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I have never studied marhtur luthor king, and I'm unaware of what exactly he did for black people. The only thing my generation has to compare him to is Jesse Jackson, a puppet for for getting up in front of crowds of black people and wiggling his neck while squblin and sqaublin about how blacks are born with a jail cell waiting for them. To my knowledge though, he's never actually done anything to help blacks get ahead.

Am I mistaken, or could the government have labeled a day for the first Jesse Jackson thinking it would make them look more sensative of the issue, while not really giving a ----?

And furthermore, how do we praise the defiance of Rosa Parks for simply saying she wasn't going to get off the bus? Did she really change history, or was the event hyped in order to make it seem like some big momentus decision? I can't help but think of all the defiant blacks since who have said, "I ain't goin' out like dat, pigs" to police officers and how they'll never be recognized for thier involvement in the civil rights movement.

Let's get to the bottom of this.

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and here comes stevemode with the conspiracy theory. makes sense.

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I don't really have a conspiracy theory, this is just my view based on what little I know about what he did for black people.
I saw a couple old interviews of him on TV last night, and while his comments seemed very educated and well thought, his public appearances in front of blacks would remind you of just another black guy with a perscription to jive.

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god damn it.

i live in detroit and were force fed this ----..

MLK started the million man march.. and other forms of pacifict movements.. he told blacks to stop using violence.. and that they could better acheive there goals via pacifit movements i.e. sit ins and such.. while other people were going arround saying lets meeet violence with violence.. and ---- all whites.. MLK sai integration.. and that whites and blacks are the same people and we should work on this hand in hand!

rosa parks started the montgomry ??? bus boycott, that showed people that blacks were a force to reckon with... and started desegregation.. and other ---- like that..

jesse jackson and alsharpton are just confused people.. they dont know what the ---- they want.. ;D

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Why do you hate black people so much stevemode?
Don't tell me that you don't because I can find at least 10 quotes on this site where you have something negative to say about them.l

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Dang Bukkake,

Nicely put! Way to sum it up, without editorializing....

Craig

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and why give them the shortest month in the year. because it shuts them up and makes it look like the rest of us care. and its funny cuz any skool bus or public bus ive been on the minorities mostly sit in the back. but that not because they are minorities its because the gotta bang a few rails or get the rest of the bubbles out and tie ---- up. its funny cuz it really solved nothing. infact letting others sit on the bus prob helped the whites by forcing car companies to make cheaper cars so they dont have to take the bus any more.

its llike dealing with a whiny kid all day long he screams how he wants a big toy. so when the first small toy comes along you give it to him because he thinks he wants it and it shuts him up. and it wasnt a huge bank breaker so it didnt ---- you up to much and for now hes happy.

control.

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Having something negative to say and hating are two different things. I don't hate any single person in life.This post also isn't meant to convey "hate". I'm telling you how I see it, and hopefully a discussion can be started where some of us learn more about why we have this holiday, because right now I view it as a pacifier.

Or we could all shut up and not attempt to get it figured out. It's your choice.

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Sounds good. :P
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He plagairised his doctoral thesis.

Rosa Parks is a hardcore lady.

That is all.

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What kills me is do why have a national white month? What about all the white people that fought for our rights against England? Do we have a national Spanish or Indian or Native American month? How about NAAWP? Where are the White American college funds?

I always thought it was so funny to see films in school or the Black Panthers and their parades and gatherings. Yet eveyone wants to talk about the KKK being bad. The freaking Black Panthers are just as bad. Yet nothing is done because.....wait for it....their BLACK. "African Americans" complain about so much, yet really have everything handed to them. Oh and the whole "African American" crap is totally wrong also. To be a citizen of this country you must denounce their citizenship to any other country. So you can't be African and American...you are either or.

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Well I this is already going off-topic, but I'll just stick to stealthmode's first comments. MLK was a badass guy. He was the black peoples' leader and encouraged them to be fight racism by using their heads instead of their fists. If you think about it, if blacks didnt have a leader as powerful as him, it could have gone into a completely different direction.

Blacks would have begun to actually fight back on the whites and that would have resulted in a mini civil war. All the major cities would have been in chaos and their would have been lots of bloodshed.

Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson were actually part of MLK's youth leadership. MLK had his own little possee. Here is a picture of Jesse Jackson w/ MLK one day before the assassination:
http://www.samsloan.com/king-jes.jpg

Personally, I think that MLK is rolling in his grave right now hating himself for the direction which black people have turned to. If he knew that black leadership would have gone from him, to what it is today, he would have probably jumped off that balcony.

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Why couldn't they have shot Jesse Jackson instead of MLK Jr? Hell, shoot Al Sharpton too, MLK was better than both of them combined.

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I dont think a man would be respected as much if he was just any old day black dude. He is known around the world for his contributes, not just the U.S. I'm not condoning everything he did, even Rosa Parks said she disagreed to some extent as a black female in the Civil Rights movement with what his points and goals led to. but for the most part, he changed a part of American and worldwide history and even got a damn holiday. His non-violent approach was perhaps respected and disrespected as much as Muhatma Gandhi.....some thought that violence in certain aspects was necessary.

The whole thing with Rosa Parks was planned and built off that one bus ride. She did not refuse to sit in the black area of the bus, but she refused to get up IN HER OWN black area of the bus, when a white man got on the bus and there were no more seats. She was then brutalized and who knows what for her rebellion, but it did instigate the Bus boycott and several other boycotts. She worked somewhat with her own group of civil rights people, somewhat with the NAACP, somewhat with King, somewhat on her own. I think it is her image and her courage perhaps that people like most, rather than what she did.

I'm a History major, so this is all just history. My personal views are somewhat different on the civil rights movement, haha.

On the Black History Month thing, I think people just need to know more about why its there and what it does, just like Affirmative Action. However, I dont see any Native American Holidays coming out anytime soon, or Asian Holidays, and godamn Mexican Holidays, so who knows! I think its Americanized guilt from the past.

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independence day ;)

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MLK was a good guy, Jesse jackson is a terrible human being who should be hung for treason

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That is one day for how many people?

Why should MLK get his own day? Just call it Desegregation Day

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I want a month, damn. I can hoot and hollar and make white people feel good. I really can.

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My personal opinion on this was that he was a great man, and tried his hardest to promote peace and equality. That was all great, and people stood by him until he was assassinated...

Then slowly but surely, the same people who followed him started to churn up all that hate they had for white people, but didn't show it outwardly.. Instead, they ------ it at home and let their kids make what they wanted of it.

But till I die, I will never understand why black people so loosely use the word "nigga", but defend themselves if it falls out of the mouth of any other race.. ----, if you call your mom, dad, uncle, pastor, etc "nigga" how can it be a word that you have to defend when a white person says it?

Blacks around me since I have grown up have had STRONG double standards which they themselves have created. They always complain that they can't get a good job, but aren't willing to change their ghetto attitudes and speak like they have sense when they try to find a job. This usually ends with them working at a fast food resaurant and complaining that white people hold them down, and that racisim isn't dead... Give me a break.

In the neighborhoods I grew up in, the people only aspired to be drug dealers, rappers, and sports players. They never stopped to think that a) drug dealers are bad people, get caught, and live shitty lives, b) NONE OF THEM CAN ACTUALLY RAP, and c) They suck at sports compared to the neighborhoods across town, how could they possibly play professionally?

I could go on about how blacks have influenced me, but the truth is, if it werent for my personality, many of the blacks I have been involved with since childhood would only have lead me to become racist. Its bullshit when your friends mom lets all the black boys in and sends the "cracker" home. To this day when I see that women I just laugh and go about my business with the thought that she brings the racism around her upon herself........................................... ...... As do many I know.

PS: This is my opinion based on where I grew up and will most definately differ from some of your own experiences.

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the whole month wasnt for him. who the hell is marthur? ???

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[img width=400]http://www.morethings.com/fan/pictures/barbershop/rosa_parks.jpg[/img]

From Barbershop 2002 :P

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we dont celebrate his birthdday.. on mlk day we dont buy a cake and remember that he was born on this day.. would you rather us celebrate it on his death?
on mlk day people give speaches and ----.. pro peace. pro human rights. anti death penalty anti abortion all thease people are active in demonstrations on this day.. it isnt called desgragation day.. but some people call it human rights day... but mlk bday is more popular.. i call it human rights day myself.. but it doesnt mean i dont think mlk played a big role in the civil rights movement.. its just a day.. many people were opposed to it.. but it became a law.. and it still is..

see where im coming from?

where your coming from is arround the lines of.. gays have gay pride day.. so why dont all of us strait people have strait pride day?
there has been a strait pride day before.. but it was just for shits and giggles. i know. because i was there.. i had fun ;D

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you shouldn't really get offended by that, I think blacks should get offended because we only learn about black history in the shortest month of the year. the rest of the year is white history. I know because I went to school in the states, and took three history classes in my senior year.and all I learned about was white history.. I was not born and raised in the states, so the scools did not teach me ---- about black history in the states

why not just do away with all the black history, and hispanic history, and include us in the rest of the year, instead of one month
IMO African Americans should get offended for having the shortest month, intead of being included in history, other than black history. white people should not get offended.

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Haha I just notice, MARTHUR!

Go Marthur!

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come to detroit :S

i swear man.. we were force fed that ---- 24 hours a day (i dont mean it being ----.. im just saying) we got stories written by africans that were cast away exiles talking about how they remember there great grandfathers stories of how the whiteman came and started stealing kids from the villages :S or the corny movies and doccumentries one after another... and the book of short stories full of poems by black people.. some of them were good.. i.e. langston hughes w. e. b. du boises.. and theres like 5 other ones i really like.., but most of them were for the most part.. boring? i think books on black history were subsidized or something like that.. cause all they had was books by black authors! that was only english class.. ----.. social studies.. were supposed to learn bout presidents and ----.. instead we studied and emancipation proclamation?

people going arround saying its a great document and ----.. forcing us to memorize it... and then a black teacher telling us conspiracy theories showing us maps where is showed africa being smaller than the united states.. then showed us another map that shows true sizes of the continents.. i raised my hand and im like.. uhhh.. there are many different projections.. that one shows it like that.. doesnt mean theyre showing it on purpose.. then he's like then why is africa the only small continent.. so im like.. look at alaska.. he kicked me out the class...

then 2 years after that.. i met an old highschool freind.. and he was part of the bamm movement.. forgot what it was called.. and he wanted me to sign a petition to block a proposition that would have stopped affirmative action.. so im like why block the proposition? he says because if it goes through ittl pass... so im like how are you so sure ittl pass? he looked at me like i was retarded.. i told him isnt it the american way to vote on ----? why dont you get black people off there asses and get them to vote against the proposition.. that way you can shut up all thease people who say AA is illegal.. u just tell them it was voted on and approved..

FYI a judge rules AA illegal a month back or so here in michigan.. and blocked it.

if MLK was alive today. he would be ANTI affirmative action. he caleld for all people to be EQUAL. not that blacks should get 40 extra points in the point giving process for acceptence at the university..

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Well if you people would have contributed something positive to history than we might have given you a longer time to celebrate. Feburary is long enough to celebrate the discovery of armed robbery, driveby's and rape :P

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and its bullshit to teach in skools we need home skoolin for the rents. because you can learn all day in skool that people are equals but the second you get home to tell mommy and daddy about what you learned they caqn say no thats wrong do think like that white devil. they are the bad guys. ---- the parents

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hahahaha :6

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Of course the black culture hasn't become all it could, but if that's what we discuss in this post, we'll be here all day long.
More than anything I just want to know some specifics of what Marther did on the day we call his holiday. And there's no such thing as black history. History is history, and because it only involves one race doesn't make it white history, or black history ect.....

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all i know is my god damn parts arent gonna be here today because of national ------ day. also black folks need to get over themselves. they are the reason there is still racism today. kidst hat grow up today and talk about this and that about how theyre still affected by slavery. give me a ------- break. also another thing. i swear to god every god damn month except like 3 months out the year its black history month. wtf is that ----. im not racist but for fucks sakes black take advantage of ------- everything. well 98 percent of them do.

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Turn on PBS or the news and find out...

Asking here is like asking a Klansman where to get the best chitlins at. ::)

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MLK was a good man. He didn't bullshit and he just wanted people to get along. Most of the peeps on here already said all he did so no reason for me to get into this. He never really hated anyone..he just wanted his kids to grow up with your kids and chill.

And like it or not..the black culture has inspired alot in the american community :P

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Nah you're not racist at all :6 :1

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happy monkey luther king day everyone!!!

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there is a lot of civil rights taught in history classes probably too much... but the cold hard truth is that most of the united states history was made by the vast majority white people.

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you are not racist? making coments like that you are racist!

I am not born AMerican but not all blacks are the same, some of us will like like to see all this ---- end. I want equality, I hate affirmative action. I hate it that some blacks always use the racism card. I hate it that some blacks turn to crime. but I cant do anything about about it. but when people use the ---- that they see on tv to judge all blacks it heart my heart, I am an American not born , but I am American, but I am living in Germany, because I cant stand the racism. what make it even worst my wife is white, so I get this racist ---- from blacks and whites. I am an ambitious man dont judge me

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There are some cultural and genetic differences between white people and black people.

Each race has its good and bad people.

Each race is somewhat intimidated by another race, there's a communication barrier that creates an awkward situation when your in a different environment that you're not familiar with. This causes you to feel different and to be viewed as an outsider which most people are uncomfortable with. White people tend to be more reserved and black people tend to be more light hearted and open. So if you're white and in an all black environment you don't really know how to take it, and how to respond to what they say and how they act because you haven't grown up around that, and it intimidates people. People don't like to be intimidated so it turns off into hate. I don't really know what it would be like to be black in an all white environment. I'm sure its not the most pleasant at home feeling you've ever had and i think sometimes when people are "acting ghetto" they just have their defence up because they're not used to the environment. Its a way to maintain your culture and what your familiar with. I really don't think theirs anything you can do to change this situation. Its more of a thing time has to take care of. You can't tell people to change their life experiences, culture, and beliefs because they're wrong. Even if they are wrong its what they believe, and they'll probably argue that to the death because no one likes to be told they're wrong. Arguments like that just break off into a larger communication barrier and spin off into more hate.


And the word ------ or nigga. White people like to say it because we're not supposed to. Its like putting a button in front of a little kid and telling him not to touch it. We also like to ---- with people by insulting them. We might not actually mean it in a harmful way. It just happens to be our way of joking around. Some people do push it to far and use it to be hateful. You can use common sense to dictate when people are crossing that line. And as long as black people give power to the word and take such offence to it their will always be people who use it as a tool of hate. If you liberate the word from the shackles of hatred then it will not be an issue. I don't mean allowing white people to go around calling you ------ all day, that's not cool. But remember, its not fun to insult someone who's not ashamed or doesn't take offence to what ever your calling them. So by doing that you're taking the power and upper hand out of whoever made the comment and intern making them look like an ignorant -------.

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^^^^nice

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I watched PBS last night, that's how I came to the conclusion that his interviews were well thought out/articulated, but his public speakings were too Jesse Jackson(esque).
I didn't really make this post because I'm looking for HMT (Hating Minorities with Turbo's) lol to educate me on the history of Marthur. I just thought on MLK day a good discussion could take place, and we could all take from it. Having a "holiday" and not discussing it would kinda negate having the holiday in the first place.

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It's MARTIN you dumb hick :1