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TurboG 07-27-2008 01:49 AM

Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 
Ok I was trying to figure out if my injector driver was working or not. This happened at light load. Basically idling. going 60km/h oil/fuel pressure ok.

car sounded like it was flooded, started dying and quit running. I shut the key off, thinking it was a dead battery causing the msd to ---- all over itself. tried to start the car again but when it started it ran shitty and trevor said it sounded like to was flooded so I tried to start it again but the starter just was clicking against the flywheel.

Check battery and it was 12volts but drained to 7volts when trying to start the car. turned the motor over by hand(thinking it was a deadspot in the flywheel and it sounded like the piston was smashing the valve)


pics,

exhaust valve that looks like it is smashed( number 4 piston)

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...n/DSC02128.jpg
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...n/DSC02129.jpg
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...n/DSC02130.jpg

valve right beside it.( number 3 piston)
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...n/DSC02132.jpg
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...n/DSC02133.jpg
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...alveguides.jpg

Tom-Guy 07-27-2008 01:51 AM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 
Yup, that's fucked. Yank the head and see.

What brand valvetrain?

seerex 07-27-2008 02:12 AM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Yup, that's fucked. Yank the head and see.

What brand valvetrain?

+1 hope pistons are still good. BTW JD Widebody got banned along with BDV.

Tom-Guy 07-27-2008 02:19 AM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 
Welcome to 7 PM EST.

onlyflash944 07-27-2008 02:22 AM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 
whammy.

looks like today was a bad day for honduhs, i broke an axle at the strip today

beaker 07-27-2008 02:25 AM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 
so...flame me if you want....but im a noob when dealing with heads....whats fucked up in the pics...not sure what im supposed to be looking for...and whats it supposed to look like.....






as always....here to learn

con 07-27-2008 02:27 AM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 
the valve is down and the cam is up. I wrote that like its part of "go dog go" for you :P

beaker 07-27-2008 02:36 AM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 
ah....gotcha...like i said...i really dont know much about troubleshooting problems with the head....

onlyflash944 07-27-2008 02:37 AM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 
the space under the left lobe on the #4 cyl. basically means something ain't right, because that should ride the camshaft all the way around

beaker 07-27-2008 02:38 AM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 
yea...i see it now. what would cause that...shoddy parts, bad install?

Tom-Guy 07-27-2008 02:40 AM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 
Lucky at love, unlucky at life?

con 07-27-2008 02:41 AM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 

Originally Posted by dtrain
yea...i see it now. what would cause that...shoddy parts, bad install?

time will tell, ---- needs to come apart. Sucks anyway for UI. I really wanted this thing to make some crazy ass power :'(

onlyflash944 07-27-2008 02:43 AM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 
error in installation, starvation of oil, a foreign object in the cumbustion chamber, or just an inperfection in the metal used.

basically got unlucky, probably kicked someone's dog and stole their news paper the day before

beaker 07-27-2008 02:47 AM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 

Originally Posted by onlyflash944
error in installation, starvation of oil, a foreign object in the cumbustion chamber, or just an inperfection in the metal used.

basically got unlucky, probably kicked someone's dog and stole their news paper the day before


didnt meet his monthly quota of orange chicken

dummee 07-27-2008 02:47 AM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 
Wow that really sucks. Seems like you've been running into wall after wall with that car.

Bone1 07-27-2008 04:17 AM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 
someone kissed their sister and didn't make it back in the house.


piston to valve: Hello!

TurboG 07-27-2008 05:03 AM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...0726201136.jpg


here is the vid.


guess we are pulling the head tomorrow. It is a supertech valvetrain super baller Laskey racing ----. Spare no money because I didnt want problems like this ------- ----. guess its all garbage, ---- this car. If it is actually just a broken spring then it can be replaced without pulling the head right? because if I pull the head then I its iffy if I can re-use this cometic headgasket


we also burnt a worm for justice in this world. a sacrifice must be made vid up soon :6


http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...0726202815.jpg



MISTA BONE. Answer your ------- PMS

Tom-Guy 07-27-2008 06:02 AM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 
Supertech<stock<Ferrea 6000


Guy-Fast 07-27-2008 06:18 AM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 
2 motors I have seen got trashed from supertech stuff problems cant be that uncommon. Honda for the win

Tom-Guy 07-27-2008 08:02 AM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 
Yah, their stuff is super fragile.

t_cel_t 07-27-2008 08:25 AM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 
checked on the first vid, why are the number 3 valves clicking when you move the rocker up/down. do you not set the last or had you already loosened them? .008'' doesnt make that much of on audible click.

Minor Threat 07-27-2008 11:41 AM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 
I reuse Cometics. As long as everything is still flat you'll be fine.

CspecRun 07-27-2008 12:42 PM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 

Originally Posted by Urban Indian
we also burnt a worm for justice in this world.

You should've just burnt a joint...you would've felt alot better.

Chris Harris 07-27-2008 01:05 PM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Supertech<stock<Ferrea 6000


Are we talking valves or valvetrain here?

Tom-Guy 07-27-2008 01:38 PM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 
The valves themselves. I've never seen a Supertech spring break, or retainer split, and the stuff is used a lot. I'm not as inclined to trust them as I am Ferrea, given the situation, you know.


TurboG 07-27-2008 03:00 PM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 

Originally Posted by t_cel_t
checked on the first vid, why are the number 3 valves clicking when you move the rocker up/down. do you not set the last or had you already loosened them? .008'' doesnt make that much of on audible click.

I am unsure. But the valves were set twice. Once when the cams were installed as to Skunk2 Specs.

Tappet Clearance:
Intake: 0.007” (cold)
Exhaust: 0.008” (cold)

Once more when the car had been running for around an hour. I had planned on setting them again when the rings had been seated properly and the oil changed( after figuring out the random fuel cut which I had solved)

What the ----, buy the best parts and the ---- is still ------- garbage. Can you imagine if we were not idling and I was somewhere around 9500rpm/25lbs boost when this ---- let go? I had another problem with this motor when it came from Laskey. The rings on piston #4 were all lined up together and not staggered like ever other motor in the history of fossil fuels. I thought this ---- was invincible thats why I bought it, to avoid ---- like this. I am not a ------- Honda guru genius so I figured let someone else who does this everyday and apparently has a SFWD racecar. The thing is I don't know all the Honda tricks/shortcuts yet because this is my first build that requires skill, so learning is a slow process. I need some adult supervision basically. Almost to the point of parking the car, throwing a tarp over it and building a stock D till I can do this ---- by myself.

http://thecreativeforum.com/photopos...3noose-med.jpg



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* Good news, the fuel cut issue is solved on stock injectors & the injector driver is wired correctly so when I re-install the head I can throw the big injectors in, and I also have a Hondata intake mani gasket so I guess everything is technically re-usable* The shitty part is that it takes 2 people 15 minutes to pull that ------- turbo out. Smashed pics to follow

ichbinsobose 07-27-2008 03:59 PM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 
post pictures of your sister or quit the forum
hmt has done a lot for you, time to give back

Smith-02 07-27-2008 07:16 PM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 

Originally Posted by ichbinsobose
post pictures of your sister or quit the forum
hmt has done a lot for you, time to give back


TurboG 07-27-2008 09:37 PM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 
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Looks like one set of valves fucked up. collateral damage to the other pistons. came out the intake, into the intake manifold into the other pistons.


How the ---- did this happen so quick. as soon as ---- started to hit the fan I shut the car off. and we pushed it back. all this at max 2000rpm





88dx 07-27-2008 09:39 PM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 
:X

beaker 07-27-2008 09:58 PM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 
ohhhh ----.....i guess it was shoddy parts

ichbinsobose 07-27-2008 10:01 PM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 
your sister is busted

oh wait, thats a picture of your engine... what gives?

TurboG 07-27-2008 10:28 PM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 

Originally Posted by dtrain
ohhhh ----.....i guess it was shoddy parts

I thought it was the best of the best ----.



and here you go ------


http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...n/DSC00207.jpg

beaker 07-27-2008 10:39 PM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 
damn....your sister has nice tits....remove your hands please

j3w 07-27-2008 11:00 PM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 
valves :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X

6th cousin >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D

i'd like to have 45 seconds alone with her.

sexyblackcrx 07-27-2008 11:01 PM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 

Originally Posted by J.H.Christ


i'd like to have 45 seconds alone with her.

I only need fifteen. :6

beaker 07-27-2008 11:09 PM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 
yep....leaves 5 to cuddle

Originally Posted by sexyblackcrx
I only need fifteen. :6


con 07-27-2008 11:53 PM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 

Originally Posted by 88dx
:X

+4000 :'(

dummee 07-28-2008 12:03 AM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 
That sucks ass man. Widebody told me to tell you serves you right

biscuit 07-28-2008 12:09 AM

Re: Need Rope, Valve drop? Spring collapse? *Vids & pics*
 
Ouch... :'(


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