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Yeah so renting storage sucks the cock. We decided to build our own shed. Keep in mind ive never swung a hammer in my life. So here we go...
Found some pallets. If they are strong enough to hold a fridge, surely they would work as a floor for th shed? https://i256.photobucket.com/albums/...hed/floor4.jpg https://i256.photobucket.com/albums/...hed/floor3.jpg This one was a bit warped... https://i256.photobucket.com/albums/...hed/floor2.jpg I am short. Wes is tall. https://i256.photobucket.com/albums/...hed/floor1.jpg https://i256.photobucket.com/albums/...hed/floor5.jpg Un-warping the pallets. https://i256.photobucket.com/albums/...aightening.jpg Laying out some moisture barrier plastic. https://i256.photobucket.com/albums/...andaligned.jpg Joseph started the front and rear wall frames today. https://i256.photobucket.com/albums/.../backwall2.jpg https://i256.photobucket.com/albums/...d/backwall.jpg Yeah its not perfect. Im just gonna store ---- in it so who gives a ----. |
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Thats cool :D
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Is this the shed you were telling me about last night, or the night before or whenever the ---- it was? Looks tits, good progress. I still see snow on the ground, props for you guys getting off your asses and building that. I was going to go back to working on wetsanding the car today but vag'd out due to the weather. Nice work O0
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shouldve used walminized for the bottom of the frame
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Originally Posted by c0mpl3x
shouldve used walminized for the bottom of the frame
Seriously, though. Hitchhikkr stated he has never swung a hammer at a nail before, and my carpentry experience is three weeks on a framing crew 12 years ago - I quit when we got to the roof and being 15 feet off the ground fucked with me too much, tried to deal for three days until it became apparent I sucked and wouldn't get over it. We wandered around Lowes for ten minutes and didn't see anything rated for exposure to the elements and just grabbed the $8/sheet stuff for the flooring. We'll use the $5/sheet stuff for the walls and roof, since that ---- doesn't get stood on. Bitch. |
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holy ---- we found a subject where JD doesn't know everything. who would have guessed it would be something so simple.
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Originally Posted by sewell94
holy ---- we found a subject where JD doesn't know everything. who would have guess it would be something so simple.
Everyone knows I'm drunk and joking, right? Tom ain't no sippin' tea. |
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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Everyone knows I'm drunk and joking, right? Tom ain't no sippin' tea. |
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Use 3/4" sheathing for the floor, single layer, stager the joints when possible. Use 1/2" OSB to wrap the walls, 5/8 OSB for the roof if you do 16" centers it's safe. They make a coating you can put on OSB to seal it from the weather. It's thick green paint ----. It last for YEARS. Very good ----.
I would seriously redo the foundation though. If anything get some torn bags of concrete at lowes for 80% off retail, some cheap treated 4x4's, and some 2x8's for floor joices and build something that won't fall over. |
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Originally Posted by sewell94
What the hell does sippin' tea mean?? i'm just a midwest loser w/o a clue.
Originally Posted by patsmx5
Use 3/4" sheathing for the floor, single layer, stager the joints when possible.
lol wut? I understood the rest. It's OSB on the flooring, FWIW. |
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---- that, this is an HMT garage... :l
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Jd,
are your veggies done yet?? my roast with potatoes and carrots was bangin. |
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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
J. G. Thirwell is Australian, ask him.
lol wut? I understood the rest. It's OSB on the flooring, FWIW. |
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Originally Posted by bl4cklude
---- that, this is an HMT garage... :l
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Originally Posted by patsmx5
Sheathing is low ply plywood unsanded. Cheap ---- used for structural building. IE-for subflloors and roofing. I'd spring for sheathing on the floor. Moisture will collect under the floor no matter what. OSB's fine for the walls and roof, but not for flooring. I've seen OSB completely fail in 2 years when used as a sub floor. To think we ripped up 3k worth of hardwood flooring and 300 worth of sheathing to change it. :l
My expertise is limited to turbocharged german sports cars. I could spend money on this, but that would take away from the 951 and thats just not acceptable. Any technical talk after this post is deemed irrelevant, since this really isnt anything more than a "im bored lets ---- some ---- up" sort of project. Its in the backyard, and I have the only "house" on the mountain. It isnt going to decrease the the property value one cent. |
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Originally Posted by Hitchhikkr
I have $60 in it so far, with a pair of new gloves. Still not caring right now.
My expertise is limited to turbocharged german sports cars. I could spend money on this, but that would take away from the 951 and thats just not acceptable. Any technical talk after this post is deemed irrelevant, since this really isnt anything more than a "im bored lets ---- some ---- up" sort of project. Its in the backyard, and I have the only "house" on the mountain. It isnt going to decrease the the property value one cent. |
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Originally Posted by patsmx5
Hey, it's not my shed. Just offering a bit of advice if you want it to last. I'm not telling you how to build it to code to satisfy your local building office. Just pointing out a couple things you could change that will make it last longer. When I do something I have to figure my cost and time.
Seriously though, if I have to slap another $35 worth of plywood down in 2 years, I wont be the least bit disheartened. |
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Originally Posted by patsmx5
Hey, it's not my shed. Just offering a bit of advice if you want it to last. I'm not telling you how to build it to code to satisfy your local building office. Just pointing out a couple things you could change that will make it last longer. When I do something I have to figure my cost and time.
I know it's just a shed, but I want to learn the ropes a little better for when I'm a homeowner, so I can do simple straightforward ---- myself. The way I look at it is the walls are framed but not erected yet, if it costs $30 to more to the total package to rip up the current floor and replace it with what you're talking about I'm down. So, sheathing is the only key term i need to know? |
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Originally Posted by Hitchhikkr
Oh im not pissed or anything. Just pointing out why I build $200k+ sports cars and you build $200K+ houses. Apples and oranges.
Seriously though, if I have to slap another $35 worth of plywood down in 2 years, I wont be the least be disheartened. |
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Originally Posted by patsmx5
They throw away damaged stuff sometimes so it might be free or 20c on the dollar.
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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Like he pointed out himself, Hitchhikkr wasn't hostile when making that point. All 2X4, tar paper, shingles, half the nails, window, door, etc, are free/donated. Really just buying plywood and misc stuff, and the current projected budget shouldn't break $100.
I know it's just a shed, but I want to learn the ropes a little better for when I'm a homeowner, so I can do simple straightforward ---- myself. The way I look at it is the walls are framed but not erected yet, if it costs $30 to more to the total package to rip up the current floor and replace it with what you're talking about I'm down. So, sheathing is the only key term i need to know? Foundations usually run 20-25% of the cost of the roughed in structure. As for dirt cheap, there's a couple different ways you could do this. One, get a pair of post hole diggers and make a 4' grid of holes whatever size you want, say 16x16. Buy some 8' 4x4's and cut them in half. Drop them in the hole, dump concrete mix in and spray it with the hose to wet/mix it. pull a string to align the post decent. Let that setup. Then run some 2x8's across the post and perimeter of the structure. Then you got something that will be solid and last through anything. Build off of it. |
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lol my definition of cheap (cheap that lasts)
2x4's (exterior frame) 1x1's (interior frame and roof) bathroom paneling (with the non water proof side painted with a couple layers of exterior paint (5 dollar a gallon homedepot special)) and build it in a corner of your yard so that the fence acts like 2 walls (still lay panelling over them) |
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Cool, I'll check it out tomorrow. As for the foundation, they used to use rock like we have, I think it'll be fine for what it is.
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walminized is blandly known as 'pressure treated lumber', ie things that kill you and repel water/insects
your osb floor, be it 1/2"or double stacked 3/4" will wear out within 1-5 years. pressure treated wood will last 10+ years. better yet, build it from locust edit: since you are not building a house or a supportive structure, you can get away with 24" spacing on the walls, but i would 16" the front door at least |
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Sort of like the non-pressure treated pallets are supposed to rot outright but have lasted over five years in several locations known for their hard Canadian winters?
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I like the pallets
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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Sort of like the non-pressure treated pallets are supposed to rot outright but have lasted over five years in several locations known for their hard Canadian winters?
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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
WHAT THE ---- IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN, -------??
Seriously, though. Hitchhikkr stated he has never swung a hammer at a nail before, and my carpentry experience is three weeks on a framing crew 12 years ago - I quit when we got to the roof and being 15 feet off the ground fucked with me too much, tried to deal for three days until it became apparent I sucked and wouldn't get over it. We wandered around Lowes for ten minutes and didn't see anything rated for exposure to the elements and just grabbed the $8/sheet stuff for the flooring. We'll use the $5/sheet stuff for the walls and roof, since that ---- doesn't get stood on. Bitch. I canat sy mych I was scruad slenaing out guttes |
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most states require permits for buildings over 10x10 which 4 pallets do not make 10x10 footprint.
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Most states don't have the balls to drive to the top of the driveway.
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I wouldn't worry about a permit since he's the homeowner. Did you get a permit when building that fence? You're not gonna run sewer and power to it so I wouldn't sweat it. They don't drive around looking for new structures in violation of code. They work off tips. If nobody questions it, and nobody calls it in, they'll never know the difference. And since you don't live in it, they can't make you tear it down after it's built, even if it's in violation (unless it's on some else's property, or is dangerous to others, etc).
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This is WNC. Your likely to get shot as a gov. official wandering up a steep dirt road, the combined value of all the homes upon which is less than $200K. $140K of that being my house.
Your supposed to have a permit, but nobody cares, and worst case it wont add to the value of the house, which I have no intention of leaving, or selling. |
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Pallets for a floor is ------- ghetto. I love it.
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First to build a pallet-house gets a prize.
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I much approve of this thread.The pallets are classic :D
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I pulled up a lot of pallet stuff on Google. It was 50/50 Toyrme e-expert types explaining why it wouldn't work, and 50/50 happy pallet shed owners. Pretty funny that the HT mentality perpetrates into basically everything.
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Originally Posted by sewell94
holy ---- we found a subject where JD doesn't know everything. who would have guessed it would be something so simple.
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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
I pulled up a lot of pallet stuff on Google. It was 50/50 Toyrme e-expert types explaining why it wouldn't work, and 50/50 happy pallet shed owners. Pretty funny that the HT mentality perpetrates into basically everything.
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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
I pulled up a lot of pallet stuff on Google. It was 50/50 Toyrme e-expert types explaining why it wouldn't work, and 50/50 happy pallet shed owners. Pretty funny that the HT mentality perpetrates into basically everything.
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