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what do you guys think about 99 - 03 mustangs gt.. im thinking about getting one soon because its faster then a 03 si or rsx but the only downside is its a ford..

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nothing is wrong with ford automobiles, the only reason any car breaks down is bad design which now adays almost all cars are built pretty good and second you beat the hell out of a car and it is bound to break down sometime. For a ford mustang i wouldnt settle for anything less the the v8 with a manual tranny but otherwise i have had a few friends with built mustangs that felt like your neck was gonna snap off ;)

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This thread is probably going to turn into a flame war which is a shame. I bought my first Mustang this summer and so far its been the most fun car I've ever owned. RWD, torque, and a limitless supply of cheap parts is awesome.


There are 2 types of people in the world; those who hate Mustangs and those who own one...

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Unlimited amounts of potential in the mustang gt. I would get one. The difference will mainly be in your goals. You want cheap power and performance, get it, it will be fast for next to nothing. If you want to build a ricey car, get a jap car. Mustangs look great the way they come, nothing needed, but then again they will look like a million more out there, wish is fine with people like me.

I have always liked mustangs, my brother has a 66 302 swapped mustang, and a 99 cobra.

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that body style actually went to 04 ;) my buddy has an 02 and he's let me drive it, I love that car, it looks sick its black with 18inch black saleen wheels, another friend of mine has a 95gt convertable thats got some mods its a pretty fun car to drive as well, easy to get sideways ;D I was considering a fox body as my next car since they go fast for cheap and I like the sound of twin turbo or nitrous.

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k cool i think im going to get one when the time is right.. is mustangs resale value pretty good. i know its not as good as hondas but i want a car that i can resell in a few years and make most of my money back.

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not really.

most new cars are not a good investment no matter what kind it is 8)

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dont expext it to be a handler. mustang suspensions are based on the 30 year old pinto design. although refined over the years.
as far as aftermarket parts, you whouldnt have any problem at all finding them. theres as many aftermarket parts as hondas. the 302 has been around forever. for about the same price though id go with an lt1 or ls1 z28 which whould own the stang any day.

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personally prefer to not own a mustang. to get a good mustang you have to get the top of the line. its cobra or broke for me, i wouldnt want to waste my time with anything else. that and i dont like the interior or how it feels to drive. stock they look pretty lame to me as well, after wheels and suspension it starts looking pretty sweet.

i was just never a ford guy. i'm not really an american car guy although i still appreciate awesome american cars, vette c06 for example. but its just not my cup of tea

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pinto has sla front suspension and mustangs have struts. they both get coil springs though maybe thats what you ment ::)

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you're an idiot, the all the LT1 and LS* powered cars are a lot more expensive

and my stang handles great

and there has always been more support for the 5.0 motor than any honda. maybe the hondas ae catching up now.

BTW not all 302 motors are the same ::)

the 5.0 HO is different than the old 302s

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mustangs handle great. way better than any small jap car ive owned. they look nice. tons of torque. quick from the factory. and the finish in the interiors is nice. not bashing gm but its better than what you would find in a trans am or a camaro. id get one for sure.

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1986 gt was my first "real" car, hell of a fun ride, simple and cheap to make fast, reliable, and belive it or not it got decent gas mileage. Honda's are great and all that, but the stang was a really fun animal....rwd + tq + gears = sex....

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calm down guys ::) all im sayng is that the mustang up until now is or was on a very old platform. im not saying mustangs are bad cars. im a big fan of the foxbodies myself. but you have to respect the lt1 or ls1 when compared to the 5.0. but i do agree that mustangs are cheap, and aftermarket parts are plenty.
i might add that he was talking about the 99 and up stangs which didnt have a 5.0. they were weaker, heavyer , and more expensive than the foxbodies.

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I'm impressed not too much hate has been shown. Maybe we are changing, or maybe people are just sleeping :8 :y

I can tell you won't be dissapointed, they are great cars. As far as resale value, well they are not honda or subaru or pretty much most jap or german cars. American cars lose their value faster than the imports. But like they said before, on most newer cars you are already loosing money when you take it off the dealership. Even more when there's a new model already out as the 2005 mustang is. When it's under the same generation people tend to get whatever year because they all look the same, but when a new model comes out, people are stupid enough to do whatever they need to get the new car before their friend can get it.
If you get an 03-04 you might not loose too much money, but if you get a 99, which you can probably find for 7-8g's, or less, don't expect o make your money back.

Good luck and post some pictures when you get it.

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makes sure you get a GT or Cobra. I aint a Mustang if it dont have a V8 ;)

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the 4.6 32 valve v8 whould be the one to get. it responds well to mods.

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I know some 12 sec svo guys that woudl disagree....yes i know we were talking about "new" stangs, sorry...

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my brother-inlaw put one of the 32 valve v8 motors in his 64 1/2 convertable. with just mild tunning, exhaust, chip, no cat. hes got over 380 horses.

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and btw lt1s arent expensive ive seen them go for under 5k
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevr...90936868QQrdZ1
mustang only has a t5 tranny. the z28 has the 6 speed that gives you 30 on the highway

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ya do a head gasket on that pos and u will hate it ok it so damn tight in that chevy

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A mustang huh.....
I`ve seen one like this but with black/chrome rims.
https://www.mustangworld.com/ourpics.../richsal18.JPG
https://www.mustangworld.com/ourpics.../richsal17.JPG

that black/blue strip remind me of road race engineering LOL

http://www.mustangworld.com/ourpics/News/select3005.htm

I`d rock one anyday. 8) (if i have the cash :P)

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Some mustang stuff:
The fox bodied mustangs 1979-1993 and the sn95 mustangs were based on the same platform. This IS an old platform but it is not the pinto one, it is the fairmont one. That being said, they pull skidpad numbers of around 0.85gs in stock form. This varies between years but certainly the later ones are there and above. IRS cobras do better.

Motorwise some highlights:

79-95 were 5.0s in the V8s (except a few horrible early 80s 4.2s!) You can have a V8 in a hatchback (GT or LX with GT having more ground effects etc, the LX having the identicle drivetrain and lighter) or a notchback (LX only) or a vert. (GT or LX). 94 Marked the beginning of the sn95 bodystyle. Best GT horsepower stock was 225. Until 92, they had forged pistons. The 94 and 95 were rated less than 225hp with a new way of measuring (full accessories on etc)

Of interest are the SVO mustangs in the mid 80s. They came with turbocharged 2.3 liter motors and put out similar numbers to the V8s of their time. They also came with intercoolers (some?) and disc brakes. they were more expensive than the V8 cars and did not sell great. They were lighter and handled better.

1993 There was also a cobra and cobra R. The R is super rare and was only sold to people with a competition liscense. It had the same drivetrain as the cobra. It was lightened and reinforced, had better brakes and lacked all luxury items (no radio, ac, power etc.) The hp rating was something like 240 for these. They did change the way they measured it so the number is on the conservative side.

1996-1998 were the first modular motor mustangs. These are the 4.6 liter motors. They are a ground up new design and share nothing with the 5.0. The 4.6 block is a good bit better than the 5.0 block. The pistons on the 4.6s were all hypereutectic. GTs made 215 hp in 96 and 97 and 225 in 98. Cobras used a similar mod motor but employed an aluminum block cast in italy by teskid (sp?) and completely different 4 valve heads. They rev easily to near 7K. They have a forged crank. The hp was 305.

1999-2004 GT motors recieved performance improved (PI) heads and hotter cams. hp was 260-280 for various editions.
The 1999 Cobra had some issues. It came with IRS and a supposed 320 hp. It was found that they dynoed lower and there was a "fix" offered by the dealers.
No 2000 cobra.

2001-2 cobras had and upgraded IRS and conservative 320 hp.

2003-2004 cobras are amazing. They have a fully built forged motor and an intercooled eaton supercharger. They are extremely conservatively rated at 390 hp. Those cars have all kinds of very easy upgrades to 500+++ hp with no internal mods.

They hold their value ok but not great. You can pick up a 96 cobra for like 6 grand. An 03 or 04 is going to be in the 20s. The value fall plateaus at some point.
Erich

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if u cant decied between a mousetang and a honda just buy a ford engine and put it in the honda foronda new breed

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Lol define "weaker." When I was looking at Mustangs I was specifically looking for a mod motor becuase they are a stronger motor. Rods, pistons and a cobra crank in a mod block is capable of 1000+ hp when the old 5.0 motors break in half around 500hp.

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so since the 99 had some problems i dont want that will a 2000-2002 gt be a good choice? ive found a few for around 13 grand

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I don't own a Mustang and I like them. :P
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yeah ive heard really good things about boost on the mod motors, they seem really strong especially compared with the old 5.0 . I have to admit, im not really a mustang guy, but the new one looks pretty cool

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Shouldn't you be locking threads or banning people? :P

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That's it, 48hour ban for you! >:D

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Me to, but I only like 2 mustangs, anything under 1970, and anything from like 00-04. I think the new ones r ugly as ----. and all the ones in between arent to tempting either. And you can get the mustang as fast as any honda for cheaper.

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why do you say you can get a mustang as fast a honda . a mustang will rape a honda. if the honda is boosted then it might beat the mustang but if you turbo the mustang the mustangs going to still beat the honda pretty much no matter what.

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yeah just buy it and drive it ???

but yeah mustangs are fine but Id rather have an LS1, but not an lt1 those are ------- ----
and If you want to go fast you'd be better off trying to find a dual over head one

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i hate the power band on mustangs, i drove a saleen, and at low rpm it had decent pull and nice torque, but at about 4k it fell flat on its face, felt like the clutch slipped it fell so hard, but i obviously knew the clutch wasnt slipping.high end power is more fun than low end

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horsepower sells cars torque wins races.

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yeah,but not when it peaks at 3k

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I am a huge fan of the 99-04 Mustangs.I didnt really like the body style before as they are a little weak looking.I like the comments on "you can make a Mustang as fast as a Honda".Go to the dragstrip when they have the fastest street car shootouts on.I have seen high 8 second street legal and probably driveable around town Mustangs.One rewuest though: DONT PUT ------- FLOWMASTERS ON YOUR MUSTANG.I live in a town full of 5.0's it is one of the main modified cars you see here and half these fags put those shitty sounding Flowmaster mufflers on and it sounds like absolute ass.Almost as bad as a fartcan on a stock auto Civic.

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depends on the motor mods and which series mufflers they are ;)

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True.I live in FlowMaster ville and i have grown to hate that sound of whatever the common ones used are.Every dipshit in this town buys a foxbody stang puts on flowmasters and some dated 16-17 wheels then proceedes to rip around like a idiot.Or they step up to a Chevy/Ford 1/2 ton pickup and repeat the above but this time they buy some lame sticker for the rear window and drive past my ------- house at 5000rpm and 30 mph.It is the redneck version of ricer so potatoes I guess?The worst part is trying to keep track on which Mustangs are the fast ones so I dont pick on the wrong one and get owned hard.