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J-MAN 10-06-2004 11:21 PM

horsepower estimator program
 
i am taking a proggramming class in college and was bored and wanted to try and get comfortable with using Visual Basic.NET. i remembered a long time ago reading in a magazine a formula on how to estimate horsepower with a given amount of boost so i decided to make a calculator. it turned out pretty good, but i think the numbers are just a rough estimate at the crank.
does anybody know how i can post it up?
here is a screenshot.
http://www.newbieforces.com/files/screenshot2.jpg

sorry sinister i used your avitar ;D

hotrex 10-06-2004 11:26 PM

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looks like your makin negative hp

Honda16hb 10-06-2004 11:27 PM

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wow, that r gay. at least let us click on some ----.

J-MAN 10-06-2004 11:29 PM

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"SCREENSHOT".
i was wondering if anybody knew of a way for me to post it up or host it.
and it's not negative HP that thing in the bottom is Sinisters avitar with the tach

Reddy 10-07-2004 02:04 AM

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that thing has to be horribly inaccurate

MikeJ-2009 10-07-2004 02:07 AM

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Why can't my avatar be in it too? That's racist. 8)

Project CRXtacy 10-07-2004 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealthmode
Why can't my avatar be in it too? That's racist. 8)

tell you what stealth, if you have the formula and what you want in it i will program one for you :)

TechX 10-07-2004 02:53 AM

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You should include the type of turbo an ----, and if its got an IC. But that would be getting waaaay too complex

AgentMurdoc 10-07-2004 02:55 AM

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i like how the red compliments the blue everything alse soooo well :D


hehhee, well upload it alreay, i wanna know how much hp I have with my 0 psi ;)

Reddy 10-07-2004 03:05 AM

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This type of program would NEVER be accurate for soo many reasons its mind boggling. You might as well just include stickers and wheel size when you make that program ::)

Turbo90Accord4DR 10-07-2004 03:09 AM

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turbo size would play a big big role.

J-MAN 10-07-2004 12:32 PM

Re:horsepower estimator program
 
like i said it is a formula for a rough estimate at the crank that i have been using ever since i read it. i just wanted a way that i could use it with out having to break out the calculator everytime. ::)


this place is starting to be more like HT everyday :(

J-MAN 10-07-2004 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealthmode
Why can't my avatar be in it too? That's racist. 8)

i wanted something like the boost guage from johnnyracecar.com but he took it off.

J-MAN 10-07-2004 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AgentMurdoc
i like how the red compliments the blue everything alse soooo well :D

wow, queer eye for the straight guy stopped by my post ;)

TunerToys 10-07-2004 12:41 PM

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Geez guys take it easy! He never made claims of accuracy! He is excited to learn something new, and is sharing the progress with us, which is what HMT is all about!

Send it to me, and I'll host it at www.tunertoys.com and send you the link.

Sales@TunerToys.com

Using .NET, you could also make it a webpage instead of a compiled app...

Craig


J-MAN 10-07-2004 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TunerToys
Geez guys take it easy! He never made claims of accuracy! He is excited to learn something new, and is sharing the progress with us, which is what HMT is all about!

Send it to me, and I'll host it at www.tunertoys.com and send you the link.

Sales@TunerToys.com

Using .NET, you could also make it a webpage instead of a compiled app...

Craig


thanks

dragon 10-07-2004 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbo90Accord4DR
turbo size would play a big big role.


Dr.Boost 10-07-2004 05:45 PM

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Update?
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R-MAK 10-07-2004 07:26 PM

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what he said ^

TekPhobia 10-07-2004 11:00 PM

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Here's the real shizzy. This is an ITR motor. I made it rev out to 12.5 to prove to some newb that removing his rev limiter won't give him more HP.

http://b16crx.com/~tekphobia/itrrevwarn.GIF

http://b16crx.com/~tekphobia/eap1.gif

Wanna add a turbo?

http://b16crx.com/~tekphobia/eap.GIF

The program is accurate to within 2% of dyno figures. Only problem is, you have to know EVERYTHING about your motor >:(

At some point, I'd like to build up profiles...only then will you know if retarding your intake cam adds a few extra ponies!

-Tim

Dr.Boost 10-07-2004 11:10 PM

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Woah! :o What a neat toy! :o
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J-MAN 10-07-2004 11:59 PM

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:o HOLY ----. thats pretty cool but i don't think my class will be getting to anything like that beings this is just an intro class and i don't even like programming, just have to take it as a pre req. :-\

J-MAN 10-08-2004 12:42 AM

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can somebody that has had their car dynoed while boosted post your stock hp and amount of boost so i can compare to see how far off this thing would be?

HMT-Admin 10-08-2004 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffsciv23
can somebody that has had their car dynoed while boosted post your stock hp and amount of boost so i can compare to see how far off this thing would be?

Stock Ls/vtec

175whp / 122tq NA
263whp / 201tq 11psi




MikeJ-2009 10-08-2004 12:55 AM

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Tim, that ---- is cool. I've always wanted a desktop dyno. :'(

J-MAN 10-08-2004 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by AbaZ

Originally Posted by jeffsciv23
can somebody that has had their car dynoed while boosted post your stock hp and amount of boost so i can compare to see how far off this thing would be?

Stock Ls/vtec

175whp / 122tq NA
263whp / 201tq 11psi




i got 305 at the crank and after subtracting about 10 percent to the wheels i got 274 :-\, but like i said it is an estimate. i just figured it would be a good way to stop all the stupid question like "How much hp will i make if i put x amount of boost into x engine".

HMT-Admin 10-08-2004 01:04 AM

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16-17% drivetrain loss is usually on FWD honda's

J-MAN 10-08-2004 01:09 AM

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well then with that i got 256 :-\, i don't think that is too bad for a rough estimate

smithSHO 10-08-2004 01:10 AM

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I want that program tekPhobia! Can u hook me up?
Im guessing 210whp 205wtq n/a

bambooseven 10-08-2004 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffsciv23
i got 305 at the crank and after subtracting about 10 percent to the wheels i got 274 :-\, but like i said it is an estimate. i just figured it would be a good way to stop all the stupid question like "How much hp will i make if i put x amount of boost into x engine".

where did you get crank power from? he gave you whp to start with.

is your equation simply [(HPxBoost)/14.5]+HP? That is insufficient to say the absolute least.

J-MAN 10-08-2004 03:23 PM

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no it's , boost/14.7 +1 x stock hp.

but i guess it doesn't work so i'll use it for myself

robs99si 10-08-2004 03:46 PM

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^^^that formula there gave me 236hp with 135whp on my b16 and 11psi. on the dyno i made 246whp. not a bad formula.

J-MAN 10-08-2004 04:53 PM

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i always thought it was good to use if i wanted to see a ballpark figure

baldur 10-08-2004 05:02 PM

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http://www.centralcoaststangs.com/features/hp_calc.php

baldur 10-08-2004 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AbaZ
16-17% drivetrain loss is usually on FWD honda's

Drivetrain loss is NOT a percentage.

FURACERMAN 10-10-2004 02:09 AM

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I like that chamber shape.

HMT-Admin 10-10-2004 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by baldur

Originally Posted by AbaZ
16-17% drivetrain loss is usually on FWD honda's

Drivetrain loss is NOT a percentage.

Ok what is it.. ?

Dr.Boost 10-10-2004 04:31 AM

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It's a new form of a fraction that cannot be converted into a percentage. It's posesses no true equations or values and cannot be divided into sections, nor can it be multiplied. It's not even a number. It's a scientific formula created to ---- the entire mathematical system up.

Didn't you know that? :-\
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baldur 10-10-2004 07:58 AM

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The drivetrain loss doesn't linearly increase when you increase the power of the motor. Hence it should never been stated as a percentage, as that percentage will only be true at one point in the graph.
And drivetrain loss is generally overestimated. If you were losing 17% of the power in the drivetrain on a 300hp car that'd be about 50hp just boiling the oil in your transmission.

Dr.Boost 10-10-2004 09:12 AM

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Well, if your motor is making 175hp peak and you throw down 145whp peak on the chassis dyno, then I would call that a 17% drive train loss in power. WTF else would you call it? He wasn't talking about drivetrain loss at 1500rpm or drivetrain loss at half throttle. :P
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