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Inquisition 10-28-2007 01:36 PM

My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 
Here is the deal. I bought this PC a little over a year ago. Last Friday, when I went back up to my room and my PC was frozen. Control + Alt + Del didn't work. I shut down the PC using the power button. Waited 10 seconds and then went to turn it back on. PC wouldn't boot up and the monitor shows a "No Signal" error.

Now I've left the PC to boot up for long periods of time with the PC speakers on full blast hoping that the PC is actually booting to Windows and just nothing is being displayed. I haven't heard anything so I don't think I'm booting to Windows.

I've opened the case and checked to make sure all the wires were tight. I looked over all of the essential boards for signs of burning up and haven't seen anything. I check my processor temp periodically and it's never been a high temp. I've also tested my monitor on another PC and it works fine.

I figured it was probably the power supply, RAM, video card, or motherboard. I went out today and bought a new power supply, RAM, and video card to do some testing with and return if they didn't solve the problem. I really figured it was power supply or motherboard though. So I swapped out the power supply and the same symptoms occurred. I removed everything from the mobo that wasn't essential. I removed the RAM and tried booting up without it and did not hear any error beeps. Right now I'm not sure I want to open the RAM and video card in case Circuit City gives me ---- for returning it and I'm out $200+. The power supply I was willing to risk.

Any suggestion, thoughts, jokes, nude pictures of your sister/girlfriend/ex-girlfriend/mom/wife/aunt/or anyone else are all welcome.

ToeJam 10-28-2007 01:41 PM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 
I had something kinda like that. I unpluggged EVERYTHING and then plugged everything back in. For some reason it worked. Sometimes it is just simple ----. I hope that is the case for you.

Inquisition 10-28-2007 01:43 PM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 

Originally Posted by ToeJam
I had something kinda like that. I unpluggged EVERYTHING and then plugged everything back in. For some reason it worked. Sometimes it is just simple ----. I hope that is the case for you.

I've done most of it. I guess I should try everything. Maybe it will work. It's worth a shot. A new mobo and processor is about $200 so it's worth a shot.

buk9tp 10-28-2007 01:47 PM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 

Originally Posted by Inquisition
I've done most of it. I guess I should try everything. Maybe it will work. It's worth a shot. A new mobo and processor is about $200 so it's worth a shot.

try the red trip button in the back?
http://www.t-mobilepictures.com/phot...oujyert5mk5q18

if that doesnt fix it.. and you say when you took the ram out you didnt get error beeps then your mobo is fried..

why buy a new mobo and processor for 200 and still have a shitty computer? i got computers for sale ;D

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...hp?topic=86900




Jorsher 10-28-2007 01:57 PM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 
Errr sounds like video card problem to me. If there are problems with it, it won't boot to windows.

It could be a number of things though.

My computer wasn't booting, so I bought a new mobo. That one stopped booting after a few days too. Turned out it was one of the USB card readers ------- with the mobo somehow causing it not to post.

Inquisition 10-28-2007 02:05 PM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 
Buk, my computer broken>>>>>>>>>>>>what you have for sale. But I do agree with the error beeps and RAM. Today is one of the few times I wish compusa was still in business. I could buy a motherboard and processor from them and test to see if its the problem. If I buy online, it becomes a whole big thing returning it.

According to the girl at circuit city, I could return it if it wasn't compatible with my computer or didn't work well. Anyone work at Circuit City and confirm their return policy on open computer hardware?

buk9tp 10-28-2007 02:11 PM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 

Originally Posted by Inquisition
Buk, my computer broken>>>>>>>>>>>>what you have for sale. But I do agree with the error beeps and RAM. Today is one of the few times I wish compusa was still in business. I could buy a motherboard and processor from them and test to see if its the problem. If I buy online, it becomes a whole big thing returning it.

According to the girl at circuit city, I could return it if it wasn't compatible with my computer or didn't work well. Anyone work at Circuit City and confirm their return policy on open computer hardware?

circuit city sucks ass.. take it to a local computer shop and toss em ten bucks to plug ---- up and find out whats wrong.. lol

laptop dell inspiron 1501.. 3.2ghz 2gb ram 75gb hd 256mb video dvd burner cd burner laptop 650...

desktop slim tower desgin dell optiplex 320.. 3ghz is the only spec i can confirm.. forgot the rest.. lol.. needs ram.. 300 bucks

desktop reg tower.. dell dimension 9150 2.8ghz 1gb ram, 250gb hd 400 bucks

dell 19 inch lcd 200 bucks..

apple imac g5 1000 bucks... 2ghz 2gb ram 150gb hd, cdburner dvd burner + as well as minus as well as dual layer dvd burner windows xp.. as well as mac osx 10.5

buk9tp 10-28-2007 02:12 PM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 
compusa changed its return policy cause it was getting anally raped by customers >:D

buk9tp 10-28-2007 02:15 PM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 
http://www.compusa.com/help/terms.asp?credir=1#in-store

If you are not satisfied with a product you purchased from us and you return the product with the original receipt or invoice within 21 days from the original purchase or invoice date, you may exchange the product or receive a refund, except as explained below. Computers, monitors, printers, projectors, camcorders, cameras, and GPS/Navigation systems may be returned within 14 days from the original purchase or invoice date and may be subject to a 15% restocking fee if opened (unless defective). Opened software, games, and videos may only be exchanged for the same title. Opened service parts, motherboards, and processors may not be returned for refund, but may be exchanged, if defective. Labor, installation services, and shipping charges are non-refundable. All items must be in new condition, with the original box, packaging, manuals, accessories, and UPC code. Refunds will be made in the form of original payment. Purchases made by cash or check over $250 will be refunded by check from our corporate office within 10 business days. PERSONAL DATA: please remove personal data (e.g. computer/cell phone data, media, tapes) from returned/exchanged items. CompUSA is not responsible for any damages related to any loss, mishandling, or disclosure of personal data left on returned/exchanged item. Policy varies in HI & PR. See store for more details.

stingray 10-29-2007 09:46 PM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 

Originally Posted by buk9tp
try the red trip button in the back?
http://www.t-mobilepictures.com/phot...oujyert5mk5q18

if that doesnt fix it.. and you say when you took the ram out you didnt get error beeps then your mobo is fried..

why buy a new mobo and processor for 200 and still have a shitty computer? i got computers for sale ;D

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...hp?topic=86900




hah... do you even know what that red 'trip button' is for?

stevenb 10-29-2007 09:49 PM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...ailandaids.png

leed 10-29-2007 10:38 PM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 

Originally Posted by buk9tp

if that doesnt fix it.. and you say when you took the ram out you didnt get error beeps then your mobo is fried..

+1

I cant tell if its a 939 or AM2 board from the pics, but either way, they are both pretty cheap these days on NewEgg.



Jcushing 10-29-2007 10:54 PM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 
dissconnect everything except the vid card mobo and power supply see if you can post... that will at least narrow it down to one of those 3 compinents. i know you already said you tried the PS though.. you can t hen add ram, hard drives, pci cards one at a time to see if you can find the problem.

normally i would say its the video card based on what your tellin me but you never know something unrelated could have gone bad and be conflicting in some way.

Inquisition 10-30-2007 11:13 AM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 
Is there any way to isolate the issue? How can I find out its either the video card or the mobo? Is the only way to replace the video card or mobo?

buk9tp 10-30-2007 11:26 AM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 

Originally Posted by stingray
hah... do you even know what that red 'trip button' is for?

yes you ------- numbnuts... to switch from 110 to 220 ::)

on some powersupplys it trips to the middle which is off or a fuse or some ------- ----.. so you gotta flip it back and fourth to get it to work ::)


Originally Posted by Inquisition
Is there any way to isolate the issue? How can I find out its either the video card or the mobo? Is the only way to replace the video card or mobo?

if your computer didnt beep when you took the memory out its the mobo..

even with a fried video card the pc would have beeped when you took the ram out.... and it would have powered on fine to where you would have heard the windows log on ----

bigdaddyvtec 10-30-2007 11:26 AM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 
Thats what you get for being a stupid ----.

buk9tp 10-30-2007 11:34 AM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 
gonna log into the dell optiplex and give you screenshots in a sec..

i just sold my mac so the tower isnt for sale anymore.. lol


HMTguy 10-30-2007 11:42 AM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 
Tigerdirect, there's your problem.

Inquisition 10-30-2007 11:49 AM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 

Originally Posted by jagojon3
Tigerdirect, there's your problem.

Newegg charges me tax. The also had a very very very similiar product available at the time I was buying the computer. It was $50 less but only had 1 GB of ram and a worse video card. The computer had really good reviews overall and won a couple of awards for case design and such. If the mobo/processor failed, it could be my fault. I broke my PC fan installing a new HD and installed another one from an older computer. It may not have been powerful enough, but I highly doubt it.

buk9tp 10-30-2007 11:53 AM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 
boosh niggger whaaaaaaaaaaaaat
http://i19.tinypic.com/53oo651.jpg

stevenb 10-31-2007 05:22 AM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 

Originally Posted by buk9tp
boosh niggger whaaaaaaaaaaaaat
http://i19.tinypic.com/53oo651.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...viilboy/eh.png

Eh, I win.

Jcushing 10-31-2007 11:48 PM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 
you win at what? cause your processor is better? im pretty sure if buk is selling that PC then he has a better one that hes using....

although pentium4's do suck....

Econo-Box 11-01-2007 12:03 AM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 

Originally Posted by Jcushing

although pentium4's do suck....

Oh yeah and hows that? cause there is a faster one? ::)

stevenb 11-01-2007 12:13 AM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 

Originally Posted by 97EconoBox
Oh yeah and hows that? cause there is a faster one? ::)

hehe. :)

Jcushing 11-01-2007 09:20 AM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 

Originally Posted by 97EconoBox
Oh yeah and hows that? cause there is a faster one? ::)

no, actually because compared to their AMD equivelant they ran hotter, were more power hungry, had less operations per clock cycle, and were thus overall slower especially per dollar spent. not to mention when they first came out they used rambus ram.

the new intel line is vastly better than their old stuff.

i dont know what the ---- your rolling your eyes at....

Econo-Box 11-01-2007 03:22 PM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 

Originally Posted by Jcushing
no, actually because compared to their AMD equivelant they ran hotter, were more power hungry, had less operations per clock cycle, and were thus overall slower especially per dollar spent. not to mention when they first came out they used rambus ram.

the new intel line is vastly better than their old stuff.

i dont know what the ---- your rolling your eyes at....

you are joking right? just how old do you think P4's are there guy? cause most of the ones I see are around the 2.8 HT mark. running cool, one of the main features of the P4 is the ability to reduce clock speeds at high temperatures. thats why they freeze when they over heat instead of pop like the AMD's. Now sure the AMD 64 bit runs cooler but I mean i think thats is considerably Newer than a P4.

Go pull a heat sink off of an AMD processor and pull one off of a P4 of the same equivalent and see what happenes. i promise you will be able to use the p4 when you are done.

Econo-Box 11-01-2007 03:31 PM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 
Saying that ALL p4's are shitty because of teh random heat dissapation issues they had near the end when they were close to 3 gigs is retarted.

I mean are you really saying the P4 2.8 Hyper thread wasnt hot ---- when it came out? :1

Tom-Guy 11-01-2007 05:10 PM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 

Originally Posted by 97EconoBox
Go pull a heat sink off of an AMD processor and pull one off of a P4 of the same equivalent and see what happenes. i promise you will be able to use the p4 when you are done.

You remember the videos of the P4's that blow up and knock a hole in the motherboard without the heatsink attached? You might want to revise that statement.


Econo-Box 11-01-2007 05:33 PM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
You remember the videos of the P4's that blow up and knock a hole in the motherboard without the heatsink attached? You might want to revise that statement.

Nope never heard of them. Not to say it didn't happen i mean for gods sake I certainly am not an expert on all things PC related and stated I knew abotu the Heat disapation issues that Certain models of the later P4s had but honestly its not a large enough percentage in my opinion to warrant all p4's as junk.

Specifiably i was thinking about the Tom Hardware guide bivs of them playing like quake or something and poping the Heat sinks off of teh Processor mid game.
AMD popped like a bomb everytime. as soon as you would snap the heat sink back on the PC the game would resume right where it left off practically instantly.

Im no Intel fan boi, i just bit at his statement cause it sounded biased and weak. if it can be backed up then cool i learn something. but i know my 2.8 ht p4 has seen 3.2 with a normal temperature during my Test loads.
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...5645#msg865645

HMTguy 11-01-2007 05:37 PM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 
68k processor owns all of you. So does Z80.

Econo-Box 11-01-2007 05:40 PM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 
i miss my turbo button.

Jcushing 11-01-2007 06:21 PM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 

Originally Posted by 97EconoBox
but i know my 2.8 ht p4 has seen 3.2 with a normal temperature during my Test loads.
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...5645#msg865645

my point is that clock speed doesnt matter, dollar for dollar AMD's were faster when P4's were "hot ----". comparably speaking you got a faster cooler running chip for less money with the AMD crowd. saying one can run with a heat sink off doesnt mean ---- to me... whens the last time you had your HS fall off? they had to put that fearure in there beacuse their processors ran rediculously hot right out of the box with an anemic factory cooler to the point that on stock settings under load they shut down. p4's were just popular becuase they got the contracts for all the big name computer companys..

it doesnt really matter anyway, they stopped making p4's for a reason (notice they still make athlon series). i have a core 2 now and those are a whole different ball game....

Econo-Box 11-01-2007 06:30 PM

Re: My computer has AIDs. Monitor is displaying "No Signal Output"
 

Originally Posted by Jcushing
my point is that clock speed doesnt matter,

Disagree totaly. Higher clock speeds directly equate to higher voltage. you cant make power from nothing so once they sarted to push the envalope of the design it got hotter. when i OC'd that 2.8 you got to be crazy to think i wasn't pushing more voltage to it. you boost you gotta get fuel from somewhere.

i agree with the duo core ---- though. i built one about 2 months ago and i held on to it for a day longer cause i thought something was wrong with it. it ran at like 60 Celsius while trying to burn and watch a movie, little 2.4 was fast as ----.


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