HUGE CLUTCH TRANNY PROBLEM!! What Could It Be??
 

I think I just found a huge problem in my build and I wanna cry

I pretty much built a motor from scratch, my first ever top to bottom. Its a D16A6 in an 88 Crx Si

Ive got pretty much everything buttoned up and installe din the car, today I was finishing up and I connected the clutch cable to the tranny and tightenned down the plastic nut.

I pulled up on the lever that it attaches to and it goes up without anyforce being needed, just barely have to touch it and the lever raises. I pushed it up hard a few times continuously and you can hear it ting off of something, sounds like the little clutch fingers...............

I jumped in the car and sure enough there was ZERO pedal pressure.

Im actually really sad now cause i thought everything was going great and I find this at the worst possible time.

The clutch is a clutch specialties 6 puck unsprung, cable transmission.

I really need help as to what it could be and what I have to do to fix it. I really dont want to have to pull the motor, my parents would freak and I need the car asap.

Someone Please HELP!

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Wrong forum, fucknut.

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You did put a throw out bearing in there didnt you? Is the cable for your tranny tight enough?

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What creates the tension or force on the cable/pedal? I've only messed with hydro.

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Yeah its a new throwout bearing I put in, I kidna remember in the back of my head when i did it that I remember clicking the 2 tabs in perfect and even moved the lever with the trasnny by itself and it had some pressur,e im lost and dont kno wtf to do

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Is anyone a member on D-series.org? I cant sign up and they seem like a big boards to, can someone make me this thread over there and lin me to it?

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If the clutch and TOB are all proper just tighten your clutch cable. You might just be too loose so your tob isnt even touching your pressure plate.

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I tightenned it all the way to the end of the threads which pulls the lever up, still no pressure on the cable or the pedal when i did this

I dont see a single thing i could have done wrong, I read the manual five times and Mike and everything just bolted toghether like cake

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edit

COULD I BE MISSING THIS BOLT!!
http://prosportcompact.com/images/trans.jpg

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Did you grab the lever on the outside of the tranny and move it up and down and see the tob move or did you just pull on the tob?

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You probably missed something. CAn't be anything to serious if you didn't crack open the tranny case.

I with you on the missing bolt. Or you may hae to take alot of the lash out of the clutch. Is it an aftermarket performance one? Normally that have such a fast engagement that the lever has to be adjusted very far. At least I know mine did.

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its a 6 puck clutch specialties

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if there are no pressure even if u move the fork by hand, it has to be something in between the fork and the input shaft.
take tranny out and check

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OK

SO I just went out to the garage and found a spare d16 tranny I have, I got the bolt you say i need

But when you remove that bolt and push up on the cable lever it just spinsinside the tranny andthe throwout bearing doesnt move, why woud I be hearing a spring type clink when I pul the lever up quickly and let it hit whatever it is hitting, to me it sounds like a noice the little presure fingers would make when hit, but i dunno

I need help!!

theres no pressure when you pull it up by hand, i dont know what im looking for when I drop it, i need help

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Where are you located? You dont have any friends around that can help check it out? I dont know if im understanding your problem correctly, but no pressure in cable clutch would indicate that the bearing isnt contacting the pp. Maybe your bearing lever is broken? and you need that bolt you highlighted in there.

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the bearing isnt installed

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The bearing is there I put it in, it came with the clutch kit

What Im saying is, if the bolt I highlighted was missing, when you pull the cable lever the t/o bearing would not move forward and hit something, so what am I hearing

Someone also mention I could have placed a clutch component on backwards?

I have very little knowledge on this

Thanks guys, keep helpin please

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Can you physically pull the clutch pivot fork all the way up? it should move freely about 1 to 1 1/2 inchs (freeplay) then while pulling up it should stop, at this point you shouldnt be able to pull up any further (this is where the release bearing is touching the PP) this is also where your Clutch cable should be adjusted to. You can try shimming the clutch cable threads by putting ---- under it and giving it a bit more throw, try that and see if you can get any pedal pressure?

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and if you didnt install that bolt your a huge retard, because right after you install the release bearing its pretty obvious you should move the pivot fork back and forth a few times to see if its going back and forth right? well if that bolt wasnt there it wouldnt even pivot back and forth. Why would you take that bolt out anyways?

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Everything was flush though, clutch disk against the flywheel and pressure plate against the clutch disk

Would this cause what im syaing?

Cause Im pretty sure when I installed the throwout bearing with teh tranny out I moved the lever a couple times to make sure it was smooth and I remember it coming out easily

I really dont think its the bolt

What could it be

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maybe your clutch cable is broken in 2 inside somewhere.

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I still wouldnt be able to move this lever so easily would I? Like there is zero resistance on it

ABAZ

I do recall testing out the bearing when i installed it, it definetely moved and easily, i woulda noticed

What else could it be if this bolt is in there?

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Yes, it should have zero resistance on it, about 1 to 1 1/2 inchs of freeplay before you touch the release bearing on the pressure plate. Do what I said, shim the cable, then have someone press the clutch in and out while you watch the throw.

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How much shimming would I need Jeff? Inch?

I honestly dont get what the throwout bearing is doing when im pulling the lever or what its supposed to do, sorry for sounding stupid when i just joined up

Thanks

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Would shimming even do anything since the bottom of the cable is always going to be under the lever?

Kinda lost

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i think he means to shim the upper part of the cable thats connected to the bracket thats bolted to the tranny

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you can shim it in 2 spots...

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/misc/clutchboy.wmv

just for you

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AWESOME VIDEO!

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Thanks for making that vid Jeff

I kinda get how it works now but even watching your vid and looking at how much pressure youre using to even pull it up that inch and a half

I really do mean, its like there is zero resistance when I pull it, but I do feel it hitting that pressure plate I think

---- I dunno

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so much confusion over a simple task, if you would have done it with a manuel or if u had one and read it right, this wouldnt be a problem. do you mean like no play as in the peddle hits the ------- floor if you barley touch it or is there just a light force pushing back? sure u even got the right clutch?

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I havent done all the adjusting that Jeff told me to or any shims, im leaving my girl right now and driving to check

but without adjusting, the pedal just kinda fell to the floor

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I think you need to get someone to help you do it, have someone press the cable while you watch the amount of throw. This can be a very simple task, however I've had 1 clutch job do something very similar to me in the past.

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That video owns and The Jago comment is classic!

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Just went to my car and I lied, there is resistance, felt like nothing before, but it feels the same as my spare tranny i have here does

I guess I'll be making a shim out of a bumpstop jlwelded to the mount or something to raise it up

I hope thats all it is

Thanks again guys, seriously, thank you

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LOL the video should be sticked to the media section

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5 Bucks says you put the clutch disk in backwords and the fingers on the presure plate arnt out far enough :8

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the disk shouldnt bolt up if its installed backwards would it? i know on my xtd u cannot install it backwards. make sure the black plastic nut is on the top of the bracket for the tranny, and then tightened u could have it routed wrong, its somthing simple,its the simple ---- that always geta ya. hope u get it figured out.

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the disk will bolt down if installed backwards. but it sticks out farter and causes the fingers on the presure plate to come in farther than they normaly would. also it will grind the springs down on the presure plate bolt.

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he should honestly know if it was installed backwards then, the reason i said that it cant is because most people would know its not right when theres a gap between the pp and flywheel.

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theres no gap when you bolt it down but the fingers arnt out as far as they should be.