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Old 08-05-2007, 10:13 PM
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Default How to empty your wallet?, Have the dumb *** at Pina Motorsports tune your car!!

Well after sitting in my yard for 2 months we finaly pushed Stickmans 97 gsx into the garage to swap out the Blown motor. Here is the carnage!!!!

Balence shaft



Oil pan




Swiss Oil pan and block




Front of block




Parts and pices of #3 piston



#3 conecting rod



Who would have guessed that a 4G63 at 22 psi 4800rpms and with a small 16g whoud have done so much, We went back over the logs from the AEM and it have over 3.9 volts of knock. The dude that tuned it said that it had no knock. We looked at the timing and he had it set to 17.5* I dont know mabey it was just time for the motor to go?
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Old 08-05-2007, 10:24 PM
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That looks familiar. Next time I am just gonna have to leave my car street tuned and not take it to the "proffesionals". And no more signing stupid *** waivers that say if the dumbshit tuning my car blows my motor that he is not at fault. I should get a copy of the contract and see if I can find a loophole in it. There has to be a dumbshit tuner clause somewhere in the lawbooks.


Anyone need and dsm block pieces?? I have a few laying around and a custom air cooled block too.
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Old 08-05-2007, 11:06 PM
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If you were using AEM, and logging knock...why the hell didnt you have it retard timing when it read knock?

There are plenty of things that can cause knock, but not using the safety features of an EMS (knock retard, boost cut, etc, rev limiters, etc)...AND if it was knocking that badly, I would guess the driver could hear or notice something and probably should have let off.

Regardless, there are WAY too many things that can cause knock mechanically...how long did it actually run after being tuned? Are we talking 6 minutes or 6 months??
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Old 08-05-2007, 11:37 PM
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^^^ Exactly what I was thinking. If you PAID someone to tune your aem, and they didn't even bother to set up something simple like that, and you failed to even look it over, I vote your friend ftl
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Old 08-05-2007, 11:45 PM
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All of this happened while on te dyno. I had the car hauled back to the house from the shop it was being blown up at. There was oil all over the brand new AWD dyno. I had no part in blowing the engine. I was actually kinda pissed off believe it or not.
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Old 08-06-2007, 12:47 AM
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did the shop try and help out in any way or just say that sucks have a nice day?
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Prolly just "That sucks, can you move your car so we can clean our dyno?"
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Old 08-06-2007, 01:01 AM
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He pretty much said that sucks, you can store your car here for the weekend until it gets towed. He charged me for the tuning that he had accomplished before it blew and the dyno usage and one of his associates gave me a decent price on a flatbed tow. After all was said and done I got bent over and he wasn't even kind enough to use vaseline. From now on I am not going to let anyone else touch the tuning on my car. If i have to I will rent dyno time and do it myself. Of course at a different shop.

On a side note, it did make 243 awhp from 3800rpm to 7000rpm.The run before it blew.
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Not bad.. I think my car's making about 93.
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You got fucked in the ***. I wouldn't have paid him a dime if it blew up, especially if it was pinging and he didn't retard the timing.
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