Investing
03-03-2008, 07:07 PM
#21
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Re: Investing
shoulda ploped down on google stock when it was sub 160 a share like me. 
(bought 15 shares @ 144, and another 3 shares @ 362.) Im up what like almost 5k right now
woot for me 
and with google expected to top $600 by next year... im riding the wave till the bicth crashes two years in a row.
shiiiiat if it ever hits 700 it'll pay the loan off instantly for the 15 acers i bought
and listen to QikEnuF, the market will be going up. Democrats have the senate, and the house.
All politices aside... Republican ideals (economic libertarianism,grossly over conservative economics)m even before the republican party split itself has always brought about downfall in an economy. Where the reverse is true for the democrats... Most likely, even if JM wins the presidency race, the overbalance in congress should be enough to keep a recession at bay. (and cite a big economic swing upwards afew years down the road if the half black wins.) That's just how t historically works. All the ups and downs, sorry... It's black an white, check the books.
Back on subject. Quik is all over it. If you've got money to spend and you wanna do the market, now is a perfect time to find yourself something that'll *shoud* return 4-6 years down the line... Let's face it, too much too late if you wait another 3-4 years thinking about it!
(bought 15 shares @ 144, and another 3 shares @ 362.) Im up what like almost 5k right now woot for me and with google expected to top $600 by next year... im riding the wave till the bicth crashes two years in a row.
shiiiiat if it ever hits 700 it'll pay the loan off instantly for the 15 acers i bought
and listen to QikEnuF, the market will be going up. Democrats have the senate, and the house.
All politices aside... Republican ideals (economic libertarianism,grossly over conservative economics)m even before the republican party split itself has always brought about downfall in an economy. Where the reverse is true for the democrats... Most likely, even if JM wins the presidency race, the overbalance in congress should be enough to keep a recession at bay. (and cite a big economic swing upwards afew years down the road if the half black wins.) That's just how t historically works. All the ups and downs, sorry... It's black an white, check the books.
Back on subject. Quik is all over it. If you've got money to spend and you wanna do the market, now is a perfect time to find yourself something that'll *shoud* return 4-6 years down the line... Let's face it, too much too late if you wait another 3-4 years thinking about it!
03-03-2008, 11:52 PM
#23
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Re: Investing
Originally Posted by evosol
You and I are not Buffet, they are involved in derivatives that us normal humans don't understand. Hes got his team of researchers plus hes got the money. You and I have jack-----.
and who said the market has hit bottom. Only about 6 months after a recession do we have enough information from economic indicators that we where actually IN a recession.
My guess is we still have about another 10 months before things start clear up. If you subscribe to bloomers or wallstreet journal, them ----------ers are reporting new write-downs every ------- day... billions upon billions... credit crunch, subprime mortgages, and leveraged buyouts. its all fucked...
theres also a liquidity problem going on in our economy. Banks are so strapped they don't even want to loan to other banks because they don't know how much REAL ---- they're in yet.
So if you think you are Buffet... be my guest. Please report back with your gains..... :P
and who said the market has hit bottom. Only about 6 months after a recession do we have enough information from economic indicators that we where actually IN a recession.
My guess is we still have about another 10 months before things start clear up. If you subscribe to bloomers or wallstreet journal, them ----------ers are reporting new write-downs every ------- day... billions upon billions... credit crunch, subprime mortgages, and leveraged buyouts. its all fucked...
theres also a liquidity problem going on in our economy. Banks are so strapped they don't even want to loan to other banks because they don't know how much REAL ---- they're in yet.
So if you think you are Buffet... be my guest. Please report back with your gains..... :P
Back on subject, $500 might not be a lot to make any kind of big profit unless some penny medical stock somehow finds the cure for cancer and gets FDA approval, but you can still turn a reasonable profit if you are patient and do some research first. Couple bits of advice would be pick something in an emerging field, nanotech for example is my big thing right now with my minimal savings. Figure out what kind of research/developements/trials the companies in that field have to give you an idea of what kind of potential they have as a business. Check out financial reports, recent acquisitions by the company, and all sorts of other financial documents like budget/expense reports that I am too lazy to list by name. Then you take a look at the stock itself. Hopefully there are some you can afford in a block of lets say 20/50/100 shares, because that makes it a bit easier to keep track of, but thats just me. Look at past performance in the long term and the short term, look at what major firms are buying into them, check out the Price/Earning mark, all the ---- you can find online with a simple search or more detailed search of investment company portfolios. Then make a decision on something that looks like a winner and cross your fingers and pray you get the next Google.
Or if you have enough scratch, BKB (Berkshire Hathaway B) is a firm investment that will get returns, just not as volatile or cheap as some other alternatives (shameless plug for Buffet over). But that is a lot of scratch that $500 won't come close to. All in all, it is all about research, and not the kind you can find in something put out by the media, because they are in it for the money as well. ---- the Wall Street Journal
03-04-2008, 03:39 AM
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Re: Investing
Originally Posted by QikEnuF
Please stop talking. Seriously you don't understand ---- all about the economy. You get all your little bullshit ideas from ------- magazines and the WJ that are made to do one ------- thing, which is to sell goddamn subscriptions.
Back on subject, $500 might not be a lot to make any kind of big profit unless some penny medical stock somehow finds the cure for cancer and gets FDA approval, but you can still turn a reasonable profit if you are patient and do some research first. Couple bits of advice would be pick something in an emerging field, nanotech for example is my big thing right now with my minimal savings. Figure out what kind of research/developements/trials the companies in that field have to give you an idea of what kind of potential they have as a business. Check out financial reports, recent acquisitions by the company, and all sorts of other financial documents like budget/expense reports that I am too lazy to list by name. Then you take a look at the stock itself. Hopefully there are some you can afford in a block of lets say 20/50/100 shares, because that makes it a bit easier to keep track of, but thats just me. Look at past performance in the long term and the short term, look at what major firms are buying into them, check out the Price/Earning mark, all the ---- you can find online with a simple search or more detailed search of investment company portfolios. Then make a decision on something that looks like a winner and cross your fingers and pray you get the next Google.
Or if you have enough scratch, BKB (Berkshire Hathaway B) is a firm investment that will get returns, just not as volatile or cheap as some other alternatives (shameless plug for Buffet over). But that is a lot of scratch that $500 won't come close to. All in all, it is all about research, and not the kind you can find in something put out by the media, because they are in it for the money as well. ---- the Wall Street Journal
Back on subject, $500 might not be a lot to make any kind of big profit unless some penny medical stock somehow finds the cure for cancer and gets FDA approval, but you can still turn a reasonable profit if you are patient and do some research first. Couple bits of advice would be pick something in an emerging field, nanotech for example is my big thing right now with my minimal savings. Figure out what kind of research/developements/trials the companies in that field have to give you an idea of what kind of potential they have as a business. Check out financial reports, recent acquisitions by the company, and all sorts of other financial documents like budget/expense reports that I am too lazy to list by name. Then you take a look at the stock itself. Hopefully there are some you can afford in a block of lets say 20/50/100 shares, because that makes it a bit easier to keep track of, but thats just me. Look at past performance in the long term and the short term, look at what major firms are buying into them, check out the Price/Earning mark, all the ---- you can find online with a simple search or more detailed search of investment company portfolios. Then make a decision on something that looks like a winner and cross your fingers and pray you get the next Google.
Or if you have enough scratch, BKB (Berkshire Hathaway B) is a firm investment that will get returns, just not as volatile or cheap as some other alternatives (shameless plug for Buffet over). But that is a lot of scratch that $500 won't come close to. All in all, it is all about research, and not the kind you can find in something put out by the media, because they are in it for the money as well. ---- the Wall Street Journal
I know exactly what approach you are taking... and unless you have taken some formal education in long term capital budgeting... you don't know what the ---- your talking about.
See, i'm a Double major, Finance and Operations management w/ a minor in Economics. So I think its fair to say that I know a thing or two about the inter-minglings of the current economy and the money markets.
See... i could ramble on and on for days about case studies ive done, theories on diversification and asset classes... but since we both know that in the investment world (and most everything else in this world) knowledge is power, and since you already know it all... i won't waste my time. :P
03-04-2008, 09:11 AM
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Re: Investing
Have you actually done your own research into stocks? Or just read papers by other people and put those into your little school papers? Unlike a lot of people, I am still making money in the market, what first hand experience do you have with the stock market outside of class? Formal education in a college? Haha, yeah sure. You studied all sorts of theories but you never put them into practice with your own money. Get off your high horse. Incidentally, it appears we have the same type of school setup in terms of majors/minor, except I'm going for a leadership minor.
03-04-2008, 01:23 PM
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Re: Investing
So you are also a finance major and you are telling me that public information doesn't move markets?? Exactly like I said before, you are an unsophiticated investor, a hackjob at best.
You are right about one thing though... I have NOT had any experience investing with my own money.
But ive had experience investing with other people's money. Last year 5 other students and I put together a portfolio for the biz dept's investment club that averaged nearly 18% the first half and 13% the second half. This year that same portfolio has stayed untouched and its still 9-10%.
I ain't claiming that i'm tha ----, cause i'm huble like that, but i know when to call BullSHIT when i see it. Anyway... i'm sure people can see that...
anyway... its time to take my high horse to class. later.
You are right about one thing though... I have NOT had any experience investing with my own money.
But ive had experience investing with other people's money. Last year 5 other students and I put together a portfolio for the biz dept's investment club that averaged nearly 18% the first half and 13% the second half. This year that same portfolio has stayed untouched and its still 9-10%.
I ain't claiming that i'm tha ----, cause i'm huble like that, but i know when to call BullSHIT when i see it. Anyway... i'm sure people can see that...
anyway... its time to take my high horse to class. later.
03-04-2008, 08:09 PM
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Re: Investing
I bought into a REIT the other day, that had reported solid earnings for the last 7 years. My idea was since all these jokers are being booted out of their sub-prime financed homes they will have to rent, which means the REIT should be able to increase it's earnings. It's just a speculation but I'm going to wait it out and see.
03-04-2008, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by xpert787
I bought into a REIT the other day, that had reported solid earnings for the last 7 years. My idea was since all these jokers are being booted out of their sub-prime financed homes they will have to rent, which means the REIT should be able to increase it's earnings. It's just a speculation but I'm going to wait it out and see.
03-05-2008, 03:16 AM
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Re: Investing
QikEnuF > evosol
- QikEnuF brought out Berkshire Hathaway first and we all know Warren Buffett owns the world economy
- QikEnuF's name is like 2000 times cooler than anything with evo in the name
- QikEnuF's sig has vouchers from people im fairly sure exist
- QikEnuF passed his high school economic's class, and knows how to google; which instantly means he knows more about anything than anyone
- QikEnuF doesn't start multiple paragraphs the same way. which we all know is the mark of the african americanOriginally Posted by evosolSee, i'm...
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