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buk9tp 08-03-2007 03:18 AM

my dads a terrorist
 
:1

timbolandd 08-03-2007 04:41 AM

Re: bout fucking time
 
i bet thats ------- weird having your dad labeled as a terrorist which one is he

buk9tp 08-03-2007 05:27 AM

Re: bout fucking time
 
jayyousi

45psi 08-03-2007 05:20 PM

Re: bout fucking time
 
bukakke, stop being such a N-word

Dr.Boost 08-03-2007 05:24 PM

Re: bout fucking time
 

Originally Posted by buk9tp
jayyousi

If that's your dads name, I would have convicted his ass. >:D
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buk9tp 08-03-2007 05:29 PM

Re: bout fucking time
 

Originally Posted by Dr.Boost
If that's your dads name, I would have convicted his ass. >:D

last name :P

thats why everyone at work calls me jay...

buk9tp 08-05-2007 06:14 PM

Re: bout fucking time
 
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...tory?track=rss

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...tory?track=rss
From the Los Angeles Times
Padilla trial defense cites relief work
Jurors see video of Muslim aid efforts by the defendants' organization. Closing arguments are near.
By Carol J. Williams
Times Staff Writer

August 3, 2007

MIAMI — Jurors who have heard weeks of testimony suggesting Jose Padilla and two co-defendants conspired to commit terrorism saw a video Thursday showing volunteers sorting through a warehouse full of food, clothing, medicine and toys gathered by the defendants' organization to aid Muslims overseas.

Produced more than a decade ago for a television show in Paterson, N.J., the video was shown to support the defendants' assertion that they were engaged in humanitarian relief efforts from 1993 to 2001 — when prosecutors say they were preparing to wage holy war.

Erol Bulur, a Turkish-born Muslim who owns the warehouse, may have been the final witness to take the stand in the case. Along with Padilla, the defendants are Adham Amin Hassoun and Kifah Wael Jayyousi.

Bulur told of tons of donations for Chechen refugees collected by Jayyousi's San Diego-based group, American Worldwide Relief, and delivered in four shipping containers to a partner agency in Azerbaijan.

Lawyers for Hassoun — a Lebanese-born Palestinian who prosecutors say recruited Padilla to go abroad to aid besieged Muslims — rested their case Wednesday. The defense of Jayyousi, a naturalized U.S. citizen from Jordan, is expected to wrap up Tuesday, said his attorney, William Swor.

Padilla's attorneys said they didn't plan to call any witnesses and would present their closing arguments the week of Aug. 13. U.S. District Judge Marcia Cooke has indicated she doesn't plan to sequester the jury during deliberations.

The defendants could get life in prison if convicted on all charges.

Padilla — who has sat quietly at the crowded defense table the last few weeks — was accused at the time of his May 2002 arrest of plotting to detonate a radioactive "dirty bomb" in the United States. That allegation has been dropped, and there has been no mention during his trial of the 3 1/2 years he spent in isolation at a Navy brig.

Instead, Padilla was added to the case against Hassoun and Jayyousi.

The three are charged with conspiracy to commit terrorism and offering material support to terrorists.

Most of the prosecution's evidence has come from wiretapped phone calls between Hassoun and other figures in a network of activists who raised money, collected relief goods and recruited people to aid Muslims in Bosnia, Kosovo, Chechnya and Somalia.

Padilla's voice was heard on seven of the more than 300,000 phone calls intercepted by U.S. intelligence officials over nine years. The transcripts of the calls are the backbone of the prosecution's case.

Also taking the stand Thursday were two onetime colleagues of Jayyousi, who has a doctorate in engineering. They characterized him as mild-mannered.

Gerry White, chief of facilities at UC San Diego, recalled that Jayyousi and an Israeli architect had celebrated the 1993 Arab-Israeli peace accord with a champagne toast.

"May peace reign forever," White quoted Jayyousi as saying.

White said San Diego police investigators had contacted him at his office after a U.S. News & World Report article in June 2002 mentioned Jayyousi and his American Worldwide Relief organization as a part of a terrorism network.

"I just blew it off," White told the court. "I said that as far as I'm concerned, he posed no threat."

Mumtaz Usmen, a civil engineering professor at Wayne State University who supervised Jayyousi's doctoral dissertation, described the defendant as a man whose Muslim observances differed from his own, but with whom he was always comfortable and friendly.

Earlier this week, a retired U.S. Navy officer who served with Jayyousi in the 1980s told the court that the defendant had cleared rigorous security checks for a job retrofitting ships.

The witness, John Lasswell, described Jayyousi as "a ball of fire — a manager's dream."

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buk9tp 08-06-2007 03:56 AM

Re: bout fucking time
 
http://youtube.com/watch?v=W6jD_jySiwg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6LeVH-45nso
http://youtube.com/watch?v=D9TnLJ6Ob3k

HondaTuner 08-06-2007 04:10 AM

Re: bout fucking time
 

Originally Posted by buk9tp
last name :P

thats why everyone at work calls me jay...

Even IRL I'd call you buck. :P

buk9tp 08-07-2007 04:42 PM

Re: bout fucking time
 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070807/...rror_charges_2

QikEnuF 08-07-2007 04:47 PM

Re: bout fucking time
 
Tell us the truth buk, is your dad 100% not a terrorist or terrorist sympathizeR?

buk9tp 08-07-2007 05:07 PM

Re: bout fucking time
 

Originally Posted by QikEnuF
Tell us the truth buk, is your dad 100% not a terrorist or terrorist sympathizeR?

my dad is neither a terrorist nor a terrorist sympathizer....

buk9tp 08-13-2007 07:28 PM

Re: bout fucking time
 
i dont think anyone gives a ---- :-\

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070813/...rror_charges_5


Intent is key for Padilla jurors

By CURT ANDERSON, Associated Press Writer 4 minutes ago

To decide whether Jose Padilla and two other men are guilty of supporting terrorism, jurors are going to have to get inside their heads. Was Padilla the "star recruit" of a terror support cell, or just a recent convert to Islam learning Arabic and the Quran? Did his co-defendants aim to support Islamic extremists in global conflict zones, or were they trying to help innocent Muslims suffering in those same areas?

The question of intent is critical for jurors who are expected to begin deliberating this week whether Padilla, Adham Amin Hassoun and Kifah Wael Jayyousi conspired to murder, maim and kidnap people overseas and provide material support to extremists in places like Afghanistan, Chechnya, Somalia, Bosnia and Lebanon.

"They decided that this end justified any means, including murder," federal prosecutor Brian Frazier said in closing arguments Monday. "Jose Padilla was a mujahedeen recruit and an al-Qaida terrorist trainee."

But Hassoun attorney Kenneth Swartz said in the first of three defense closing statements that "this case is all about speculation. It is not about proof of a crime. There is no intent to murder. The only intent is to provide relief."

Attorneys for Padilla and Jayyousi were scheduled to give closing arguments Tuesday, followed by rebuttal from prosecutors. Jurors are likely to begin deliberations Wednesday.

Even if the assistance the defendants provided wound up in the hands of rebels or terrorists, U.S. District Judge Marcia Cooke instructed jurors that it is no crime if the trio intended that it be used for relief work such as helping refugees or buying medicine.

If convicted of the murder conspiracy charge, Padilla — who was once accused by the Bush administration of planning to detonate a radioactive bomb in the U.S. — and his co-defendants could be sentenced to life in prison. The two material support counts carry potential sentences of up to 15 years.

Padilla, a U.S. citizen, was held for 3 1/2 years as an enemy combatant after his 2002 arrest in a purported al-Qaida "dirty bomb" plot, but his trial does not include those allegations.

Padilla is the centerpiece of the case, largely because prosecutors say he links the other two to al-Qaida and Osama bin Laden.

"Padilla was the star recruit of a terrorist support cell," Frazier said.

Prosecutors want jurors to convict Padilla largely on the basis of a five-page "mujahedeen data form" he supposedly filled out in 2000 to attend an al-Qaida terrorist training camp in Afghanistan.

The CIA found that form in Afghanistan in late 2001. It contains seven of Padilla's fingerprints, one of his alleged Muslim aliases, his birthday, notes the applicant's ability to speak English, Spanish and Arabic and has other identifying details.

Padilla's attorneys say he traveled overseas to study Arabic and go on a hajj, the annual pilgrimage to Mecca, not to train to be a terrorist. They called no witnesses on his behalf and introduced no evidence, adopting the risky strategy of suggesting to the jurors that prosecutors failed to prove their case.

The data form was not analyzed for fingerprints until last year, and the defense has theorized that Padilla handled it while he was held as an enemy combatant.

There is little other hard evidence involving Padilla. Thousands of hours of FBI wiretap intercepts from 1993 to 2001 include numerous conversations of Hassoun and Jayyousi, but Padilla's voice is heard on only seven.

There is also little direct evidence connecting Hassoun and Jayyousi, both 45, to any specific acts of violence or specific killings. The victims, according to prosecutors, would include the Russian army in Chechnya, Serbian forces in Kosovo and other military groups around the world.

Evidence does include numerous checks written by Hassoun and Jayyousi to various organizations that prosecutors say were involved in terrorism, such as the Global Relief Foundation and American Worldwide Relief.

Swartz said Hassoun gave thousands of dollars to relief organizations and staged fundraisers at South Florida mosques because of repeated atrocities directed against Muslims.

"Their passion was relief," Swartz said of Hassoun and others. "There is no talk of terrorism or premeditated murder."

MikeJ-2009 08-13-2007 07:32 PM

Re: bout fucking time
 
I say off him anyway to show how hardcore we are.

buk9tp 08-13-2007 07:34 PM

Re: bout fucking time
 

Originally Posted by Stealthmode
I say off him anyway to show how hardcore we are.

deal 8)

buk9tp 08-13-2007 11:36 PM

Re: bout fucking time
 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20070813/ts_csm/apadillaone


Jose Padilla had no history of mental illness when President Bush ordered him detained in 2002 as a suspected Al Qaeda operative. But he does now.
no signs of mental illness? the guy converted to islam! he's gotta be a retard!!!

BOOOSH!!!! ;D

:1

DrSeuss 08-14-2007 02:06 PM

Re: bout fucking time
 
If they're innocent. Which to be fair, it sounds like they are. The American government are retarded assholes.

I hope you get your dad back Buk.

buk9tp 08-14-2007 07:31 PM

Re: bout fucking time
 

Originally Posted by DrSeuss
If they're innocent. Which to be fair, it sounds like they are. The American government are retarded assholes.

I hope you get your dad back Buk.

he's been out on bail.. as if that doesnt say enough about the trial.. lol

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070814/...a_padilla_dc_4


Padilla case built on fear, lawyers say

By Jane Sutton 7 minutes ago

The terrorism support case against U.S. citizen Jose Padilla and two other men was built on fear, prejudice against Muslims and government overreaching after the September 11 attacks, defense lawyers said in closing arguments on Tuesday.

"We don't achieve security by bringing these types of charges on this type of evidence," Padilla's lawyer, Michael Caruso, told jurors who are scheduled to begin deliberating on Wednesday.

Padilla was held without charge in a military prison for 3 1/2 years by order of President George W. Bush before being added to the case against co-defendants Adham Hassoun and Kifah Jayyousi.

The Bush administration accused him after his 2002 arrest of plotting to set off a radioactive bomb. Bush ordered him imprisoned by the military as an "enemy combatant." Amid court challenges to the president's authority to do that, Padilla was indicted in a civilian court in November 2005 on charges that do not mention any bomb plot.

Caruso described Padilla as linked only casually to Hassoun and said he had never met Jayyousi until he reached the Miami courtroom.

All three face life in prison if convicted of providing material support for Islamist terrorist groups and conspiring to murder, kidnap and maim people in Afghanistan, Chechnya, Bosnia and other countries from 1993 to 2001.

The government charged that Hassoun, a Lebanese-born Palestinian, and Jayyousi, a naturalized U.S. citizen from Jordan, formed a support cell that recruited and financed fighters bent on establishing Islamist governments that would follow strict Sharia law.

Prosecutors said Hassoun recruited Padilla at a Florida mosque and sent him to an al Qaeda camp in Afghanistan to train as a killer. Assistant U.S. Attorney Brian Frazier called Padilla, 36, their "star recruit."

'SNAKE OIL'

Caruso described him as a quiet, lonely, mentally "slow" man who worked at a chicken restaurant and volunteered to cook and clean at the Florida mosque, where he was remembered mainly for reading a Spanish-language Koran.

Mosque members took up a collection to send him to Egypt to study Arabic and Islam, a witness testified.

There was no direct evidence Padilla went to Afghanistan. The key evidence against him was what prosecutors called an al Qaeda application form found in Afghanistan and bearing his fingerprints, alias and birthdate.

Caruso suggested the form was faked and given to Padilla to handle after his arrest. It had two types of ink, several types of handwriting and Padilla's fingerprints were only on the first and last page, consistent with handling it but not filling it out, he said.

Jayyousi's lawyer, William Swor, called the government's case "snake oil," built on snippets of wiretapped conversations, questionably translated from Arabic and taken out of context by government witnesses who never examined 99.8 percent of the recordings.

During the three-month trial, the government introduced into evidence about 125 transcripts from more than 300,000 conversations over nearly a decade. Padilla's voice was on seven phone calls, discussing his struggle to learn Arabic, adjust to Egyptian culture and support his new Egyptian wife, his attorney said.

"It's clear his intention is to study, not to murder," Caruso said.

Prosecutors said the defendants were al Qaeda affiliates and Frazier mentioned the group 100 times during his closing argument. Defense lawyers denied any link to the group and accused the government of playing to jurors' fears in a post-9/11 world.

Swor called the case "U.S. versus Islam" and said it relied on fear of Muslims to cover a lack of evidence.

Defense lawyers said Jayyousi, a U.S. Navy veteran, and Hassoun worked with legitimate charities that provided medicine, food and clothing to Muslims being slaughtered and displaced in Bosnia, Chechnya and elsewhere in the 1990s.

HondaTuner 08-14-2007 07:57 PM

Re: bout fucking time
 
I was telling buk a few minutes ago I did a search on his dads name... and it seems like a ------ modern day witch hunt to me. He helps out a few middle easterners by doing fundraisers and automatically its assumed that he's baking cookies for al-queda. Give me a ------ break.

Toysrme 08-14-2007 08:34 PM

Re: bout fucking time
 
i wish someone would shove the patriot act back up bush's raw ---- cavity myself.
makes dealing with money institutions just that much more inconvienant for white people.

signorelli21 08-15-2007 01:35 AM

Re: bout fucking time
 
the ones that know don't care
the ones that care don't know

they will get convicted and spend the rest of of their lives in prison, the next day the bush administration will get on tv and cite yet anouther victory in the war on terror, even though the only people we are fighting is ourselves.

buk9tp 08-15-2007 09:17 PM

Re: bout fucking time
 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070816/...ror_charges_10


Deliberations start in Padilla trial

By CURT ANDERSON, Associated Press Writer 5 minutes ago

Jurors began deliberations Wednesday after three months of testimony in the trial of Jose Padilla and two co-defendants on charges of operating a support cell for Islamic terrorists, including al-Qaida.

The ethnically diverse panel of seven men and five women has heard witness accounts and dozens of phone conversations intercepted by the FBI, most of them in Arabic, during an investigation spanning 1993 to 2001.

Padilla, a U.S. citizen, was held for 3 1/2 years as an enemy combatant following his May 2002 arrest as authorities initially claimed he was part of an al-Qaida plot to set off a radioactive "dirty bomb" in a U.S. city. He was added in late 2005 to an existing Miami terrorism support indictment amid a legal battle over President Bush's authority to continue detaining him without charge.

The "dirty bomb" allegations disappeared and are not included in the trial, in part because Padilla was never provided a lawyer or read his Miranda rights when he was interrogated about the alleged plot while in military custody.

Padilla, 36, and co-defendants Adham Amin Hassoun and Kifah Wael Jayyousi, both 45, face life in prison if convicted on charges of conspiring to murder, kidnap and maim people overseas and up to 15 years on each of two terrorism material support counts.

Prosecutors say the three were part of a North American network to supply al-Qaida and other extremist groups in Afghanistan, Chechnya, Bosnia, Somalia and elsewhere with mujahedeen fighters, money and military equipment.

They contend the defendants had phone conversations in code, using words and phrases such as "tourism" and "smelling fresh air" to mean "jihad." Defense attorneys disputed those interpretations.

Prosecutor Brian Frazier said Padilla was the group's star recruit who filled out a form in 2000 to attend an al-Qaida training camp in Afghanistan.

"There was only one purpose to go to these camps, and that was to learn to kill," Frazier said Tuesday in closing rebuttal arguments.

Defense lawyers for Hassoun and Jayyousi say they were focused solely on providing humanitarian aid to persecuted Muslims, not violence. And Padilla's attorneys say he traveled overseas not to join al-Qaida but to study Islam and Arabic in Egypt.

Jurors recessed at 5 p.m. and were to resume deliberations on Thursday morning.

MikeJ-2009 08-15-2007 09:49 PM

Re: bout fucking time
 
I'm listening to Astro Creep by White Zombie in hopes of a dead sandman. Your dad ain't no ninja, bitch.

losesomethinbra 08-15-2007 10:02 PM

Re: bout fucking time
 
Well try to ignore the media the jury isnt allowed to track that stuff.. But the thing is its one of those things you really never want to go to trial over especially today... The outcome is lying on those 12 people and thats that.. SHIIIIT

buk9tp 08-16-2007 01:32 PM

Re: verdict reached! going to be read in about 30 minutes!!!!
 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070816/...a_verdict_dc_2


Verdict reached in Padilla terrorism support trial

44 minutes ago

Jurors have reached a verdict in the terrorism support trial of U.S. citizen Jose Padilla and two other men, a court official said on Thursday.

The verdict was to be read at a hearing scheduled for 2 p.m. EDT (1800 GMT), an aide to U.S. District Judge Marcia Cooke said.

Padilla and co-defendants Adham Hassoun and Kifah Jayyousi face life in prison if convicted of providing material support for Islamist terrorist groups and conspiring to murder, kidnap and maim people in Afghanistan, Chechnya, Bosnia and other countries from 1993 to 2001.

The government charges that Hassoun, a Lebanese-born Palestinian, and Jayyousi, a naturalized U.S. citizen from Jordan, formed a support cell that recruited and financed fighters bent on establishing Islamist governments that would follow strict Sharia law.

Prosecutors said Hassoun recruited Padilla at a Florida mosque and sent him to an al Qaeda camp in Afghanistan to train as a killer.

The Bush administration accused him after his 2002 arrest of plotting to set off a radioactive bomb. Bush ordered him imprisoned by the military as an "enemy combatant." Amid court challenges to the president's authority to do that, Padilla was indicted in a civilian court in November 2005 on charges that do not mention any bomb plot.

J-MAN 08-16-2007 01:56 PM

Re: verdict reached! going to be read in about 30 minutes!!!!
 
in yet?

buk9tp 08-16-2007 02:00 PM

Re: verdict reached! going to be read in about 30 minutes!!!!
 
nope

---- worst day of my life time going by ---- slow

QikEnuF 08-16-2007 02:38 PM

Re: verdict reached! going to be read in about 30 minutes!!!!
 
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/08/16/pad...ict/index.html

Damn, that's the American justice system for you... Sucks man

buk9tp 08-16-2007 02:42 PM

Re: verdict reached! going to be read in about 30 minutes!!!!
 

Originally Posted by QikEnuF
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/08/16/pad...ict/index.html

Damn, that's the American justice system for you... Sucks man

shitty

if i had seen this article down here i wouldnt have been so optimistic.. meh

http://news.netscape.com/story/2007/...white-and-blue

sheep will always be sheep :)

N1ghtM0nkey 08-16-2007 02:49 PM

Re: verdict reached! going to be read in about 30 minutes!!!!
 
So how are Padilla and your dad connected? I don't feel like reading through all that ---- so just sum it up.

Padilla sounds like a ---- bag but from what they said about your dad I couldn't see what he did wrong...provided he was telling the truth.

buk9tp 08-16-2007 03:06 PM

Re: verdict reached! going to be read in about 30 minutes!!!!
 

Originally Posted by 455m0nkey
So how are Padilla and your dad connected?

they ------- arent and my dad never even heard of him or even met em till the trial :1

J-MAN 08-16-2007 03:12 PM

Re: my dads a terrorist
 
sorry to hear

ichbinsobose 08-16-2007 03:13 PM

Re: my dads a terrorist
 
hahaha

life in prison ftw

hope they get you next

JUSTICE HAS BEEN SERVED
:y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y

buk9tp 08-16-2007 03:19 PM

Re: my dads a terrorist
 

Originally Posted by ichbinsobose
hahaha

life in prison ftw

hope they get you next

JUSTICE HAS BEEN SERVED
:y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y

your a dumbass ::)

i bet this verdict even suprised stealthmode.. the worlds most hard core anti arab person in the world ::)

meh

appeals and seprete trial ftw

but u just showed how low youd go :6

signorelli21 08-16-2007 03:32 PM

Re: my dads a terrorist
 
lol, i told you they would find him guilty, big suprise, they probably had a verdict before the trial even started.

just goes to show all you liberal tree hugging green peace fags, if you donate to or take part in humanitarian aid to third world countries, your a terrorist.

you hear about that guy that wrote a check to the islamic releif aid or some ---- and was also imprisoned and tortured as a enemy combatant? he sued and got a couple mil. all he did was write a check to a non for profit organization that somehow had ties to someone in alqueda and the cia snached his ass, lol.

ichbinsobose 08-16-2007 03:32 PM

Re: my dads a terrorist
 
i skeet in the face of terrorist sympathizers
:6

buk9tp 08-16-2007 03:37 PM

Re: my dads a terrorist
 
crazy stuff dude

this caught everyone off guard
i wish i had tv to watch it but yea theres millions of ---- they caan appeal on and seprete trials ftw

klyph 08-16-2007 03:46 PM

Re: my dads a terrorist
 
So it's basically a case of:
We think this guy applied to be a terrorist and Buk's dad knows a guy who talked to him a few times so, Life imprisonment for everyone.

America, ---- ya.

buk9tp 08-16-2007 03:50 PM

Re: my dads a terrorist
 

Originally Posted by klyph
So it's basically a case of:
We think this guy applied to be a terrorist and Buk's dad knows a guy who talked to him a few times so, Life imprisonment for everyone.

America, ---- ya.

+

gave aide relief and built a hospital
ran a news letter critical of us foreign policy

=

formula for life in prison

HondaTuner 08-16-2007 03:54 PM

Re: my dads a terrorist
 
All the prosecutor had to say is "What if we let them go, will another 9-11 happen?" and I bet that'd be enough. Fear was probably the main indicator in this case.


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