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Smith-02 04-02-2007 10:42 AM

a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...x/Image082.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...x/Image083.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...x/Image084.jpg

motor was orig head gasket from what i could tell, dunno how this happened. #3 cyl

397,xxx on the odometer, truck ran like a champ. pistons were soo strong, they held the ring in the ring groove long enough for DDing to compress the ring into 2 layers in stock groove thickness

the peppering on top of the piston is purely done by ring sharapnel, the valves and combustion chamber had a similar fate.

Jorsher 04-02-2007 10:59 AM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 
Goddamn, that's some long lasting engine. I often wonder how long a well maintained honda would last, but they usually get beat on, wrecked, or soon turbocharged...

hondarex2323 04-02-2007 10:59 AM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 
thats toyota for yea...the 22r's are great motors almost bullet proof....

themadhatter 04-02-2007 11:56 AM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 
the nice thing about toyotas are that they are over built from the factory 22r,4age,7m(not conting head gasket),1jz,2jz all have heavyduty parts(for the applications) so they live a long time and take a pretty good beating also the reason toyotas have generally cost more than other import brands in the past

jinxy 04-02-2007 12:00 PM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 

Originally Posted by themadhatter
,4age,7m(not conting head gasket),1jz,2jz

those are yamaha engines

themadhatter 04-02-2007 06:50 PM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 
4age is a cosworth copy lol ;D 7m is a toyota motor with a yamaha head :Slol and i don't know about the other two ???

Guy-Fast 04-02-2007 07:16 PM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 

Originally Posted by Jorsher
Goddamn, that's some long lasting engine. I often wonder how long a well maintained honda would last, but they usually get beat on, wrecked, or soon turbocharged...


Not even close to a toyota thats for sure.

Smith-02 04-02-2007 07:36 PM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 

Originally Posted by chris

Not even close to a toyota thats for sure.

waiting for my ss ell's from ace, my turbizzle from hooolio, got my boost gauge from donald today, woo!

J-SMITH69 04-02-2007 07:46 PM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 
22rs run forever cause they're gutless and make no power at all.


ichbinsobose 04-02-2007 07:48 PM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 

Originally Posted by random-strike
22rs run forever cause they're gutless and make no power at all.


amen

Smith-02 04-02-2007 07:50 PM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 

Originally Posted by random-strike
22rs run forever cause they're gutless and make no power at all.


not exactly true.

i've personally seen near 300hp n/a 22r's on dirt oval.

thats like a b18b1 making 430hp n/a. not possible
going all season at near redline rpm's and not rebuilding, 22r > honda

johnmichael 04-02-2007 07:57 PM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 

Originally Posted by c0mpl3x
not exactly true.

i've personally seen near 300hp n/a 22r's on dirt oval.

thats like a b18b1 making 430hp n/a. not possible
going all season at near redline rpm's and not rebuilding, 22r > honda

22r =2.2 liters displacement / 300 hp

136 hp per liter.

Would be like

B18C1 = 1.8 Liters X Same 136 Hp per liter= 244.8






Dr.Boost 04-02-2007 07:59 PM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 
I've seen a few crazy ass 22r's along with 20r's. There is a local shop that pumps out built Yota motors all day long. LCEngineering. I think their website is www.lcengineering.com

I love 22r's. :6
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HondaTuner 04-02-2007 08:10 PM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 

Originally Posted by johnmichael
22r =2.2 liters displacement / 300 hp

136 hp per liter.

Would be like

B18C1 = 1.8 Liters X Same 136 Hp per liter= 244.8

Hey fag, stick to your veeee dubssss

A 22r means its the 22nd generation of engines in the R family. Therefore a 20r is the 20th generation and so forth.

BTW the 22r is a 2.4 liter.


The 2-valve SOHC 2.4 L 22R was produced from 1981 through 1995.
As far as the hp/liter I don't understand his argument though, considering its a 2.4 and he's comparing it to a 1.8...

johnmichael 04-02-2007 08:14 PM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 

Originally Posted by SinisterCRX
Hey fag, stick to your veeee dubssss

A 22r means its the 22nd generation of engines in the R family. Therefore a 20r is the 20th generation and so forth.

BTW the 22r is a 2.4 liter.

As far as the hp/liter I don't understand his argument though, considering its a 2.4 and he's comparing it to a 1.8...

A poem:

blow me, you're right
but you still touch yourself
to the 1.8t
e'ry night.

Dr.Boost 04-02-2007 08:16 PM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 
:l
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HondaTuner 04-02-2007 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Boost
:l

Agreed.

I rode in a 1.8t with a few goodies on it and wasn't very impressed.

Dr.Boost 04-02-2007 08:24 PM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 

Originally Posted by SinisterCRX
Agreed.

I rode in a 1.8t with a few goodies on it and wasn't very impressed.

Well, I was referring to the poem. :1 I've never experienced a 1.8T, but I've heard they aren't even close to being fast. My buddy has a GTI that's pretty quick though......when it's running. :l
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johnmichael 04-02-2007 08:35 PM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 

Originally Posted by Dr.Boost
but I've heard they aren't even close to being fast.

1.8t, stock internals, pump gas

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...48521071&q=gti

HondaTuner 04-02-2007 08:49 PM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 

Originally Posted by Dr.Boost
Well, I was referring to the poem. :1

That's what the "agreed" part was for. ;) Poem was perfect for the :l smiley.

The car you posted looks quick though. The one I rode in was stock turbo yet.

Smith-02 04-02-2007 10:34 PM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 

Originally Posted by johnmichael
22r =2.2 liters displacement / 300 hp

136 hp per liter.

Would be like

B18C1 = 1.8 Liters X Same 136 Hp per liter= 244.8







stupid nigfuck this isn't honda toyota engine codes have nothing to do with displacement

ichbinsobose 04-02-2007 10:47 PM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 
i ahcvbve some thing to go dqith dispacling your mom

Smith-02 04-02-2007 10:53 PM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 

Originally Posted by Dr.Boost
I've seen a few crazy ass 22r's along with 20r's. There is a local shop that pumps out built Yota motors all day long. LCEngineering. I think their website is www.lcengineering.com

I love 22r's. :6

http://www.sdsefi.com/features/sept01toy.htm

This truck is owned by David Gysland from Rochester, Minnesota, USA and is used for import drag racing, so far running a best of 11.65 @ 122mph. The motor consists of a Toyota 22r, SDS EM3-4E, LC Engineering stage five head, camshaft is a custom grind by LC that is .510 lift, 264 duration. The intake is a custom sheetmetal made by Force Fuel Injection running a Ford 65mm throttle body and Accel 83lb injectors. The bottom end consists of the factory forged crank, Eagle rods and JE 8 to 1 compression pistons with total seal rings. Head is attached to the block via ARP head studs and in between resides a stock NAPA $20 dollar head gasket.

David fabbed the 304 stainless turbo manifold with 1 5/8 primaries and the 3" downpipe with the intercooler piping at 2.5" diameter. The Turbo is a Turbonetics 60-1 with a .81 AR and a P-trim wheel. Wastegate is a Turbonetics racegate and the blowoff valve is a Turbonetics Godzilla. Transmission is stock with a LC Engineering pro-metallic clutch. The rear end houses 4.30 gears. Dave has made over 50 passes on it since spring and has only had to change the spark plugs!

http://www.sdsefi.com/features/toy21.jpg

http://www.sdsefi.com/features/toy22.jpg
http://www.sdsefi.com/features/toy4.jpg



http://www.doaracingengines.com/page...s/page15_2.jpg

After tuning, Jeff's motor made 222 hp and 243 foot lbs. of torque at the rear wheels (@14 psi boost, on 91 octane pump gas).
http://www.doaracingengines.com/page...s/page15_6.jpg


UPDATE: After changing to a larger Garrett/Precision SC34R T3/T04E turbocharger, and retuning, Jeff's motor is now making 250 hp at the rear wheels and an impressive 279 ft, lbs. of torque @ 15 psi boost, again on 91 octane pump gas.


Smith-02 04-02-2007 10:55 PM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 
airflow increases torque on these motors

JDMFantasy2K 04-02-2007 11:14 PM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 

Originally Posted by johnmichael
22r =2.2 liters displacement / 300 hp

136 hp per liter.

Would be like

B18C1 = 1.8 Liters X Same 136 Hp per liter= 244.8






you realize that's been accomplished before right?

jinxy 04-02-2007 11:18 PM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 
22r(e)'s are gay

Dr.Boost 04-02-2007 11:21 PM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 

Originally Posted by rawr
22r(e)'s are gay

Well if you say so than I guess it's true. :1

That's the hot ----. :6 I remember a few years back I wanted to get a 2wd Yota and turn it into something like that, but Jeff told me to buy a real truck instead. :'(
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jinxy 04-02-2007 11:26 PM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 

Originally Posted by Dr.Boost
Well if you say so than I guess it's true. :1

They're gay because john spouts off random ---- about them all the time, tidbits and specs that no one knows except people who care about them, then proceeds to "tell you how it is" when you have no idea what the ---- he's talking about. Then you still have no idea what he's talking about, but he seems satisfied with telling you these random bits of information that hold no relevance to anyone but him. This is one of those threads.

buk9tp 04-02-2007 11:29 PM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 
gm 4300 > 22r

HondaTuner 04-02-2007 11:32 PM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 
Trends:

buk = omg gm 4.3
jon = omg 22r
kain = omg rx7

Smith-02 04-02-2007 11:38 PM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 

Originally Posted by SinisterCRX
Trends:

buk = omg gm 4.3
jon = omg 22r
kain = omg rx7

dan = omg 3800

HondaTuner 04-02-2007 11:39 PM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 

Originally Posted by c0mpl3x
dan = omg 3800

I've never made one thread about the 3800, talked about it a bit on here when people needed info but thats about it.... and all in all I'm not impressed with the engine.

USS 04-03-2007 12:08 AM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 
I like my 22re. It just needs some more power :(

Good thing they make plug and play harness adapters for Megasquirt. I think a Holset would suit it well.

Smith-02 04-03-2007 01:41 AM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 

Originally Posted by Snafubmx234
I like my 22re. It just needs some more power :(

Good thing they make plug and play harness adapters for Megasquirt. I think a Holset would suit it well.

id rather have a motor i know will make 400k, with enough power for DD, than have something that needs rebuild every time its due for a new air filter

.Sam. 04-03-2007 02:14 AM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 

Originally Posted by johnmichael
22r =2.2 liters displacement






a 22r is a 2.4 litre there for throw ur numbers out the window

N1ghtM0nkey 04-03-2007 08:37 AM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 

Originally Posted by c0mpl3x
not exactly true.

i've personally seen near 300hp n/a 22r's on dirt oval.

thats like a b18b1 making 430hp n/a. not possible
going all season at near redline rpm's and not rebuilding, 22r > honda

Nobody ------- cares.

300hp n/a on 2.4L is like 125hp per liter.

430hp n/a on 1.8L is like 238hp per liter.

Not only does nobody care, you're ------- stupid. 22r motors and trucks in general suck ass for going fast. Get over yourself, your motor ------- sucks just as bad as you do. My great grandma's Sunfire is cooler than your truck, and probably faster too.

Tom-Guy 04-03-2007 09:18 AM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 
22R's are great when stock, the couple I've seen built like to ---- rod bearings if you sustain 4K+ rpms for any length of time. That might have been a reflection on the builder, but he seemed like a smart guy.


Originally Posted by Jorsher
Goddamn, that's some long lasting engine. I often wonder how long a well maintained honda would last, but they usually get beat on, wrecked, or soon turbocharged...

I'm pushing 300K on my D15B7. Maybe I should change the oil?


jinxy 04-03-2007 10:15 AM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
22R's are great when stock, the couple I've seen built like to ---- rod bearings if you sustain 4K+ rpms for any length of time. That might have been a reflection on the builder, but he seemed like a smart guy.

I'm pushing 300K on my D15B7. Maybe I should change the oil?


It changes its self when it burns and you put more in.

mike94se 04-03-2007 10:29 AM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 

Originally Posted by N1ghtM0nkey
Nobody ------- cares.

300hp n/a on 2.4L is like 125hp per liter.

430hp n/a on 1.8L is like 238hp per liter.

Not only does nobody care, you're ------- stupid. 22r motors and trucks in general suck ass for going fast. Get over yourself, your motor ------- sucks just as bad as you do. My great grandma's Sunfire is cooler than your truck, and probably faster too.

Neck injuries came back?

Smith-02 04-03-2007 12:26 PM

Re: a little window into how toyota 22r's make 400k miles on the clock:
 
im kinda starting to like the 'omg high revving car engine vs omg torque truck engine' debate starting up once again.

closed deck vs open deck, rs ratios, 8v vs 16v, sohc vs dohc, applications are nowhere near the same.
stock power vs stock power, itll rival a d14 or a d15 if it was fresh, but hauling around a 3400lb truck with 300lbs of tires on it and aerodynamics similar to a cement block, it does it's job fairly well.

who the ---- i said i wanted to go fast? noone.

hp per liter was never a stable arguement with honda.

hp vs stock hp was what i used. merely 3x. 3x the stress it was designed for.


Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
22R's are great when stock, the couple I've seen built like to ---- rod bearings if you sustain 4K+ rpms for any length of time. That might have been a reflection on the builder, but he seemed like a smart guy.

JD i've never heard the rod bearing issue before, maybe i missed something?

i could care less if i make 400hp. im building a ------- turbo kit for a carbureted truck engine because i can, and want to benefit the masses with the trial and error methods going to take place.


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