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in light of the i got my ass whooped by a bunch of spanish thugs thread went on tv to tell everyone that it was due to street racing, and now the mexican mob is after me, it made me think. I've been thinking about getting my concealed weapons permit. I do live in gun happy fl. How about everyone else??

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Got mine :)

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Got mine. Get yours DA. Even if you don't own a pistol you should have it.

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got mine, carry everyday.

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Most wussies who carry wouldnt have the balls to do anything with a gun if a situation arose where they needed to use it.

Stay out of those situations and you dont need to worry about it...plain and simple.

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::)
Right and the guy that started stabbing a guy on a greyhoud bus did it cause the bus drove through the wrong part of the hood?

That's about the biggest line of bullshit I've ever read from you, I hope you're jsut trying to get a rise out of Johnny.

Your right though guns are useless so we should just ban them all.

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Impossible to get in CA, but who cares.

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There are things in life that are completely out of control. No gun is going to put control in that situation...in fact, it will incite even more chaos in most.

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Yes, BAN all firearms!!! Its working soo good here in Canada ::)

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wait.. whats wrong with canada?

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i would but i live in one of the 2 states that doesnt have any form of concealed carry, ------- sucks. ---- liberals

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make it easy, move to Canada...

or deal with the ----. and i highly doubt that it is an actually true "mexican" mob. after all, what these days is a true mexican anymore?

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Most everything is completely out of control. I have seen guns bring order.

Have you ever been around someone who pulled a gun, or fired one, constructively? I have, three times. The only reason I don't own a gun is because of my temper, and that reflects on me not on guns and their uses.

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Elaborate on constructively...

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Permit doesnt matter in NC. If an officer walks up to you, and you inform them you have a weapon on you, your fine. Its when you dont tell them and they find it that you get in trouble.

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"Say what again. Say what again, ----------er, say what one more Goddamn time!" -Jules

Now that would have been a constructive use, but he ended up shooting anyways. Still constructive to some I guess.

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was getting one when i lived in vegas, but now i'm back in san diego and ca says no guns.
however if you are a bounty hunter you can carry a gun 24/7. you only need to bring in a few bail jumpers a year to keep your status so i'm thinking about doing that.

i'm not sure if the info is still correct, it was 4 years ago when i checked on it.

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ive got mine. definatley makes you feel slightly safer when around shady characters.

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I'm just curious WHY you feel safer though...I wouldn't, I'd feel either more responsible or more like a target.

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Anyone remotely keep up with politics? it's soon to be the wild west once again. guns don't kill people. people kill people.

I do however gotta agree with chris though....the SMARTEST way to handle a given situation is to stay the ---- out of the situation.

yes i believe in self defense. but by owning a gun in a way precipitates the fact you'll need to use it. often if the option isnt available, you'll choose to make better decisions under pressure in a given hostile situation.
Even if you personaly don't value your own life, there is a high probability that someone else does, If you drop the im a hardass mentality and realisticly think about "what material possesion do i own that is worth dying over?" most rational individuals come to the same or similar answer.

To top that, 90% of you people that claim all the baddass ---- they would do if they had a gun and somebody messed with them.....
has never put a bullet in somebody's face or had brain matter splattered all over them. much less been in a situation that your life was TRUELY threatened and
could not be resolved by any other means.

Do I think people should own guns? yes of course. it's america and people should be free to make their own choice.
do i think guns are the end all answer to any chaos or situation? No. perhaps some situations but those are few and far far between.
just my two cents

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Well put...

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i agree with this stay out of those situations.....but with that beening said i do carry.....my job kind of puts me in those situations....installing cable tv in the ghetto...and i an truthfully say i might not have the balls to use it, but most of the times just showing it does the job....other then when i'm working i leave it at home....i don't need to go to the store......it makes my wife feel better that i have it when i'm working

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My old man was walking down the road with my at the time toddler nephew, my mother, and sister. A pittbull came out of nowhere and started to charge them. He told everyone to back up and popped off a couple at the dog. Unfortunatly he missed and the dog got away safely but he did succeed on detering the dog. This dog eventually was documented mauling other local dogs much larger than it and attacking many people. It had to be put down once it was all said and done.

How does that make anyone a target?

How the ---- could he have just simply avoided that situation, stay locked inside his house and not go outside? You never know when fucked up situations are going to occur.

How did it make more chaos out of a surprise incident?

How the ---- can people make comments claiming they know how that Joe citizen is a wuss and wrong about how Joe citizen will react when confronted, but they instead know?

Most people I know that carry guns won't carry them if they slacked off going to the range and ensuring they are %110 comfortable with the gun. That is the way it should be, of course some old ---- that never squeezed off a round it not going to react well if confronted and happens to have a gun in his pocket.

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What ghetto? York or Harrisburg? I know your not talking about Hanover. ;D

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Only criminals have guns. So if you walk into a bank with a gun and want to rob it, you get to, none of the tellers, security or customers can have guns on them, which means the criminals of course get to call the shots.

Canadas logic is this: If we require registration for longarms, and make harsh restrictions or straight out prohibit side arms, EVERYONE will comply and no one will use a gun in a criminal situation because it would have to be registered, and you can't get the permit without a clean criminal record...

Here is the problem though, criminals, don't care about the law, that is what in fact, makes them criminals.

So they take the firearms away from the law abiding citizens, and only the criminals are left with the guns.

Liberals... :S

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Agreed...I'm not arguing that.

He missed the dog, what if it would have hit someone else or one of the family members he was with. Like you said, ---- happens.

A taser, mace or any of the million other deterants they sell on the market these days would have neutralized that situation and not put everyone else that was in the vicinity of him firing that weapon in risk.

No one is claiming they know anything, people are hypothesizing and drawing upon their own experiences.

Most people cant drive a ------- car...but they should be allowed to carry, concealed even?

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always carry openly or concealed whichever.

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Law of averages. 99% of people in a hostile situation requiring the use of a firearm happens to be their FIRST experience in doing so.

A *TRUE* autonomic Adrenaline spike is a funny thing that triggers funny thinking that CANNOT be accurately be simulated in training.

to put it plainly, people do stupid ---- when they are scared. irrational situations trigger irrational thinking by otherwise rational people.

When I say keep yourself out of the situation, i am more aiming towards the individuals that see carrying a gun as a way of intimidating or
gaining "respect" or as a means to make up for lack of their own self confidence. showing off to their buddies "yo homie look at dis piece"

If you carry it. you better be ready willing and able to use it without hesitation. Also to deal with any and all consequences associated with it.

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i along with lots of other people have used this arguement before, youd be amazed at how many anti-gun people will skirt that point. i remember a thread from HT GDD where people just completley ignored that fact.

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I wonder what the statistics are in various states that have varied gun laws for:

Accidental Gun Deaths vs. Crimes with guns used.

I would assume that Crime is lower in Texas because everyone carries, but I would also assume that accidental gun deaths are higher.

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look it up.

gun deaths of all types are highest in places where gun control is the strictest.

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i dont really know, i guess knowing if in fact a situation arises i can protect myself/others. trust me i dont pretend to be a tough guy and i avoid confrontations at all expenses but i would say if i had to i would pull the trigger because i know if i was in a situation where i needed to, it would be my only option.

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I'm giving you a chance to school me...i wouldnt even begin to know where to look it up.

Wikipedia?

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nah only in hanover a few times a month...talking about york and it's not the worst ghetto i've been in....but when people don't have money they do fucked up things :D...never carried in hanover....forgot your out there we need to get together for some drinks.......still not boosted yet but might be getting a k20 eg if dude comes through

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its probably true but the catch is that the strictest gun laws are in the most dangerous areas.

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yea, but it proves that laws are meaningless to criminals.

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I've got mine, because it's my god damned right. That's why. All of the things people who've never shot a gun before talk about are addressed in the class. Really, I only take mine when I have my family in public or when I'm in a bad area (rarely). The truth is, I understand I need to take an ass whipping before shooting someone, until my health is REALLY in question. Other than that, I have a "look at a member of my family wrong and I'll put you on blast" policy, which basically relieves them from any simple ass whipping they might have otherwise incurred.
Carrying a gun is usually done by those with a general interest in shooting. I can't see many people who don't generally like to shoot (a.k.a. they know how to use it) getting a carry permit. Pussies and utopians don't have to carry guns if they don't want, but just remember who has the ability to save your ass next time that freak boy starts shooting up the mall.

The REAL statistic anyone should be looking up is how many ccw holders have committed illegal discharges (hitting someone or not). Look that one up and get back to me. Slim/none.

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I think most people who carry LEGALLY can rationalize and know the difference between a situation where they should OR shouldn't pull the weapon they are carrying.

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thats the truth, look up the death rates in oakland.

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ever heard of ms13? not a "mob", but crazy ------- Mexican gang none the less