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so i have to move, getting kicked out of my house and cali is to damn expensive to live. so im looking at moving to colorado to work for my dad.
ive worked for him for 4 years almost now. ive gotten maybe a 2 dollar raise, im still just a gopher for everyone, do everything. the only ---- im kind of specialized in is hyster forklift repair(ceritfied, but never used), and dock lok and dock leveler repair and maintnence.
my sister, who has no experience in anything but dental hygiene has had a company given to her by my dad and runs her own ---- after maybe 2 years of being upper managment.
my whole life i just wanted to take over his buisness, but im getting the feeling that this is never going to happen and im going to be 35 years old and he will sell the buisness out from under me and then im stuck with 13 or so yrs of experince in "maintenance".

or i can join the marines. kill things, blow ---- up, get room and board. travel. and if i get out hopefully have a nice size nest egg to start my own construction buisness.
down side is i will be definetly infantry, so i could die. or be horribly maimed.


any input from people in the military is greatly appreciated.

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First off I'm not in the military, and I appreciate everything the men and women do over there. I'm not totally against it, in fact I had joined the Navy at beginning of '07, but I had a kid and I couldn't imagine voluntarily leaving him behind to go traipsing through some other God forsaken country. I'm rambling... anyways, if I were in your position... no ties, no responsibilities to anyone, I would definitely have to sign up for some branch of the military. Last I heard (read: in Jan 07') Navy job title Master-at-Arms was offering me $20k bonus for signing up in DEP program or delayed enlistment program. Whatever you decide THINK ABOUT IT THOROUGHLY!!!! IT TOOK ME AWHILE AND SOME SERIOUS NINJA MOVES TO GET OUT MY ENLISTMENT INTO THE NAVY.

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isn't the age limit for enlisted 24 years old in the marine corps? i could be wrong and should prob search lol

edit my search says 29

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24, yes. im getting close.

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- Make a deal with dad. Work for him, ask him to pay for college for a business degree, once the degree is complete, and grades are maintained, you are to get management or ownership path for the company.

- Do not join the Marines or Army, to avoid infantry mess. Join Air Force instead, hold out for a technical, engineering, or specialist position in a field you desire. Go to college while you are in the service, they pay with GI Bill. Don't get caught up in partying too much. Complete college in your career field, get out of Air Force with degree and four years experience. Even if you don't attend college, you can still get an Airframe and Powerplant certification, and work at any airport in the nation.

- Or have no plan, be a grunt, shoot and kill people, and have nothing to show for it when you get out.


Seems like a no brainer to me.

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I fixed this quote for you. I am not anti-military, but I do not like the way our vets are treated once they are no longer of any use to the military. These guys risk their lives for our country and then when they need us, we turn our backs on them.

If you want to have sex with a man in uniform, there are easier ways to get that without signing up.

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If you decide to go into the military don't be a ------- idiot. Choose a job that can translate to something in the civilian world. There are many technical fields in the military that can open a lot of doors for you when you get out.

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being in the military (ARMY) and currently stationed in none other than Iraq I must say, do not become infantry. Yes it might be an adventure and a life experience many can't ever compare. Think about your future though, isn't this what this post is about? WTF are you going to do civilian side with infantry exp? worse yet, wtf are you going to be doing if you get injured? Don't be dumb, I'm going to agree a bit with Craig and say pick something with a future. Air Force the women are definitely hotter, but AF is nothing to brag about. Pick a MOS with a civilian side future if you do enlist. You'll regret it later.

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I'm just gonnna say don't even try it since you're hell bent on being Rambo. When me and my friend enlisted, he chose Infantry because he wanted to be the one playing rambo.

Long story short, he hated it because of all of the additional physical training and all the hiking and ---- they had to do with all the heavy ass equipment.

Basically if you're gonna go, don't go as Infantry because you're gonna go in thinking you'll get to kill people and it'll be like the movies and all that ----....but once you're there hauling around heavy ass equipment every day for a long period of time and long distances, you're gonna think about this post and think "that dude was right."

I got made fun of a lot in boot camp for my MOS, same thing with my other friend who just left a year ago as Admin...but our experiences after boot camp were a lot better than a grunt's in my eyes.

Besides, every Marine is a rifleman.

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i can understand what you guys are saying. i dont want to play rambo, its anything but a game, but i dont see any reason to join the military to get training in a civilian job. i can learn that stuff outside of the military.
if i joined i would want the extra training and hardships, otherwise i would continue doing what i do.
im good at building ----, and i can learn it working for my dad, or at some other job i dont need the military to show me that.
school was never for me, i learn better with my hands than with a book and bullshit homework assignments.

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So do I. But having that piece of paper will earn you a lot more money and make life a lot easier.

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Im in the Marine Corps. Been in for 6.5 years now. What do you wanna know?

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jesus ----, there's nothing wrong with infantry. i did it for 4 years, got out, got a job where i make decent money (65K a year), own a house, car, motorcycle, and truck.

i say go infantry. i did it, it was a blast.

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I agree. I was never a grunt, but did alot of support ---- for them, and it was a blast. Tanks, LAR, LAV, artie...good times.

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i think that im going to have a sit down with my dad and discuss my future in the company, and if we cant work anything out where i can phase into control(which i want to do, its a million+ dollar buisness), then im going to join.

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dont rely on family for ----. your dad probably gave it to her because he thought you wouldnt have a problem getting whatever you want for yourself.

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Ya you laugh till your muthafuckin' ass gets drafted,
While you're at band camp thinkin' the crap can't happen,
Till you ---- around,
Get an anthrax napkin,
Inside a package wrapped in saran Wrap wrapping,
Open the plastic and then you stand back gasping,
------' assassins hijackin' Amtracks crashin,
All this terror America demands action,
Next thing you know you've got Uncle Sam's ass askin'
To join the army or what you'll do for there Navy.
You just a baby,
Gettin' recruited at eighteen,
You're on a plane now,
Eatin their food and their baked beans.
I'm 28 ,
They gon take you 'fore they take me
Crazy insane or insane crazy?
When i say Hussien you say Shady,
My views aint changed still Inhumane,
Wait,
Arraigned two days late,
The date's today,
Hang me!
:3

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Why not talk to your dad? If you want to buy/run his business in the future, he should know that. He might figure you work there because the job was given to you and you're too lazy to look for another job. If you're not man enough to approach your dad saying you want to some day run his business, you don't deserve the opportunity. If your dad doesn't have enough balls to tell you honestly one way or the other if he would give you the business, ---- him and move on.

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i joined the military(ARMY) and i am infantryman( 11B all the way) and its worth it. They feed you , clothe you, give you a roof over your head and they pay you to shoot ---- and blow things up >:D . whats better than that? I think everyone should do it :y

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Am i the only military guy that says, "Don't freaken join under no circumstances."

it's all about control with the military. if you feel the need for someone, something, or some ideal to Run your life from cradle to grave, then go ahead and be a sheep of the idealogic militaristic tradition.

if you want a true free advice.

walk your own path.. and make your own journey..

i personally think. you should talk with your dad. ask him what the future holds for you with him. you obviously want to succeed your pops.

but if his goal doesn't involve you in it.. then you better man up and grow the ---- up and survive on your own like all the rest of us are doing.

that doesn't mean join the bandwagon like most teen adolescent right out of high school. <--- that's who i was) now that im out of active duty stuck in the reserves with 6 years under my belt. i can truly say that the military. regardless of branch weather marines, Air force, Aramy, or Navy.. it's bullshit it's all bullshit.

so don't join because you think it's your only other choice.. it isn't.

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or he thought you were a dumb ass... like that movie Tommy boy

7 years in college and your not a doctor? :P

no really though i think 45psi is right

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then again, you believe that our nations leaders are puppets to aliens, so anything you have to say on this subject is null and void.

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VOTED MARINES
Cause I pay taxes and we need more employement. :S

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don't join the military leave that to the mexican's.
ive had family members and countles friends screwed by the military. army, NG(NG is the WORST) and marines. obviously you don't wanna be a navy butt pirate so... maybe maintenance for the AF lmao seriously tho... military = im greatful but they screw people.



might aswell get your CDL and go work for iraq for some corperation. make some big money instead of that lowball bitch pay the mil does.

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The only way you'll come out of the military with ---- is if you go to school while you're in. The same as if you went to school while you're not in, except you don't have a government approved 24 hour a day babysitter. In the fucked up podunk city of thier choice of course.

Talk to your dad, and if it's not there, find a job and live your life.

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we have talked about it, since i was about 13 and started roofing with him. ive never gotten a solid answer and he likes to manipulate things.
i know how to deal with that, and i will. if i cant get him to commit something to me than i will move on.

dont get insulting if you dont know what you are talking about. i take great offense to you insinuating that i lack work ethic, or the fortitude to talk to my dad.

ive had 4 other jobs while continually working for him and when we had a falling out, all were gained through word of mouth because i have an excellent work ethic and every employer i have had has asked repeatedly for me to come back to work for them and refers me to people they know.

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this is possible the best explanation for the situation im in.

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pick up a welder and move to the midwest... or anywhere for that matter... U can live nicely for 30,000 a year where i live(fargo, ND) after a year in the field.

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he wants to be areassured that joining the military will turn him as homosexual as you, frank.

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---- the military
unless you are a complete piece of ---- with no other options

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check out this link, man. This guy is sorta in the same boat as you and asked our local forum about the military, and got straight up no bullshit answers from people who have been in for 2 years all the way to people who have retired from the military. Our local forum is about 85-90% military, some hate it, some love it. Its much easier than me typing everything all over again. Go read through the entire thread.

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Im in the Marines Corps infantry and I'm in Iraq right now. if you've got questions let me know... as far as jobs that transfer to the civilian world, i would'nt worry about that as much... you can basically walk onto any state police department or any other federal job just by the fact that you are a marine. yeah the infantry is harder then most other jobs cause of all the field ops and ---- not to mention the fact that when you do go overseas you won't be chilling on a base all day but in the end its a very rewarding experience and joining was without a doubt the best decision i ever made. if you have questions let me know

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ummm i was in one of the better mechanical engineering schools in the country on a full scholarship with a halfway decent gpa... the "other options" arent always what people are looking for.

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1.Move to Alberta, Canada

2.Get a job on an Oil Rig

3.Profit

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no no no, the leader of the world are the same rulers of the past. the kings, faros, czars etc.. etc. and YES they are the puppets to the inter-dimensional. they don't have the back bone to stand up for humanity. they only want to sit in the light of glory. as being the most powerful position on the planet. only by following the rules of their pagan religion. it's selfish, greedy and ment to induce fear. it's all low frequency vibrations that will not exist when we all ascend. if you do ascend in this current time period.

and enough of me hijacking the thread. i am in the military and as a reservest.. i can tell you by my own personal experiance. don't join.. seriously don't join.. all because of one reason..

i Do not enjoy at any instance the idea of an obligation.. and you will be obligated to do things you do and don't not want to do. and you have to do it.. because.. you signed for it and because you sign for it you are obligated. noone in this forum will disagree with me on this pretense. that something you have to consider. if you your self want to be obligated and committed for 8 YEARS OF YOUR LIFE that's 1/9 of your average lifetime. make your own choice..

why not make your own business and start off from scratch? if you have the rep you say you do.. why not branch off on to your own..

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money, i have maybe 2000 dollars cash, and the only hard asset i own is my chevelle which i plan to be buried in.

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The only part of this that makes sense is where he says not to join the marines.. What a nutjob

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you sound like quite an idiot.

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but alas.. you are the true idiot.

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w/ cost of living in alberta good luck
+ loosing a limb/lung or any other part of the body that is affected by the toxicity in the oil