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Instigator_CRX87 01-17-2004 03:21 AM

Honda Accord 2006 Prototype... FACTORY TURBO
 
jacked form honda swap...

http://www.hondaswap.com/gallery/ima...7665c55744.jpg


Spec : Left Hand drive
- Sedan
- 2.2 Dohc Turbo (HPT)
- 260 hp / 33 kg torque
- 6 pot Brembo / 18" wheels



Read that up there again. 2.2 Dohc Turbo. From the factory.

Once more.

2.2 Dohc Turbo. From the factory.



also official honda announcement...

http://world.honda.com/news/2004/4040107.html

B16Drag 01-17-2004 03:23 AM

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I'm definately impressed! =)

OnYx 01-17-2004 04:00 AM

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does the woman come with it? lol any word on the size of the turbo? I would buy one regardless of the woman lol

nigel 01-17-2004 04:43 AM

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thats sick as ---- man! turbo is GOOOOODDDD!!!! :D

bambooseven 01-17-2004 05:36 AM

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it's diesle as far as i've heard

projekteg 01-17-2004 07:37 AM

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damn, the numbers could be a little higher :P but, if it's deisel, that's impressive ;D and yes, i would ---- that bitch in the ass ;D

Semnos 01-17-2004 08:35 AM

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That's the Euro model accord....it's not for tha USDM market.
I've seen a few driving here already and yes the turboed version is diesel. Euro loves those diesek engines.
It looked really nice though, it seems smaller then the regular accord.It came out last year 2003. I should have snapped a pic of it, but didn't have my digicam with me.

bambooseven 01-17-2004 08:41 AM

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pretty much a TSX with a turbo diesel motor in it instead of their K24. oh well, we wont see it anyway.

stretch-d 01-17-2004 08:48 AM

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Diesel?......Diesel?......Hmmm (frowns with question mark above head)

projekteg 01-17-2004 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by stretch-d
Diesel?......Diesel?......Hmmm (frowns with question mark above head)

40+ mpg :-\ ;)

d16forlife 01-17-2004 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by onyx
does the woman come with it?

She better!someone has to open my door 8)

BigJ 01-17-2004 08:48 PM

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It's diesel, and IT WON'T COME TO THE AMERICA'S. Made for europe, we can thank our parents for driving shitty ass buicks.

imadouche 01-18-2004 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BigJ
It's diesel, and IT WON'T COME TO THE AMERICA'S. Made for europe, we can thank our parents for driving shitty ass buicks.

I couldnt give two shits less if they bring it to the u.s. Its a ------- diesel they can keep that ----

tranceminister 01-18-2004 09:28 AM

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Nice car. Sounds like Honda is starting to catch on with this turbocharger stuff you crazy bastards at HMT are always talking about. ;) Heh, speaking of that model, When I was in high school and we'd go to car shows, I'd be that scumbag alway's hitting on the model's and asking them if they come w/ the car. Asking them if I can try out the back seat w/ me. Haha, it seemed like some were impressed to hear that coming from a 17 yr. old little ----. :D

Chris Harris 01-18-2004 12:18 PM

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That would be a nice daily driver!

hackish 01-18-2004 02:56 PM

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It's unlikely that honda will sell a turbo gasoline engine. It's very much against their corporate direction as they've so heavilly invested in high revving NA motors.

There is also nothing specifically wrong with the motors they're producing - they are making good peak hp numbers and the K series produces some respectable torque numbers (for honda). Their engines are also clean, efficient and reliable.

Stop dreaming.

-Michael

Honda16hb 01-18-2004 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by hackish

Stop dreaming.

-Michael

did you know the moto of Honda is "the power of dreams"? did you know some of the eariler motorcycles were called the dream? ---- man, we've got turbo dreams, can't we keep them?

dropgear 01-19-2004 02:44 PM

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Apparently Honda and GM swapped some engines. The 2004 Saturn Vue V6 has a peppy Honda engine, and in turn Honda is using Isuzu/GM turbo diesels as a model for their euro Accord engines.

stretch-d 01-19-2004 03:40 PM

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Market trends and sales determine what gets produced in most cases.

I don't believe that it's impossible to think that Honda would produce a turbo vehicle. In fact...What's this thread about?

A factory turbo Honda.

dragon 01-19-2004 04:24 PM

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Its hard to determine if honda will invest in turbocharged vehicles. The point of honda was to produce economy cars. Building a turbo could defeat that. They aren't loosing sales so they dont really need to change anything to keep the sales up. However, alot of mistakes have been happing with honda, (like that gay as truck we seen on here or the new si) which could stir the die heart fans away. So they might produce boosted engines. :)

stretch-d 01-19-2004 05:34 PM

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I belive that Honda will always do well, turbo cars or not.

But I'm sure that a good portion of those people who are buying EVO's & WRX's would have bought a turbo Civic or RSX if Honda was producing them.

I would say that equates to a loss of potential sales.

If Honda introduces a turbo sport compact with a gas engine (in the U.S.), it will "boost" already good sales figures.

No pun intended.

dragon 01-19-2004 07:03 PM

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well honda makes awesome technology of engines and i bet some people can agree with me of that. The s2000 is only a 4 banger and it exceeds most of the v6 engines and matches v8 here in the domestic market. I bet if they want the can produce even greater amount of horespower engines if they really wanted to so there is no need for a turbo charged car

stretch-d 01-19-2004 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragon
well honda makes awesome technology of engines and i bet some people can agree with me of that. The s2000 is only a 4 banger and it exceeds most of the v6 engines and matches v8 here in the domestic market. I bet if they want the can produce even greater amount of horespower engines if they really wanted to so there is no need for a turbo charged car

Did you say "no need for a turbocharged car"?

I agree that Honda makes some of the best engines around, but they're already making around 100 hp per liter.

You can get more reliable power out of them through refinements in technology, but mostly through displacement increase. They could just keep putting in larger engines, who knows.

People just like turbos though. You know...The way it feels when boost comes on.

I don't know what's parked in your driveway but you're here on this site for a reason...Same reason as the rest of us.

TURBOS.


dragon 01-19-2004 07:45 PM

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wow. I've seemed to offended you much stretch-d. I didn't ment in any way that I dont like turbo cars. I said they didn't need to turbo it to make it faster. With that in mind I WOULD STILL TURBO THE CAR just i would like the car to have hight stock horsepower. Maybe i wasn't really clear about what i ment but you were unclear of thinking i didn't like turbo cars.

BigJ 01-19-2004 08:40 PM

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Honda did release a turbo accord in japan in the early 90's it was gas powered and it was a flop, it was called the SIR-T or something to that extent.

stretch-d 01-19-2004 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragon
wow. I've seemed to offended you much stretch-d. I didn't ment in any way that I dont like turbo cars. I said they didn't need to turbo it to make it faster. With that in mind I WOULD STILL TURBO THE CAR just i would like the car to have hight stock horsepower. Maybe i wasn't really clear about what i ment but you were unclear of thinking i didn't like turbo cars.

Dragon, We're cool man. We're just talking.

I know you like turbo cars, I know this because you're on this site.

I love Honda/ Acura & it sounds like you do also. I understood that perfectly well from your previous statements.

Love the avitar btw...

stretch-d 01-19-2004 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BigJ
Honda did release a turbo accord in japan in the early 90's it was gas powered and it was a flop, it was called the SIR-T or something to that extent.

Interesting piece of info.

That was Japan & then. I'm talking about the U.S. & now.

The U.S. market is ripe for a turbo Honda/Acura...Don't you think?

That is if they pay attention to what's going on in the aftermarket.

dragon 01-19-2004 11:45 PM

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hell yeah were cool ...
i agree with you stetch-d. Honda/acura is ripe for the u.s. market. But i dont think they really care about the aftermaket really.. :-\

Thanks on the comment on my avitar. Its the fhm girl of the year vida guerra. :)

stretch-d 01-19-2004 11:50 PM

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Dragon, If you want people to read what you're writing...You need to change the avitar.

I'm not serious. Leave it...and post more often.

PoorMansPorsche 01-20-2004 12:21 AM

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diesels are hot.. hookup a tight little propane injection kit.. hell yeah..

-CF

dragon 01-20-2004 12:22 AM

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LMAO i will ;D

stretch-d 01-20-2004 12:24 AM

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That works similar to nitrous right?...but for a Diesel.

I heard that somewhere. Is that correct?

hackish 01-20-2004 02:25 PM

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While you guys are correct that the current market is ripe for turbo cars, carmakers can't exactly wake up one day and decide to go into production with a turbo version of one of their motors.

While we can go out and purchase a turbo, hack up some management and go for a spin, a carmaker has a long and expensive journey to do the same.

Their engineers need to spend time with the design, depending on the parts for replacement spent a lot of R&D as well as failure analysis to find the best tradeoff between longevity and cost.

Suppose they were turboing a D16. First they'd want to find a target output... suppose it's 180bhp.

They would need to replace ---- so they last. For example rods, pistons and clutch as a minimum. Then which turbo are they going to use? Find one that fits into their budget, design a manifold and downpipe.

Build a prototype or 10. Upgrade the fuel system, engine management and possibly the exhaust. Finally drop this new prototype powerplant into the car... Drop a few million on tuning and engine management to develop the proper engine management and emissions.

Also the car would probably need to have upgraded brakes and suspension - it's a package deal and the suspension & brakes have to be matched to the performance.

Once they've finally settled on all of the above then they've got to get it past the feds of each target market. Any real changes would require crash tests and fuel economy / emissions etc. This is very long and complicated as well as expensive - look at the fact it took mitsu like 2.5 years to get the evo to pass the tests...

The time to market for what seems to be a small change is large. The costs are huge. Then how assured are they that they can sell a pile? Will the demographic interested in the turbo cars be able to afford them???

Once it goes to market will the market still be there? They'd be fighting already established players, Mazda, subaru, mitsubishi even dodge. All of whom have piles of past experience in production turbo engines.

While I think it would be cool I don't think it's realistic. I don't know that it affects us that much anyway since we're all into or dreaming of adding turbo to our existing rides.

-Michael

88crxSi 01-20-2004 03:07 PM

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Honda Tuning did an article on the Accord Turbo Diesel in Nov '03.

2.2l, called the Euro Accord i-CDTi. 138hp @ 4,000rpm and 250ft-lb @ 2,000rpm.

NOT EVER for sale in North America.

and no, propane isn't like NOS. its the opposite. it adds fuel to the engine. You can n2o AND propane on a diesel. I saw a show called Trucks do that. a Duratec GMC Diesel was like. 180hp. he got it to 427 w/ propane and NOS.

davcivic 01-20-2004 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by stretch-d
But I'm sure that a good portion of those people who are buying EVO's & WRX's would have bought a turbo Civic or RSX

I'm one of those. Honda fan for years, but I needed something with more balls, and I wanted a factory Turbo to just upgrade from there. That's Why I bought my WRX. If Honda had something similar, power and price, 227hp/18000, I would've gone Honda.

dragon 01-20-2004 03:35 PM

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thats all very true but everyone who has turbo their cars has gone through that. Mazda, mitsu, nissian all had to go through that process and they have succeed. It will take a long process because they have to make sure they do it right. I can wait 5 years or so to see a turbo honda im only 21. We just thought it would be cool thats all :) And it not like honda doesnt want to do it and im sure they probably have the funds to accomplish this with their numbers in sales

stretch-d 01-20-2004 04:08 PM

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Hey Hackish, I'm sure Honda has all that figured out already.

Corporate business is like war...You plan for all situations.

Honda is very aware of how to build a turbo car within all the criteria that you've mentioned. One of Honda's biggest sales points is that they build low emission vehicles. The turbo vehicles that they sell overseas would most likely pass even California's laws.

...And crx88si...That's the show that I saw about the propane and Diesels. Thanks for the reply.


91esibtuned 01-20-2004 04:18 PM

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it is a very nice car

stretch-d 01-20-2004 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by davcivic

Originally Posted by stretch-d
But I'm sure that a good portion of those people who are buying EVO's & WRX's would have bought a turbo Civic or RSX

I'm one of those. Honda fan for years, but I needed something with more balls, and I wanted a factory Turbo to just upgrade from there. That's Why I bought my WRX. If Honda had something similar, power and price, 227hp/18000, I would've gone Honda.

Thank you also for the reply Davcivic.

warren_teg 01-22-2004 11:47 AM

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i been looking for more pictures of that accord. where can i find more.


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