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CRXMatt 01-13-2005 03:26 PM

I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 
Any of you guys do your own paintjobs? I wanna see some pics. I'm considering painting my crx.. it can't be that hard and I have a gun and air compressor. Hellu money saver.

juli0_bustamante 01-13-2005 03:45 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 
go do a search of my car you will see the fury of the rattle can duplicolor ;D

rexracer 01-13-2005 04:06 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 
Its a lot harder than you think. A gun and compressor isn't enough. You need at the very least a filter so you don't get moisture going into the gun. You need to make sure there won't be any dust (thats why paintbooths exist), you need to know how to mix the paint with the proper amount of thinner, etc. You need to wipe down the car with some chemical, forget what its called. For how much you are going to pay for the supplies, just go to Macco. Theres will come out much better than yours.

fsufan814 01-13-2005 04:07 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 

Originally Posted by kvh
Its a lot harder than you think. A gun and compressor isn't enough. You need at the very least a filter so you don't get moisture going into the gun. You need to make sure there won't be any dust (thats why paintbooths exist), you need to know how to mix the paint with the proper amount of thinner, etc. You need to wipe down the car with some chemical, forget what its called. For how much you are going to pay for the supplies, just go to Macco. Theres will come out much better than yours.

ive seen guys do base coat clear coat that wasnt as good as a maaco single stage with the right prep

CRXMatt 01-13-2005 04:27 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 

Originally Posted by kvh
Its a lot harder than you think. A gun and compressor isn't enough. You need at the very least a filter so you don't get moisture going into the gun. You need to make sure there won't be any dust (thats why paintbooths exist), you need to know how to mix the paint with the proper amount of thinner, etc. You need to wipe down the car with some chemical, forget what its called. For how much you are going to pay for the supplies, just go to Macco. Theres will come out much better than yours.

im looking to just do base coat clear coat.. nothing too fancy.. i might get ahold of maaco and get a quote

alfaaay 01-13-2005 04:43 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 
Do you want to get the whole care painted? Or small body pieces. If it's just small parts, you can get away with a rattle-can duplicolor job and some wet sanding. Scuff, Primer, Scuff, Paint, Clear, Wet Sand. I also DIY'd the stock side skirts and the wheels using the same process minus the wet sand. I wouldn't recommend it for bigger jobs, and my lip is actually pretty chipped up because I didn't put on thick enough coats. Here's a pic of the end result:

http://students.washington.edu/aptan/greenintegra3.jpg

Don't mind the grass, I'm too lazy to trim that ----.

CRXMatt 01-13-2005 04:48 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 
i'm wanting to do the whole damn car bro.. ur bumper wouldn't work for me.. that looks like ass w/ the chips

bmaca455 01-13-2005 04:52 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 

Originally Posted by CRXMatt
i'm wanting to do the whole damn car bro.. ur bumper wouldn't work for me.. that looks like ass w/ the chips

If you'r worried about it looking like ass, then you better be prepared to either shell out the bucks to have a pro do it or do it yourself a couple of times. I painted my car twice this summer and I'm still not happy with it so the plan is to try it a few more times next summer and see what I can come up with. Also a word of advice. Seeing as how this is your first time painting you might want to use acrylic enamal or something that isn't BC/CC (PPG Omni is pretty decent). BC/CC is a lot harder to do and if you have problems in the base coat there is no way to fix it without redoing the entire thing.

pheonixb16aguy 01-13-2005 04:58 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 
lol ohhh yea painting your car for the first time ... no experience .. i cant wait to see this ..\lol 100 bucks says runs in the clear like a mother fucker ..... ive painted 4 cars and alot of bodtkits ... you have alooooooooooooot of work ahead of you .. you need
sand paper
primer
harderner
paint
flex agent
clear \
and alot of prep all
and even more time !!! painting a whole car decent is ganna take at least a month if you start sanding right now

alfaaay 01-13-2005 05:02 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 

Originally Posted by CRXMatt
i'm wanting to do the whole damn car bro.. ur bumper wouldn't work for me.. that looks like ass w/ the chips

LoL ----, can't help you there then. I need my whole car re-painted to fix some other flaws too (like a hit and run). With paint jobs though, it seems like you really do get what you pay for. Doing it yourself means having a booth, compressor, the right gun, the right paint, and a whole lot of ------' patience. Another money saver would be just to get a Maaco job. I've seen some turn out really clean, but quality seems to vary from place to place

tranceminister 01-13-2005 05:25 PM

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[img width=550 height=425]http://img95.exs.cx/img95/2217/010100325xl.jpg[/img]

Painted my Ef right in my driveway about 2 years ago. The hood blew open on the highway and smashed up my front end so thats why I re painted it. I want to give it a respray because when I wetsanded the paint, I didn't have a fine enough grit sandpaper, so it's not as shiney as I wanted it to be, but it's good enough until this springtime. It's lasted this long, lol

CRXMatt 01-13-2005 05:26 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 

Originally Posted by pheonixb16aguy
lol ohhh yea painting your car for the first time ... no experience .. i cant wait to see this ..\lol 100 bucks says runs in the clear like a mother fucker ..... ive painted 4 cars and alot of bodtkits ... you have alooooooooooooot of work ahead of you .. you need
sand paper
primer
harderner
paint
flex agent
clear \
and alot of prep all
and even more time !!! painting a whole car decent is ganna take at least a month if you start sanding right now

i know how to paint a car.. and i just might take u up on that 100 dollar bet.. ;D

hurleyboarder21 01-13-2005 05:31 PM

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my friend just recently repainted his car... and he will tell u that it is not as easy as it seems. he might post up on here and let you know. anyway good luck, and buy enough paint to paint it again, cuz you are gonna have to.

Spenser 01-13-2005 05:53 PM

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as long as you build yourself a decent paintbooth, have larger size air compressor (you need a big one, not no ----- ----) a air dryer and filter, and a decent gun, all the rest is in the technique. you gotta be gangsta in your prep work aswell.

CRXMatt 01-13-2005 06:25 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 

Originally Posted by Spenser
as long as you build yourself a decent paintbooth, have larger size air compressor (you need a big one, not no ----- ----) a air dryer and filter, and a decent gun, all the rest is in the technique. you gotta be gangsta in your prep work aswell.

i got a big ass compressor and i new high dollar gun.. i'm gonna ghetto the sonuva bitch and win that 100 dollar bet ;)

tranceminister 01-13-2005 06:28 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 
Bah, you kids are full of nonsence. Just spray it outside. This little skeeters and boogers just add texture ;)

CRXMatt 01-13-2005 07:02 PM

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if i wanted texture i just wouldn't wet sand it..lol or spray it in my basement right after electric orbital sanding the sonuva bitch when all the dust is still in the air

rexracer 01-13-2005 07:15 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 
How many CFM's is your compressor at the proper PSI.

CRXMatt 01-13-2005 07:21 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 

Originally Posted by kvh
How many CFM's is your compressor at the proper PSI.

???

MikeJ-2009 01-13-2005 07:26 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 
I've definatly been thinking about painting my own car. I've been spraying/masking interior/exterior houses for a long time. I know it's slightly different, but I think that will give me enough confidence to get it done.
Here's a pretty in depth write-up that I found a while back:

http://www.thebugshop.org/bsfqpnt.htm

The only things that I am going to have to research a little more is the mixing techniques, which brand will be best, and the psi vs flow ideal for the gun. Other than that I think I'll be ok.

fsufan814 01-13-2005 07:30 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 

Originally Posted by CRXMatt
Any of you guys do your own paintjobs? I wanna see some pics. I'm considering painting my crx.. it can't be that hard and I have a gun and air compressor. Hellu money saver.

which means you dont know anything bc your asking right?

then the guy offers help and you say this


Quote from: CRXMatt on Today at 02:48:45pm
i'm wanting to do the whole damn car bro.. ur bumper wouldn't work for me.. that looks like ass w/ the chips
and then your like

i know how to paint a car.. and i just might take u up on that 100 dollar bet..
honestly, and not to be a dick or anything but you sound kinda like a punk that is askin for help and advice just to throw it back in the persons face

but maybe im reading to much into it

if i was you id do like a few guys above and just let maaco do it, it will probably come out better than anything you will be able to do on your own considering youve never sprayed a car before unless you just wanto have to resand it and respray over and over until it looks good and good luck with that


CRXMatt 01-13-2005 07:32 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 
i think i'm just asking for the proper technique man

tranceminister 01-13-2005 07:36 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 
Very true, doing it on your own with little to no experience and the improper/improvised tools, can lead to multiple problems. Sanding, prepwork, bagging and spraing is alot of work. It would suck to have to do it all twice. I work for a bodyshop and even there we run into problems occasionally with paints not laying right due to solvents etc., dripmarks, boogers, you name it. But at least there we've got the tools and guy's to fix the problem accordingly. It can turn into a real headache doing it at your house all by yourself.

fsufan814 01-13-2005 07:40 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 

Originally Posted by CRXMatt
i think i'm just asking for the proper technique man

the proper technique will be all in the prep work, how you sand it, with what you sand it bondo work, primer, sealer, etc

me personally i do all wet sanding, i start off with something coarse and work my way to finner grits so to make sure to get as much clear off as i can without going to deep and to get ever little inch that might get paint, you want it to stick not fluff off in 6months, this is why this is important, also to coarse and your sandin will show through so it can be important, personally i like to hand sand for quality assurance but you can use air tools on a disc if you wish, most body shops do anyhow, for bondo you will wanto bring it all the way down to metal, let it dry sand it smooth and then primer and sand smooth again

these are just a few tips i have, im sure there are many better and more knowledgeable but i think that should get you started thinking about it

oh FYI when i prepped mine for paint 3 weeks ago i started with 220wet 400wet and then 800wet

MikeJ-2009 01-13-2005 08:11 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 
That's the kind of info I could use. Who else wants to share techniques? :)

BoosTedZSix 01-13-2005 08:21 PM

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i wouldnt primer the whole car. just the spots that your fixing. sand that bitch down when your ready to start painting then use sealer. seal the whole car. lay down the base color evenly before u get spots on your car thats darker than another part. make sure you have a good gun and have it set at the proper psi. some guns workin pressure is like 40psi. if it drops lower than that its gonna start gettin grainy so check your pressure often. let it sit for 15 mins between coats. make sure theres no dust. dust is your worst enemy. dont lay your clear on heavy at first. just cover it dont try to go over it again on the same pass. just go around the car. then lay another coat and so on. its pretty easy IMO but body work is a bitch.

fsufan814 01-13-2005 08:30 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 

Originally Posted by BoosTedZSix
its pretty easy IMO but body work is a bitch.

this is the most important and truest thing that you cannot forget when considering paint work

CRXMatt 01-13-2005 09:00 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 
im a kick ass body man.. my ---- was all rusted out so riveted in new metal and used a ---- pot of fiberglass filler n' bondo.. the ---- looks like new

ZC4ME 01-13-2005 09:06 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 

Originally Posted by CRXMatt

Originally Posted by kvh
How many CFM's is your compressor at the proper PSI.

???

Ummm yea, good luck.

MikeJ-2009 01-13-2005 09:48 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 
Other than what I already posted that I need to research, I also have more questions.

My factory paint is in ok condition. Of course I have to fill a couple small dents, but should I primer even if the factory paint is in ok shape? And what grit should I use on the factory paint to get it to where the primer will stick well?

I'm pretty sure I've heard of people just spraying over the original paint, but if not, how rough does it need to be?


Holly 01-13-2005 09:59 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 
http://www.pbase.com/verdugo/image/36492498


Sorry to say I sanded this down and painted her myself. Took about an hour, 3 cans of paint.

CRXMatt 01-13-2005 10:02 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 

Originally Posted by Holly
http://www.pbase.com/verdugo/image/36492498


Sorry to say I sanded this down and painted her myself. Took about an hour, 3 cans of paint.

lol, damn.. nice .. but mines gonna be silver :-[

Holly 01-13-2005 10:13 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 
I care nothing about cosmetics, so I just used primer. But you can sand it down with finer ---- and make it decent looking. Mine was a half ass job cause I got tired and needed to cover up the hood.

fsufan814 01-13-2005 10:18 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 

Originally Posted by Stealthmode
Other than what I already posted that I need to research, I also have more questions.

My factory paint is in ok condition. Of course I have to fill a couple small dents, but should I primer even if the factory paint is in ok shape? And what grit should I use on the factory paint to get it to where the primer will stick well?

I'm pretty sure I've heard of people just spraying over the original paint, but if not, how rough does it need to be?


you dont need to primer except over whatever dents you decide to fill with bondo, you need to primer over the bondo bc it will keep out the moisture, i wouldnt primer the whole car, but as the guy said earlier, a good sealer will need to go on before the paint, not necessarily a whole layer of primer, no shops usually primer over factory paint unless they brought the whole car to bare metal

nothing wrong with spraying over old paint most places do as follows

sand it down with wet sand paper, try let it dry look for missed spots and wet sand again until you get it fine, basically getting most the clear coat off and having it scuffed well (NOTE: if you have it sanded well, the sanded body when wet will look slick as glass it, wont beed or roll of like normal paint) then they spray a sealer and then spray the paint either single stage or base clear if you have the $

anyhow this is what i know, hope i helped some

spoon fed 01-13-2005 10:44 PM

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Homemade paint job! Car, rims and "JDM y0" corners


[img width=500 height=550]http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNjc5NDkwNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg[/img]

[img width=500 height=550]http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNjgxNzI5NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg[/img]

fsufan814 01-13-2005 10:47 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 
those wheels look like some Fugen's

CRXMatt 01-13-2005 10:48 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 
They're fuggen ghetto thats for sure

Mista_Shrpnl 01-13-2005 11:25 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 
One thing almost everyone forgets is that almost all ( at least 9 out of 10 brands Ive used) Automotive paints is a Bake type paint. Meaning it MUST have a flash bake between coats... This isnt just to help speed drying time, but it activates the catalyst and creates a molecular bond with the primer.

As for prep, as FSUFAN said, a decent sealer will suffice, but for me, since im a damn perfectionist, I always use a primer. It makes for a more uniform, deep color...Think Maaco versus a high end paint job.

Take a DA and some 220 grit paper, and spend a good half of a day sanding her down. This is one of the most important steps...take your time. A ---- sanding job will show, no matter what people say.

Always, ALWAYS use a wax/degreaser after you sand to make sure you have a virgin sureface to spray. Youd be surprised what a thumbprint looks like after its been shot.

Another step people tend to jump is a decent strip down...Its alot easier to take off parts then to mask them. Badges, trim, other acc that you dont want painted pop off alot quicker than taking the time to mask.

Lay down 2-3 coats of base coat, allowing a proper cure time in between.When doing this, you want a good coverage per stroke, not like rattle can, where you sweep back and forth for coverage. Dont go too thick on the layer, but enough to cover.

Then comes the clear coat. This is something that if youve never laid down, you might want to find a scrap hood and practice on for a bit. Clear loves to run if your not experienced. When laying down clear, like base, you want a good coverage, but without runs...here lighter is a bit better though. A good clear coat will require 2-3 coats as well, but if ya want a bling-bling super ass glossy coat, more will do the trick.

As for wet sanding, none (in my opinion) is needed untill the very end, then take some time with a 1100 grit, and take just the top fraction of a MM off, to make that shine come through.

As for equipment, Everyone uses something different. I personally use a Sata spray gun. Expensive lil bitch, but worth every penny. Also, you want to use a gravity feed versus a perssure can, but thats mainly to cut down on painter fatigue.

USE A LINE DRYER> END OF STORY. you dont want any water in the lines, and ive never seen a comp that doesnt build moisture. water in paint= bad.

Use 2 regulators...or a digital gun. One reg on the comp, one on the end of the gun. Run the comp side at about 15 psi higher than the gun side, to make sure you wont have a fluxuation in pressure.

As for paint, dont ask...there are soo many companys out there, but I only personally tough Dupont or House of Kolors..good stuff. Just make sure you buy enough to start...

Mix only what you will spray per load..I.e. dont mix up a gallon, and spary in a quart intervals...paint cures once catalyst is added, no matter what.

Always strain your paint, so not to jam up your gun, or lay contaminants in the coats.

Im sure I left something out, so any more Q's just ask.

And yes, I paint cars....

fsufan814 01-13-2005 11:32 PM

Re:I want to see some homemadepaintjobs
 

Originally Posted by Mista_Shrpnl
One thing almost everyone forgets is that almost all ( at least 9 out of 10 brands Ive used) Automotive paints is a Bake type paint. Meaning it MUST have a flash bake between coats... This isnt just to help speed drying time, but it activates the catalyst and creates a molecular bond with the primer.

As for prep, as FSUFAN said, a decent sealer will suffice, but for me, since im a damn perfectionist, I always use a primer. It makes for a more uniform, deep color...Think Maaco versus a high end paint job.

Take a DA and some 220 grit paper, and spend a good half of a day sanding her down. This is one of the most important steps...take your time. A ---- sanding job will show, no matter what people say.

Always, ALWAYS use a wax/degreaser after you sand to make sure you have a virgin sureface to spray. Youd be surprised what a thumbprint looks like after its been shot.

Another step people tend to jump is a decent strip down...Its alot easier to take off parts then to mask them. Badges, trim, other acc that you dont want painted pop off alot quicker than taking the time to mask.

Lay down 2-3 coats of base coat, allowing a proper cure time in between.When doing this, you want a good coverage per stroke, not like rattle can, where you sweep back and forth for coverage. Dont go too thick on the layer, but enough to cover.

Then comes the clear coat. This is something that if youve never laid down, you might want to find a scrap hood and practice on for a bit. Clear loves to run if your not experienced. When laying down clear, like base, you want a good coverage, but without runs...here lighter is a bit better though. A good clear coat will require 2-3 coats as well, but if ya want a bling-bling super ass glossy coat, more will do the trick.

As for wet sanding, none (in my opinion) is needed untill the very end, then take some time with a 1100 grit, and take just the top fraction of a MM off, to make that shine come through.

As for equipment, Everyone uses something different. I personally use a Sata spray gun. Expensive lil bitch, but worth every penny. Also, you want to use a gravity feed versus a perssure can, but thats mainly to cut down on painter fatigue.

USE A LINE DRYER> END OF STORY. you dont want any water in the lines, and ive never seen a comp that doesnt build moisture. water in paint= bad.

Use 2 regulators...or a digital gun. One reg on the comp, one on the end of the gun. Run the comp side at about 15 psi higher than the gun side, to make sure you wont have a fluxuation in pressure.

As for paint, dont ask...there are soo many companys out there, but I only personally tough Dupont or House of Kolors..good stuff. Just make sure you buy enough to start...

Mix only what you will spray per load..I.e. dont mix up a gallon, and spary in a quart intervals...paint cures once catalyst is added, no matter what.

Always strain your paint, so not to jam up your gun, or lay contaminants in the coats.

Im sure I left something out, so any more Q's just ask.

And yes, I paint cars....

nicely done :D

Bizzar 01-13-2005 11:35 PM

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http://img53.exs.cx/img53/3378/steelies20tr.th.jpg

Click for a larger image. Rockin the steelies!! pic is about a year old :) Did it in my garage almost 10 years ago. I have since outgrown the "scallops" but too lazy and scared to do a FULL paint. Used Emeron with no clear and man let me tell you, that ---- doesnt wetsand for nothing!!


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