with you; can you give us an update on bluetooth functionality of this new release?

Chris Harris 11-14-2006 08:43 AM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 
Blue Tooth is functional, just waiting on pricing before I go crazy promoting it...

88crex 11-14-2006 10:31 AM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 
i'll stick with my aem

koreanwilcox 11-14-2006 10:51 AM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 
Can you give some examples of why this is better than Crome?

I'm really not familiar at all with Neptune but have used both Uberdata and Crome in my personal car. What makes this worth spending the extra $$?

I'm not a super tuning geek, I just know the basics, but am still interested in hearing about this.

ososlohatch 11-14-2006 02:27 PM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 

Originally Posted by 88crex
i'll stick with my aem

stick with www.honda-tech.com ---- face

bigdaddyvtec 11-14-2006 02:33 PM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 

Originally Posted by xenocron
Blue Tooth is functional, just waiting on pricing before I go crazy promoting it...

Any updates Chris????

Chris Harris 11-14-2006 02:35 PM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 

Originally Posted by ej1 wilcox
Can you give some examples of why this is better than Crome?

I'm really not familiar at all with Neptune but have used both Uberdata and Crome in my personal car. What makes this worth spending the extra $$?

I'm not a super tuning geek, I just know the basics, but am still interested in hearing about this.

Examples,

- single wire or blue tooth connectivity, not one connection for datalogging and one for the Emulator
- all functions WORK, one person programs them...there are 5 hundred different versions of the same plugin that are all broken floating around confusing people and causing issues
- complete and total ability to set inputs and outputs for a variety of different systems (nitrous, water injection, etc)
- Dual Map capability for anything really...but extremely helpful when tuning ITB setups
- All extra correction maps work, and work the way you think they should...you dont have to test anything, its been done :)

And more...feature set located here:
http://www.hrtuning.com/pages/category/neptune/

Chris Harris 11-14-2006 02:36 PM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 

Originally Posted by bigdaddyvtec
Any updates Chris????

Blue tooth is going to be a $99 upgrade

SpankedYA! 11-14-2006 08:05 PM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 
Blue teeth usually indicate a problem. Better head to the dentist!!! :P

Sinner 11-14-2006 09:21 PM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 
so it has a wideband controller on it? seems like that would make a nice tuning system. Wideband output based on rpm/pressure.

Nick

bigdaddyvtec 11-14-2006 09:28 PM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 

Originally Posted by xenocron
Blue Tooth is functional, just waiting on pricing before I go crazy promoting it...

i got dollas!!!

Chris Harris 11-14-2006 11:29 PM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 

Originally Posted by Sinner
so it has a wideband controller on it? seems like that would make a nice tuning system. Wideband output based on rpm/pressure.

Nick

??? Are you drinking Nick?

Where does it say it has a wideband controller on it?

I'm cornfused. :'(

Sinner 11-14-2006 11:33 PM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 
Nah, I'm not drinking. I just wish that feature was on the board. Maybe you can make request for that feature?

EG-prince 11-15-2006 12:37 AM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 
Xenocron will people be able to come to you and get tuned on neptune? and if they did, would they have to buy the whole thing first, or is it similar to crome in that as long as its chipped someone else could tune it for you?

Chris Harris 11-15-2006 08:04 AM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 

Originally Posted by EGgyLShatch
Xenocron will people be able to come to you and get tuned on neptune? and if they did, would they have to buy the whole thing first, or is it similar to crome in that as long as its chipped someone else could tune it for you?

As long as the ECU is chipped Normally, the RTP Board will fit into the ECU just fine. And yes I can tune it (RTP board).

Tom-Guy 11-15-2006 10:20 AM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 
Update this thread when the software is available? I'm curious as to the nature of the input/output hijacks, I can possibly pervert them to do interesting things.

rsmith2786 11-15-2006 01:36 PM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 
If this had a wideband controller i would be all over it. Right now ive got Chrome Pro with a PLX 300 and the moates datalogger. What sort of advantages would there be with Neptune. Are there features that work with Neptune that are not available with Chrome. I think if you did a side by side comparision it would be alot easier for people who arent experts to see why there is an advantage to using Neptune.

Chris Harris 11-15-2006 06:37 PM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 

Originally Posted by rsmith2786
If this had a wideband controller i would be all over it. Right now ive got Chrome Pro with a PLX 300 and the moates datalogger. What sort of advantages would there be with Neptune. Are there features that work with Neptune that are not available with Chrome. I think if you did a side by side comparision it would be alot easier for people who arent experts to see why there is an advantage to using Neptune.

It is hard to do a complete physical side by side comparison...mostly its the same, with a TON of other optional things you can do, and EVERYTHING works, where it doesnt in Crome (or Hondata).

You could tune the same car on both platforms, and probably come out with similar results on a stock-like setup. You are just able to do more with Neptune...once the software comes out public you will see what I mean.

JD, check out the two screen shots...

Inquisition 11-15-2006 06:49 PM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 
I'd suggest adding an option where timing can be adjusted based on a voltage input. Then anyone with a strong electronics backround can set up a nice traction control system. I plan on working this idea this year for our FSAE car.

Tom-Guy 11-15-2006 09:18 PM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 
Adjusting timing is going to end up so retarded you start nuking exhaust valves, that's not the way I'd do it, and that's not the way anybody does it.

Either total injector cut, or control boost. I'd like more nuts and bolts details on the boost controller deal, and I'm wondering if inputs can be configured to accept unamped freq inputs or if I have to freq-voltage convert things first? Idea is to cut boost when (rear) ABS wheelspeed input gets outstripped by VSS. I already have a method of doing this via piggybacks but it's a bit of ------- around with the hardware in the first place.

Inquisition 11-15-2006 10:16 PM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Adjusting timing is going to end up so retarded you start nuking exhaust valves, that's not the way I'd do it, and that's not the way anybody does it.

Either total injector cut, or control boost. I'd like more nuts and bolts details on the boost controller deal, and I'm wondering if inputs can be configured to accept unamped freq inputs or if I have to freq-voltage convert things first? Idea is to cut boost when (rear) ABS wheelspeed input gets outstripped by VSS. I already have a method of doing this via piggybacks but it's a bit of ------- around with the hardware in the first place.

The timing adjustment isn't a total fix but a partial fix. Boost control isn't an option for us as we are naturally assperated. 5* one way or the other for a couple of seconds shouldn't result in EGT changes in a significant manner. I should note significance in my world is something that could cause failure. If the car goes even slightly faster and the engine doesn't nuke, it's a success in my eyes.

Tom-Guy 11-15-2006 11:32 PM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 
What sort of racing? ~225whp, normal decent NA streetcar power, in 2000 lbs doesn't need traction control unless you are cone chasing.

JonDouglas 11-15-2006 11:42 PM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
What sort of racing? ~225whp, normal decent NA streetcar power, in 2000 lbs doesn't need traction control unless you are cone chasing.

Isn't Formula SAE racing cone chasing? ???

JDMFantasy2K 11-15-2006 11:52 PM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 
chris can you explain the feature that allows you to switch multiple maps? That sounds like it'd be awesome to have if you want to run different fuels. Would you just wire it up to a switch? Looks like it has a lot of other neat features, like clearing codes with the brake pedal :1 someone really thought this one out!

Tom-Guy 11-16-2006 03:23 PM

Re: Neptune RTP Finally released!
 

Originally Posted by snm95ls
Isn't Formula SAE racing cone chasing? ???

Those guys use bike engines, I doubt they use OBD1 Honduh car ECUs to run them.


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