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J-SMITH69 04-23-2004 02:11 AM

Leeeets get it onnn (PICS) (updated x3)
 
Since i spun a bearing in my old motor (b18a1 w/ b20b head and intake manifold) i decided on buying a jap b20b. buuuut they didnt have any at their warehouse and they were $995... So i said ---- it and bought a jap b18b for $845. i Dont know if that is a decent price, i dont really give a ---- i just needed the motor asap, and if i'm gunna force air into it, it doesnt really matter anyways right... I pop'd the valve cover and the engine looks mint inside... so i didnt get a fake low miles motor... hopefully. but a comp check will clear all that up...

There she is... it came off a auto integra so i took the flex plate off and put my flywheel on... also took the injectors out and put my b18a injectors in (for short time, have 450cc injectors comin in the mail). Also put on my b18a throttlebody. Also have to take off the crank pully and timing belt covers to put my motor mount on... annnnd also have to use my b18a dist...annnnd gotta use my b18a exhaust manifold if i want it to bolt to the exhaust... i think the b18a anmd b18b exhaust is the same pattern... gotta check that out ;)
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss/int_new1.jpg

heres the emtpy engine bay, decently clean for a 91 integra with 230k miles on the chassis...
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss/int_new2.jpg

Heres a lot of my old ----, no real use for most of it. gunna hit the scrapyard soon... unless some people need some ----... like a fucked up crankshaft, or a block with a bunch of peices of bearing in all the passages. the pistons and rods might be ok... the b20b head and intake are fine...
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss/int_new3.jpg

also one of my baseball buddies is an idiot and all of a sudden says my subs sound like ----. so he gives me his amp for 50 bones, and gives his two kenwood 10s to another guy, and that guy gives me these two subs... sounds pretty good. its def an upgrade from my 220 watt jenson amp & single 10 explode i had before...
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss/int_new4.jpg

annnndd for all those people out there who say a b20b head and intake manifold isnt an upgrade over a b18a & maybe a b18b head & intake... and that the b20b head has small ports. here is a pic of my b20b head and intake manifold. the ports look pretty big to me...
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss/int_new5.jpg

annnnnnd i also bought a rebuilt super 60 turbo & 10psi internal wastegate $420, some dsm 450cc injectors $60, a 250ft-lb clutch from 88 turbo crx $240, a aluminum core radiator $140, tranny cooler to be used as an oil cooler $40, and i also have some stuff left over from before. like my JRC 6' intercooler, and a probe bov... also goin to use TE with dave's help ;) ohh and i believe beau is goin to make me a manifold to replace my 1st gen beau beta .1 ram head (aka block hugger) turbo manifold
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss...ntercooler.jpg
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss...ra_motor_T.jpg
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss/b_setup_2.jpg

Should be fun. lookin to make some decent numbers for a stock engine... remember what we aways say.... DON'T... GET.... ELIMINATED!



Reddy 04-23-2004 02:13 AM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 
Whats the compression on that jdm block?

J-SMITH69 04-23-2004 02:15 AM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 
haven't check it yet. im goin to be gone all weekend on a road trip playin baseball... prob put it in sunday... and then i'll check

Spenser 04-23-2004 02:28 AM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 
Thats some cool as ---- right there, Super 60 will make mad power!!!

Turbo90Accord4DR 04-23-2004 02:30 AM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 
shoulda got the b20.. more torq!! lol..


have fun. i hate swaps in pre 93 tegs and crrx's and ----.

J-SMITH69 04-23-2004 02:31 AM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by Turbo90Accord4DR
shoulda got the b20.. more torq!! lol..


have fun. i hate swaps in pre 93 tegs and crrx's and ----.

i hate it already, all i did was look at the motor and then look at my engine bay... its a pain in the ass to have to take off the crank pully and timing covers to change to my b18a mounts.

racerex 04-23-2004 03:06 AM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 
Holy ----, your old motor is exactly what I am building right now. I wanted to build a motor for dirt cheap, so I picked up a b18a shortblock (although the junkyard left pretty much everything on there) for $150 and then I got a b20b head w/ls intake and tb for $130.

How did you like the motor? I figure it'll basically be an ls motor for under $500 with way low miles on the head.

projekteg 04-23-2004 05:20 AM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 
hahaha, dejavou, i did the exact same swap in my 93 teg, it was black too, my pics look exactly like yours (i would post them but don't want to jack your thread), that's funny, i mean the same exact pics ;D you'll notice a nice difference with the b18b, i sure did, it revs a lot quicker, i'm assuming due to the i.m. and cams, but it was nice to go to a low mileage b18b from a worn out b18a. looks good ;D i thought i thought switching the driver side mount was easy, but i left the ribbed crank pulley on and used it with my v belt, worked fine HMT style ;) :-X

J-SMITH69 04-23-2004 12:56 PM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by projekteg
hahaha, dejavou, i did the exact same swap in my 93 teg, it was black too, my pics look exactly like yours (i would post them but don't want to jack your thread), that's funny, i mean the same exact pics ;D you'll notice a nice difference with the b18b, i sure did, it revs a lot quicker, i'm assuming due to the i.m. and cams, but it was nice to go to a low mileage b18b from a worn out b18a. looks good ;D i thought i thought switching the driver side mount was easy, but i left the ribbed crank pulley on and used it with my v belt, worked fine HMT style ;) :-X

i havent' switched the mounts yet on that side... what chu talkin bout... the b18a mount gets in the way of something?

projekteg 04-23-2004 01:00 PM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by random-strike

Originally Posted by projekteg
hahaha, dejavou, i did the exact same swap in my 93 teg, it was black too, my pics look exactly like yours (i would post them but don't want to jack your thread), that's funny, i mean the same exact pics ;D you'll notice a nice difference with the b18b, i sure did, it revs a lot quicker, i'm assuming due to the i.m. and cams, but it was nice to go to a low mileage b18b from a worn out b18a. looks good ;D i thought i thought switching the driver side mount was easy, but i left the ribbed crank pulley on and used it with my v belt, worked fine HMT style ;) :-X

i havent' switched the mounts yet on that side... what chu talkin bout... the b18a mount gets in the way of something?

look at the mounts on the driver side closer, the b18b has a different off set than the b18a (just the part that is bolted to the engine), just use the one off the b18a and swap it on to the b18b. i have pics, i'll email them to you since newbieforces is down.

HMT-Admin 04-23-2004 01:02 PM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 
fyi, its easier to leave the harness attached to the engine when taking it out, 5 plugs and the harness is off the chasis. ;)

good luck johnny

J-SMITH69 04-23-2004 01:09 PM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by projekteg

Originally Posted by random-strike

Originally Posted by projekteg
hahaha, dejavou, i did the exact same swap in my 93 teg, it was black too, my pics look exactly like yours (i would post them but don't want to jack your thread), that's funny, i mean the same exact pics ;D you'll notice a nice difference with the b18b, i sure did, it revs a lot quicker, i'm assuming due to the i.m. and cams, but it was nice to go to a low mileage b18b from a worn out b18a. looks good ;D i thought i thought switching the driver side mount was easy, but i left the ribbed crank pulley on and used it with my v belt, worked fine HMT style ;) :-X

i havent' switched the mounts yet on that side... what chu talkin bout... the b18a mount gets in the way of something?

look at the mounts on the driver side closer, the b18b has a different off set than the b18a (just the part that is bolted to the engine), just use the one off the b18a and swap it on to the b18b. i have pics, i'll email them to you since newbieforces is down.

thats what i saw, and i was gunna do that... but i thought in your other post that you said something about well i dunno what the heck you're tlakin about about here is the qoute


but i left the ribbed crank pulley on and used it with my v belt, worked fine HMT style

J-SMITH69 04-23-2004 01:11 PM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by AbaZ
fyi, its easier to leave the harness attached to the engine when taking it out, 5 plugs and the harness is off the chasis. ;)

good luck johnny

i left it in there...

i just use all my existing b18a odb0 stuff and just switch dist and injectors.. right? ;)

i also switched the TB just because the b18b tb has the MAP on the TB and some other ghetto sensor i dont care about

HMT-Admin 04-23-2004 01:13 PM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 
Use the B18b throttle body its 2mm bigger, and the map sensors are the same, just in a different spot.


projekteg 04-23-2004 01:15 PM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 
yeah, either extend the wires from your firewall to the new map sensor, or run a ghetto vacuum line from the t.b. to the firewall, i suggest making the wire longer, that way you have one less chance for a vacuum leak.

HMT-Admin 04-23-2004 01:22 PM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 
The wires are long enough ::)

projekteg 04-23-2004 01:25 PM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by AbaZ
The wires are long enough ::)

sorry sir

OnYx 04-23-2004 01:25 PM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by AbaZ
The wires are long enough ::)


J-SMITH69 04-23-2004 01:25 PM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by AbaZ
Use the B18b throttle body its 2mm bigger, and the map sensors are the same, just in a different spot.


ok... thanks

J-SMITH69 04-23-2004 01:26 PM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by projekteg

Originally Posted by AbaZ
The wires are long enough ::)

sorry sir

what did you mean by the v belt crap


but i left the ribbed crank pulley on and used it with my v belt, worked fine HMT style

OnYx 04-23-2004 01:29 PM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by random-strike

Originally Posted by projekteg

Originally Posted by AbaZ
The wires are long enough ::)

sorry sir

what did you mean by the v belt crap


but i left the ribbed crank pulley on and used it with my v belt, worked fine HMT style

just make sure you get the belts for the alt. pully setup all on one engine IE either go with B18a1 ot B18b crank and pully setup and youll be fine but youll need to order the year belt that you use.

projekteg 04-23-2004 01:30 PM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 
if you notice the pulleys on the b18a are a 'v' shape, the ones on the b18b (the one i had anyways) were a ribbed style, therefore require a different kind of belt than what's on the b18a. this is why you have to use the crank pulley off the b18a. or you can just mismatch and have a ribbed style crank pulley with a v style belt and other pulleys (the rib belt is too wide for 'v' pulleys). i suggest changing it though, the only reason i didn't was because i didn't even notice until after the engine was in (too much beer).

warren_teg 04-23-2004 01:31 PM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 
Hey sorry to tell you this but that company gave you an USDM version B18B. J-Spec B18B don't have honda motor co. They say plain HONDA MOTOR....... NO JSPEC MOTOR HAS CO. maybe i'm wrong and the person who tough me this is an ediot. Please correct me if i'm wrong. Hey nice setup thought.. thats gonna be a sick setup when your done. i pretty much had the same thing. b18b boosted.

J-SMITH69 04-23-2004 01:33 PM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by projekteg
if you notice the pulleys on the b18a are a 'v' shape, the ones on the b18b (the one i had anyways) were a ribbed style, therefore require a different kind of belt than what's on the b18a. this is why you have to use the crank pulley off the b18a. or you can just mismatch and have a ribbed style crank pulley with a v style belt and other pulleys (the rib belt is too wide for 'v' pulleys). i suggest changing it though, the only reason i didn't was because i didn't even notice until after the engine was in (too much beer).

oh i see what you're talkin about now, thanks projekteg and wyatt. i gotta take the crank pulley off anyways to change the mount.. so i'll just put the b18a one back on... thanks :)

J-SMITH69 04-23-2004 01:34 PM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by warren_teg
Hey sorry to tell you this but that company gave you an USDM version B18B. J-Spec B18B don't have honda motor co. They say plain HONDA MOTOR....... NO JSPEC MOTOR HAS CO. maybe i'm wrong and the person who tough me this is an ediot. Please correct me if i'm wrong. Hey nice setup thought.. thats gonna be a sick setup when your done. i pretty much had the same thing. b18b boosted.

you may be right... but i doubt it because this motor has japanese writing all over it... also the b20b jeff got supposdly from japan has honda motor co on it too

Spenser 04-23-2004 01:41 PM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by random-strike

Originally Posted by warren_teg
Hey sorry to tell you this but that company gave you an USDM version B18B. J-Spec B18B don't have honda motor co. They say plain HONDA MOTOR....... NO JSPEC MOTOR HAS CO. maybe i'm wrong and the person who tough me this is an ediot. Please correct me if i'm wrong. Hey nice setup thought.. thats gonna be a sick setup when your done. i pretty much had the same thing. b18b boosted.

you may be right... but i doubt it because this motor has japanese writing all over it... also the b20b jeff got supposdly from japan has honda motor co on it too

My Zc says "Honda motor Co". on it.

projekteg 04-23-2004 01:45 PM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 
and my usdm doesn't say 'motor co' on it. i don't think theres any rule behing the valve cover myths, i think they just put whatever the ---- the felt like putting on that particular one

HMT-Admin 04-23-2004 01:56 PM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by warren_teg
Hey sorry to tell you this but that company gave you an USDM version B18B. J-Spec B18B don't have honda motor co. They say plain HONDA MOTOR

Wrong ::)

warren_teg 04-23-2004 02:54 PM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 
K... i can't beleive i was going around telling other people that. lol... i must of sounded retarded to others who knew. o well. :P :)..

LSD Motorsports 04-23-2004 04:56 PM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 
haha nice try warren, your looking good there johnny, Enjoy the clutch man, should be getting to you shortly

projekteg 04-23-2004 05:13 PM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by 88 Turbo Crx
haha nice try warren, your looking good there johnny, Enjoy the clutch man, should be getting to you shortly

i'll be neading one shortly ;D

LSD Motorsports 04-23-2004 09:50 PM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by projekteg

Originally Posted by 88 Turbo Crx

i'll be neading one shortly ;D

I got you covered kevin!

J-SMITH69 04-25-2004 02:49 AM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by AbaZ
The wires are long enough ::)

got a Q for the creator...

my b18a block has a sensor on the back of the block... by the oil pressure sensor... and on the b18b block there is just a big plug there. whats the deal with that...

projekteg 04-25-2004 02:57 AM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by random-strike

Originally Posted by AbaZ
The wires are long enough ::)

got a Q for the creator...

my b18a block has a sensor on the back of the block... by the oil pressure sensor... and on the b18b block there is just a big plug there. whats the deal with that...

take the plug out of the b18b and take the fitting/sensor out of the b18a and screw it right in ;) i don't know what the ---- that sensor is, but i ran in to that also and just gave it a try and they are the exact same size, and no cel's, so, it's all good :-*

J-SMITH69 04-25-2004 03:09 AM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by projekteg

Originally Posted by random-strike

Originally Posted by AbaZ
The wires are long enough ::)


thanks playa :)

got a Q for the creator...

my b18a block has a sensor on the back of the block... by the oil pressure sensor... and on the b18b block there is just a big plug there. whats the deal with that...

take the plug out of the b18b and take the fitting/sensor out of the b18a and screw it right in ;) i don't know what the ---- that sensor is, but i ran in to that also and just gave it a try and they are the exact same size, and no cel's, so, it's all good :-*


i dun have any sockets big enough for that biotch... gunna have to try and use a monkey wrnech i guess lmao

projekteg 04-25-2004 03:11 AM

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lol, i think i used a big set of vice grips ;D

Dr.Boost 04-25-2004 02:38 PM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 
Knock sensor or radiator fan thermo switch?
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HMT-Admin 04-25-2004 02:47 PM

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As already discussed johnny, That is the Fan switch on the back of the OBD0 B18a block. The OBD1/2 B18b blocks dont have it there, But the plug/spot is there. If you dont have a socket to take that ---- off, the obd1/2 uses the fan switch right off the radiator hosing (off the back) its a 2 pin brown plug. You just need to extend the wires from the back of the block to that sensor (and find a connector that will go on) the wires can be either way, so no big deal.

and btw B18a/b's & B20's dont have knock sensors.

Jeff



J-SMITH69 04-25-2004 03:34 PM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by AbaZ
As already discussed johnny, That is the Fan switch on the back of the OBD0 B18a block. The OBD1/2 B18b blocks dont have it there, But the plug/spot is there. If you dont have a socket to take that ---- off, the obd1/2 uses the fan switch right off the radiator hosing (off the back) its a 2 pin brown plug. You just need to extend the wires from the back of the block to that sensor (and find a connector that will go on) the wires can be either way, so no big deal.

and btw B18a/b's & B20's dont have knock sensors.

Jeff

ahh thanks jeff, i was wonderin why those werent used on the radiator... i think i'll just switch the plugs like projkteg did that would be easier i think. i dont really want to cut and solder and extent wires :/

projekteg 04-25-2004 04:16 PM

Re:Leeeets get it onnn (PICS)
 

Originally Posted by AbaZ
That is the Fan switch on the back of the OBD0 B18a block.

learn something new every day.


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