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HondaTuner 07-22-2005 10:30 AM
Re: LSD Intercoolers?
 
Originally Posted by Whitey
Originally Posted by customcoach
Originally Posted by Rx7toCivic
nope straight from cca, the mounting plates were welded on crooked, the welds were half-ass grinded down and it was half assed polished aswell
Thats funny. We dont polish intercoolers.


Damn he ------- owned you. ;D
lmao. Nice :D

If I were to go with an intercooler, I probably would go with CCA. It's been proven to be a good intercooler time and time again so hey, that's cool by me ^-^

87na_rx7 07-22-2005 12:58 PM
Re: LSD Intercoolers?
 
omg i was owned by someone that still uses geocities :'( ::), whatever the welds were still half-assed and the mounting tabs werent even straight

Reddy 07-22-2005 04:48 PM
Re: LSD Intercoolers?
 
Originally Posted by Rx7toCivic
omg i was owned by someone that still uses geocities :'( ::), whatever the welds were still half-assed and the mounting tabs werent even straight

You said you got the intercooler straight from CCA which obviously wasn't so becuase he doesn't sell polished intercoolers. Therefore it probably isn't a CCA intercooler. Your setting yourself up to get owned again becuase you obviously didn't get it straight from CCA like you said.

customcoach 07-22-2005 05:53 PM
Re: LSD Intercoolers?
 
Originally Posted by ju-on
Bar and plates were superior when it came to efficiency do to the fact that it has those turbulators inside. They mix the air around so that it all gets cooled. Cheap tube and fin cores either have no turbulators, or perfectly straight ones which don't do crap, so the only air getting cooled is the air on the edges that is touching the aluminum. Now a lot of tube and fin cores are implementing some turbulators on the inside to up their efficiency. Not sure how well they work as I have no experience with them, but I'd imagine they are a bit of improvement over the old ones with no turbulators at all. Ask for some pics of the insides of the cores and see if their tube and fin cores have turbulators.
Well you are mostly correct. It doesnt matter whether its bar and plate or tube and fin. Either one can have tubulators, no tubulators or extruded(straight) tubulators. It just depends on which one you get from the manufacturer. There are only about ten core manufacturers world wide. This stuff is very difficult and expensive to manufacture. The price of the core depends on the effort it takes to manufacture. Obviously the low price China intercoolers use the cheapest core possible. They get the bar and plate because that's what everybody wants, but they get the cheap bar and plate with extruded tubulators or no tubulators. Brand names mean NOTHING. Spearco, Greddy and countless other "brand name" intercoolers all buy their core from the same people I buy mine from. The only true test of an intercooler is temperature drop and pressure drop. It is physically impossible to look at an intercooler and tell if it's a good unit or not without knowing the core design and its' vital statistics.

90turboteg 07-22-2005 08:55 PM
Re: LSD Intercoolers?
 
i just got my cca today, it has alot of tubulators or w/e, i can see how it cools the air, i like it alot better than most intercoolers ive seen on the market. it has a nice fit in most hondas, fits perfect in my bumper, although i wont be turbo for a while, since i decied to take the safr route and build my motor. but the quauily is nice from cca, u can tell there professional welds, nicly cut endtanks and what not. its one of the better "NAME BRANDS" out there, haha, it is a name brand so what now 8) :P

ju-on 07-23-2005 12:36 PM
Re: LSD Intercoolers?
 
Originally Posted by customcoach
Originally Posted by ju-on
Bar and plates were superior when it came to efficiency do to the fact that it has those turbulators inside. They mix the air around so that it all gets cooled. Cheap tube and fin cores either have no turbulators, or perfectly straight ones which don't do crap, so the only air getting cooled is the air on the edges that is touching the aluminum. Now a lot of tube and fin cores are implementing some turbulators on the inside to up their efficiency. Not sure how well they work as I have no experience with them, but I'd imagine they are a bit of improvement over the old ones with no turbulators at all. Ask for some pics of the insides of the cores and see if their tube and fin cores have turbulators.
Well you are mostly correct. It doesnt matter whether its bar and plate or tube and fin. Either one can have tubulators, no tubulators or extruded(straight) tubulators. It just depends on which one you get from the manufacturer. There are only about ten core manufacturers world wide. This stuff is very difficult and expensive to manufacture. The price of the core depends on the effort it takes to manufacture. Obviously the low price China intercoolers use the cheapest core possible. They get the bar and plate because that's what everybody wants, but they get the cheap bar and plate with extruded tubulators or no tubulators. Brand names mean NOTHING. Spearco, Greddy and countless other "brand name" intercoolers all buy their core from the same people I buy mine from. The only true test of an intercooler is temperature drop and pressure drop. It is physically impossible to look at an intercooler and tell if it's a good unit or not without knowing the core design and its' vital statistics.
In your experience, how well do they work? Is their efficiency about equal to a bar and plate? I'm curious because they seem to cost a lot less then bar & plates. And if you can get damn near the same results outta it for less money, well then who doesn't want that!

customcoach 07-25-2005 07:53 AM
Re: LSD Intercoolers?
 
We have tested our SRT-4 tube and fin unit against the other guys SRT-4 bar and plate units. For half the price, our units perform exactly the same or better at the track, on the street and on the dyno. Many customers have made this comparison as well. We get Emails all the time saying My buddys got a Greedy/Speerco/AIS/PSI-FI unit he paid $750 for and I got yours. We went to the track and ran the same times. And as an added bonus the tube and fin core is lighter.

ju-on 07-25-2005 08:03 AM
Re: LSD Intercoolers?
 
do you have any pics of what they look like on inside the tubes?

customcoach 07-26-2005 07:31 AM
Re: LSD Intercoolers?
 
I will try to cut down some scrap core to show you what I am talking about.

projekteg 07-26-2005 08:16 AM
Re: LSD Intercoolers?
 
Originally Posted by Rx7toCivic
omg i was owned by someone that still uses geocities :'( ::), whatever the welds were still half-assed and the mounting tabs werent even straight
i've personally ordered 4 intercoolers from anthony in the past on 4 seperate occasions and not one was less than perfect. i find it a little hard to believe the intercooler you speak of came straight from anthony and rene'. hell, the last one i ordered was almost a year ago, so i doubt his craftsmanship has gotten anything but better over time, not to mention, like anthony already mentioned, he doesn't even polish his intercoolers at all. just fess up, you bought it from somebody that told you they got it from cca ::)


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